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FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »Black people today just like white people today in america are nominally religious we don't actually believe or practice what the bibles says. If more of us did our lives would be better keep in mind i am not saying we would be sinless just that our communities would be better.
It's not just the violence it's the reasons behind the mass violence and the motivations that back it up.
So point out a time when violence didn't exist? When were these holey crackers living Gods law and not segregating and enslaving us? Before then, we weren't even Christian at least on the West coast of Africa. Black folks were more with ? when they were under the wip or when they were poor and impoverished getting kicked in gutters? When was this time when ? his favor for our good acts of worship? You are attaching those results to being godly. Violence with or without a reason is still the lowest common denominator.
Did i not say that ? is not going to stop fighting? It is not the job of ? to stop us from killing each other or enslaving each other It's also not ? 's job to make you rich. What you are complaining about has nothing to do with ? it has to do with human actions. Life is the favor of ?
And why not? ? seems to be the ultimate decision maker. There is no point to it in a perfect world. And it isn't a necessary component to life if one had the ability to choose how life comes about.
It is not ? 's job to stop humans from killing each other because we have the right to make our own decisions and i have already explained what the world is perfectly set up for and it's not to make living easy. The necessary component to making sentient life in the order of magnitude than humans are on is giving it the ability to do the wrong thing. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »Black people today just like white people today in america are nominally religious we don't actually believe or practice what the bibles says. If more of us did our lives would be better keep in mind i am not saying we would be sinless just that our communities would be better.
It's not just the violence it's the reasons behind the mass violence and the motivations that back it up.
So point out a time when violence didn't exist? When were these holey crackers living Gods law and not segregating and enslaving us? Before then, we weren't even Christian at least on the West coast of Africa. Black folks were more with ? when they were under the wip or when they were poor and impoverished getting kicked in gutters? When was this time when ? his favor for our good acts of worship? You are attaching those results to being godly. Violence with or without a reason is still the lowest common denominator.
Did i not say that ? is not going to stop fighting? It is not the job of ? to stop us from killing each other or enslaving each other It's also not ? 's job to make you rich. What you are complaining about has nothing to do with ? it has to do with human actions. Life is the favor of ?
And why not? ? seems to be the ultimate decision maker. There is no point to it in a perfect world. And it isn't a necessary component to life if one had the ability to choose how life comes about.
It is not ? 's job to stop humans from killing each other because we have the right to make our own decisions and i have already explained what the world is perfectly set up for and it's not to make living easy. The necessary component to making sentient life in the order of magnitude than humans are on is giving it the ability to do the wrong thing.
You don't know what ? 's job is and you sound a bit to assured in your ability to know what others say is unknowable. You know "? has a plan, even though we may not yet understand". There is no wrong thing is a perfectly right society. A all powerful being would have the ability to ensure that. Right and wrong is also very subjective from society to society even though things like murder is not accepted unless in the name of your ? . -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »Black people today just like white people today in america are nominally religious we don't actually believe or practice what the bibles says. If more of us did our lives would be better keep in mind i am not saying we would be sinless just that our communities would be better.
It's not just the violence it's the reasons behind the mass violence and the motivations that back it up.
So point out a time when violence didn't exist? When were these holey crackers living Gods law and not segregating and enslaving us? Before then, we weren't even Christian at least on the West coast of Africa. Black folks were more with ? when they were under the wip or when they were poor and impoverished getting kicked in gutters? When was this time when ? his favor for our good acts of worship? You are attaching those results to being godly. Violence with or without a reason is still the lowest common denominator.
Did i not say that ? is not going to stop fighting? It is not the job of ? to stop us from killing each other or enslaving each other It's also not ? 's job to make you rich. What you are complaining about has nothing to do with ? it has to do with human actions. Life is the favor of ?
And why not? ? seems to be the ultimate decision maker. There is no point to it in a perfect world. And it isn't a necessary component to life if one had the ability to choose how life comes about.
It is not ? 's job to stop humans from killing each other because we have the right to make our own decisions and i have already explained what the world is perfectly set up for and it's not to make living easy. The necessary component to making sentient life in the order of magnitude than humans are on is giving it the ability to do the wrong thing.
You don't know what ? 's job is and you sound a bit to assured in your ability to know what others say is unknowable. You know "? has a plan, even though we may not yet understand". There is no wrong thing is a perfectly right society. A all powerful being would have the ability to ensure that. Right and wrong is also very subjective from society to society even though things like murder is not accepted unless in the name of your ? .
yeah i do it's detailed in the bible. I don't know the details but i know his attributes and what his promises are. Right or wrong is not subjectlve to ? and those who believe in him, he details how to tell right from wrong in the bible.
Human society is our creation and it is not perfect because we choose not to be perfect, we chose to make it imperfect in EDEN and we choose not to make it so everyday by not following the teaching of the word of ? by not loving each other.
but the world systems themselves meaning nature is perfect for it's purpose. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »Black people today just like white people today in america are nominally religious we don't actually believe or practice what the bibles says. If more of us did our lives would be better keep in mind i am not saying we would be sinless just that our communities would be better.
It's not just the violence it's the reasons behind the mass violence and the motivations that back it up.
So point out a time when violence didn't exist? When were these holey crackers living Gods law and not segregating and enslaving us? Before then, we weren't even Christian at least on the West coast of Africa. Black folks were more with ? when they were under the wip or when they were poor and impoverished getting kicked in gutters? When was this time when ? his favor for our good acts of worship? You are attaching those results to being godly. Violence with or without a reason is still the lowest common denominator.
Did i not say that ? is not going to stop fighting? It is not the job of ? to stop us from killing each other or enslaving each other It's also not ? 's job to make you rich. What you are complaining about has nothing to do with ? it has to do with human actions. Life is the favor of ?
And why not? ? seems to be the ultimate decision maker. There is no point to it in a perfect world. And it isn't a necessary component to life if one had the ability to choose how life comes about.
It is not ? 's job to stop humans from killing each other because we have the right to make our own decisions and i have already explained what the world is perfectly set up for and it's not to make living easy. The necessary component to making sentient life in the order of magnitude than humans are on is giving it the ability to do the wrong thing.
You don't know what ? 's job is and you sound a bit to assured in your ability to know what others say is unknowable. You know "? has a plan, even though we may not yet understand". There is no wrong thing is a perfectly right society. A all powerful being would have the ability to ensure that. Right and wrong is also very subjective from society to society even though things like murder is not accepted unless in the name of your ? .
yeah i do it's detailed in the bible. I don't know the details but i know his attributes and what his promises are. Right or wrong is not subjectlve to ? and those who believe in him, he details how to tell right from wrong in the bible.
Human society is our creation and it is not perfect because we choose not to be perfect, we chose to make it imperfect in EDEN and we choose not to make it so everyday by not following the teaching of the word of ? by not loving each other.
but the world systems themselves meaning nature is perfect for it's purpose.
Oh you talking about those words that some earthlings wrote? We don't choose the actions of nature and it's affect on us. My ideas are based in reality and i don't need to pull quotes from books to observe my surroundings. I don't know this Eden to have ever existed so that's all a cool story bro. I guess nature only applies when we aren't talking about fantasy. Nature is hardly perfect and the extinction of habitats on planets like mars proves this. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
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FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
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FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »Black people today just like white people today in america are nominally religious we don't actually believe or practice what the bibles says. If more of us did our lives would be better keep in mind i am not saying we would be sinless just that our communities would be better.
It's not just the violence it's the reasons behind the mass violence and the motivations that back it up.
So point out a time when violence didn't exist? When were these holey crackers living Gods law and not segregating and enslaving us? Before then, we weren't even Christian at least on the West coast of Africa. Black folks were more with ? when they were under the wip or when they were poor and impoverished getting kicked in gutters? When was this time when ? his favor for our good acts of worship? You are attaching those results to being godly. Violence with or without a reason is still the lowest common denominator.
Did i not say that ? is not going to stop fighting? It is not the job of ? to stop us from killing each other or enslaving each other It's also not ? 's job to make you rich. What you are complaining about has nothing to do with ? it has to do with human actions. Life is the favor of ?
And why not? ? seems to be the ultimate decision maker. There is no point to it in a perfect world. And it isn't a necessary component to life if one had the ability to choose how life comes about.
It is not ? 's job to stop humans from killing each other because we have the right to make our own decisions and i have already explained what the world is perfectly set up for and it's not to make living easy. The necessary component to making sentient life in the order of magnitude than humans are on is giving it the ability to do the wrong thing.
You don't know what ? 's job is and you sound a bit to assured in your ability to know what others say is unknowable. You know "? has a plan, even though we may not yet understand". There is no wrong thing is a perfectly right society. A all powerful being would have the ability to ensure that. Right and wrong is also very subjective from society to society even though things like murder is not accepted unless in the name of your ? .
yeah i do it's detailed in the bible. I don't know the details but i know his attributes and what his promises are. Right or wrong is not subjectlve to ? and those who believe in him, he details how to tell right from wrong in the bible.
Human society is our creation and it is not perfect because we choose not to be perfect, we chose to make it imperfect in EDEN and we choose not to make it so everyday by not following the teaching of the word of ? by not loving each other.
but the world systems themselves meaning nature is perfect for it's purpose.
Oh you talking about those words that some earthlings wrote? We don't choose the actions of nature and it's affect on us. My ideas are based in reality and i don't need to pull quotes from books to observe my surroundings. I don't know this Eden to have ever existed so that's all a cool story bro. I guess nature only applies when we aren't talking about fantasy. Nature is hardly perfect and the extinction of habitats on planets like mars proves this.
Nature is perfect for what it's for, just because it does not conform to what your idea of perfection is does not mean something is wrong with it. When did i say we choose the actions of nature??? Never. EDEN represents a state of humanity that is without flaw spiritually, today we are flawed we don't do what we were made for
Nature however does exactly what if should do -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding.other than what you invent yourselves -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding.other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people? -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here.
We talking morals, ethics, or your egotistic view of your knowledge of fantasy? Many Christians would frown upon your behavior. We having a discussion, nobody is giving you ? to take. Get out your feelings. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here.
We talking morals, ethics, or your egotistic view of your knowledge of fantasy? Many Christians would frown upon your behavior. We having a discussion, nobody is giving you ? to take. Get out your feelings.
All over this thread people are disrespecting christianity but you atheist cry like girls when a christian becomes a little harsh on you. And accuse us of " faking the funk". That was a disrespect to me right there. Now we are talking about ethics because you had no response to what I was telling you in the first place so you changed the subject. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here.
We talking morals, ethics, or your egotistic view of your knowledge of fantasy? Many Christians would frown upon your behavior. We having a discussion, nobody is giving you ? to take. Get out your feelings.
All over this thread people are disrespecting christianity but you atheist cry like girls when a christian becomes a little harsh on you. And accuse us of " faking the funk". That was a disrespect to me right there. Now we are talking about ethics because you had no response to what I was telling you in the first place so you changed the subject.
I had plenty of responses, you didn't agree. Case closed. You telling people they have no ethics is no form of disrespect in your opinion right? This is what this convo is about and i pointed out your non moral behavior. Go ahead with your ? man. This convo is over. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here.
We talking morals, ethics, or your egotistic view of your knowledge of fantasy? Many Christians would frown upon your behavior. We having a discussion, nobody is giving you ? to take. Get out your feelings.
All over this thread people are disrespecting christianity but you atheist cry like girls when a christian becomes a little harsh on you. And accuse us of " faking the funk". That was a disrespect to me right there. Now we are talking about ethics because you had no response to what I was telling you in the first place so you changed the subject.
I had plenty of responses, you didn't agree. Case closed. You telling people they have no ethics is no form of disrespect in your opinion right? This is what this convo is about and i pointed out your non moral behavior. Go ahead with your ? man. This convo is over.
Read carefully I said that you have no groundings for your ethics other than what you make up. Stop being a liar or maybe you just don't have proper reading skills. Nothing is immoral about defending yourself -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here.
We talking morals, ethics, or your egotistic view of your knowledge of fantasy? Many Christians would frown upon your behavior. We having a discussion, nobody is giving you ? to take. Get out your feelings.
All over this thread people are disrespecting christianity but you atheist cry like girls when a christian becomes a little harsh on you. And accuse us of " faking the funk". That was a disrespect to me right there. Now we are talking about ethics because you had no response to what I was telling you in the first place so you changed the subject.
I had plenty of responses, you didn't agree. Case closed. You telling people they have no ethics is no form of disrespect in your opinion right? This is what this convo is about and i pointed out your non moral behavior. Go ahead with your ? man. This convo is over.
Read carefully I said that you have no groundings for your ethics other than what you make up. Stop being a liar or maybe you just don't have proper reading skills. Nothing is immoral about defending yourself
Sort of like the made up fantasies in your book written by men. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »anyone who says twerking is equal to african dance is ignorant if african culture.
Bro, the whole point of shaking your ass even in African dance is for attention. It was mainly to for mating and sexual expression. What's the difference? It's on camera now? They were ? popping for the Gods back then?
@ THE BOLDED No it WAS NOT.
Elaborate.
Twerking is done for the express purpose of female self exposure, african dance in the vast majority of african nation/tribes was about the community the dance helped frame and encompassed the society. Twerking does none of that.
So African females letting they ? out isn't self exposure? People have twerk circles now. It's a very social event these days. Regardless, our social structure is far more elaborate now and twerking hasn't done much to eliminate our potential as a society or offend thy lord.. I suppose whining ? up Jamaica right? And yes, ? popping does find origin in matting rituals. Btw, i wasn't speaking on all forms of African dance. You seem to be comparing one form of dance called twerking to all forms of African dance. The video i posted as very specific.
No it's not, and i did not mean simple body exposure i meant personal sexual advertisment, african dance is not about that and in fact dancing for the reason girls twerk now was considered immoral. dance was a representation of a people's soul twerking is the dance equivalent of porn
Nothing is social about twerk circles in africa the whole community mothers, grandmothers and little kids were focused on the dance. I am not saying that dancing ? up society i am saying that the society is ? up and the dancing is a reflection of that.
So does whining in Jamaica show that your society is ? up? Are girls who twerk going to have sex right away? Like i said, you are comparing all of African dance to only twerking. Rather unfair. You sound like those Sudo Afrocentrics that go to African dance class with no respect for different dances for different rigions and their varying purposes. Once again shaking the buttox shows you are ready to grind which is a human condition to having babies. It's only natural and has existed well before Luke and his tag team or wining. It doesn't even guarantee that a women is sexually active.
I guess the ignorance is spreading.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz1OUXrDpq0
I did not compare african dance to twerking you did you brought it up not me? I just tried to explain the difference between the two. Them having sex right after or not is not the point i am trying to show you. What i am sating about african dance goes for pretty much ALL AFRICAN SOCIETIES. Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker
And by the way passa passa is the worse thing to happen to jamaica since hurricane ivan
I mentioned a portion of African dance which was consistent with shaking the buttox, not all African dance. The video i posted indicated that. My argument hasn't changed. I suppose you would be good with women wearing veils also. You sound like an orthodox extremist. Wining in your country was around well before passa passa.
If you are talking about mapouka what you have to understand in that the mapouka of today is not what it was in precolonial times.
PASSA PASSA IS NOTHING LIKE THE DANCEHALL OF THE PAST I am not no ? extremist but vulgarity is vulgarity i would not expect an atheist to understand that because you don't have any standards of behavior.
I'm talking wining which is grinding your ? on a mans ? . How different can it be? I don't run around society naked, steal from people or force people to believe as i do, so i guess there is some sort of standard there. I also don't interrupt people on the street and convince them that they are sinners and yell at them for believing.
The dancing that surrounds passa passa is not just whining @ the bolded i don't do any of that nor do most christians.
The point is that wining is a highly sexualized dance. Christians have a history of forcing their religion on others and yelling on street corners.
Passa passa dancing goes beyond a highly sexualized dance, i don't have a problem with sexual dancing but all things have an order of magnitude and that ? that goes on today in dancehall is not dancing it's animal behavior.
and christians have a history of doing many things good and bad things i am not going to put either of them on me personally. Individual christians are not responsible for the good or the bad things christians have done in the past
So i guess we can stop concluding that atheist have no ethical grounding simply for being atheist right?
No we can conclude that atheist are not responsible for the previous actions of atheist But the doctrine of atheism still gives you no objective ethical grounding other than what you invent yourselves
Or is it our understanding of how our actions affect other people?
what??? this last post makes no sense.
It makes plenty of sense. You have displayed a lack of respect for others and a very non Christian attitude for such a person with a moral foundation based on "Christ's words." You faking the funk.
Whoever told you that christians have to take any form of ? lied to you. I am not jesus i am not holy but I know what holiness is and that is one of the differences between me and you. So what ever preconceived notions you have of christians you need to get that whole ? the ? up out of here.
We talking morals, ethics, or your egotistic view of your knowledge of fantasy? Many Christians would frown upon your behavior. We having a discussion, nobody is giving you ? to take. Get out your feelings.
All over this thread people are disrespecting christianity but you atheist cry like girls when a christian becomes a little harsh on you. And accuse us of " faking the funk". That was a disrespect to me right there. Now we are talking about ethics because you had no response to what I was telling you in the first place so you changed the subject.
I had plenty of responses, you didn't agree. Case closed. You telling people they have no ethics is no form of disrespect in your opinion right? This is what this convo is about and i pointed out your non moral behavior. Go ahead with your ? man. This convo is over.
Read carefully I said that you have no groundings for your ethics other than what you make up. Stop being a liar or maybe you just don't have proper reading skills. Nothing is immoral about defending yourself
Sort of like the made up fantasies in your book written by men.
Blah blah blah. You still refuse to admit that you have no real standard of ethics other than what you invent and we believe the bible was written by ? through men So get it right -
There are observable measures of right and wrong in history
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There are observable measures of right and wrong in history
Observable by who?? Man and man makes up his concept of right or wrong as he goes along.
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The grounding of our ethics and morals is based on empathy, compassion, and reason. It provides a much better foundation than scripture.
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Observable by man obviously. The values that are shared by each and every culture are of more merit than those specific to certain regions.
