Better Overall Wrestler Vol. 2: HBK vs Stone Cold Steve Austin
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Stone Cold Steve Austinits....JOHN B wrote: »So Shawn is the consensus goat on the ic? Foh Vince said it himself Austin is the greatest superstar of all time, he "changed" wrestling, was responsible for the greatest era in wwe history, was the biggest reason wwe survived the Monday night wars, and just took it to new levels from its struggletastic years when Shawn was on top
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HBKits....JOHN B wrote: »So Shawn is the consensus goat on the ic? Foh Vince said it himself Austin is the greatest superstar of all time, he "changed" wrestling, was responsible for the greatest era in wwe history, was the biggest reason wwe survived the Monday night wars, and just took it to new levels from its struggletastic years when Shawn was on top
Nah, that's Dwayne
Idk why ppl consider Austin better than Rock, Vince only hypes up Austin over Rock because Vince had more to do with Austin's success, it gives Vince more credibility and it makes him look like a bigger deal. Vince's storyline with Austin was one of the memorable ever. Vince wants people to think Austin because Austin is more associated with Vince than the Rock. Also Vince got salty when Rock left the E for Hollywood and became a bigger success than the E itself... -
iKingGodGivBiz wrote: »
If somethin like this happened on RAW today my t.v. would explode
JR was in real disbelief.
.FOR THE LOVE OF ? WHY!
That felt like the "incident" scene in a ? revenge movie -
HBKiKingGodGivBiz wrote: »iKingGodGivBiz wrote: »kingofkingz wrote: »Hbk was a better overall wrestler. Austin did the same routine over & over
You werent watching
I think he meant in ring wise, after the neck injury Austin kept it brawler style 95% of the time..
Well this isnt the better in ring, but I just watched Bret vs Stone Cold, and Angle vs Stone Cold. Dude def switched it up and was on point in nearly every matched, and while he wasnt as athletic as HBK his in ring psychology was tied, and he was a better ring general. He really controlled that ? , and sold it realistically. He was beyond special.
The problem is ? are far to removed from the Attitude era now to remember how special he was down to the eccentricity, so they based ? on what they generally remember. A whole bunch of cuss words, middle fingers, head bobbing, mud hole stomping, stone cold stunner, blood n skulls, and beer. Austin was way more than people remember.
Hell naw he wasn't hbk ran ? when he was in the ring heel or face....stone cold was that dude at one point but hbk always made something big happen in the ring -
Stone Cold Steve Austinvageneral08 wrote: »iKingGodGivBiz wrote: »iKingGodGivBiz wrote: »kingofkingz wrote: »Hbk was a better overall wrestler. Austin did the same routine over & over
You werent watching
I think he meant in ring wise, after the neck injury Austin kept it brawler style 95% of the time..
Well this isnt the better in ring, but I just watched Bret vs Stone Cold, and Angle vs Stone Cold. Dude def switched it up and was on point in nearly every matched, and while he wasnt as athletic as HBK his in ring psychology was tied, and he was a better ring general. He really controlled that ? , and sold it realistically. He was beyond special.
The problem is ? are far to removed from the Attitude era now to remember how special he was down to the eccentricity, so they based ? on what they generally remember. A whole bunch of cuss words, middle fingers, head bobbing, mud hole stomping, stone cold stunner, blood n skulls, and beer. Austin was way more than people remember.
Hell naw he wasn't hbk ran ? when he was in the ring heel or face....stone cold was that dude at one point but hbk always made something big happen in the ring
Bruh Stone Cold was giving you classic matched or damn near ones every week. Imma start streaming the Attitude era-Ruthless aggression era from 1996-2005 wwe vs wcw/tna vs ecw/roh. Every show a b n c shows. 24/7
Holla at me.
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HBKRock a bigger world wide star than Austin .
Austin is the bigger WWE star.
Austin was # 1 guy
The Rock was the # 2 guy in the AE -
HBKdalyricalbandit wrote: »Rock a bigger world wide star than Austin .
Austin is the bigger WWE star.
Austin was # 1 guy
The Rock was the # 2 guy in the AE
They were both #1, Austin was the guy in 97 to 98 but once 99 hit the E was the Rocks, Austin is still a ? for not wanting to put over Rock until he had no choice in 03..
And Rock was a bigger WWE/F star than Austin, they named all the video games and even the show Smackdown! off of the Rocks catchphrases, Rock was the first to introduce the Xbox to the world and Rock constantly got bigger pops than Austin (from 1999 on) unless a show was in Texas or some redneck state like Alabama, and like you said Rock has always been globally a bigger star while Austin's popularity was mostly in the U.S -
HBKWe all ? with rock but let's not act like Austin wasn't bigger remember Austin was the only one being compared to hogan.
Even if u want to call them 1a & 1b remember 1a comes before 1b -
HBKdont even waste time arguing with that idiot, fam.
we talkin bout wrestling stars n this ? talm bout "but but but rock introduced the xbox!"
like vince n dem aint said scsa is the biggest draw in wwe history.
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HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »dont even waste time arguing with that idiot, fam.
we talkin bout wrestling stars n this ? talm bout "but but but rock introduced the xbox!"
like vince n dem aint said scsa is the biggest draw in wwe history.
not knocking rock but he's a centimeter behind scsa.
Here comes this lame ? tryin to get into discussions that dont have ? to do with him, look up how Rocks name even got brought up in this thread, it came up from Austin being dubbed the "greatest superstar of all time" NOT "wrestling superstar", Rock is the GOAT Superstar to ever step foot in a WWE ring -
Stone Cold Steve AustinWtf happened here? Hahahahahaha yall need to settle this one day
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HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »dont even waste time arguing with that idiot, fam.
we talkin bout wrestling stars n this ? talm bout "but but but rock introduced the xbox!"
like vince n dem aint said scsa is the biggest draw in wwe history.
not knocking rock but he's a centimeter behind scsa.
Here comes this lame ? tryin to get into discussions that dont have ? to do with him, look up how Rocks name even got brought up in this thread, it came up from Austin being dubbed the "greatest superstar of all time" NOT "wrestling superstar", Rock is the GOAT Superstar to ever step foot in a WWE ring
who dubbed him that? Vince right? ok then. and not just because of the austin/mc mahon feud u ? baffoon, the rock had a bunch of interaction with vince as well
with your ? logic, all the random movie stars that have been in a wwe ring arent far behind, with your ? logic, as soon as channing tatum gets in a wwe ring he'll be number 2
austin is the leader of the biggest boom in wrestling, at least when it comes to wwe, rock being in fast and furious doesnt change that. austin THEN rock had wrestling gettin mainstream coverage again. rock was right next to him but never above him.
lol @ you tryna downplay "wrestling superstar" like the rock would be as big w/o wrestling, kys please. -
HBKRock is GOAT Superstar to step foot in the WWE bc he's the biggest Superstar the E helped create you autistic ? , simple as that.. I'm gonna have to make thread on this ? bc there's a ? load of reasons why Rock is the bigger superstar than Austin
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HBKRock is GOAT Superstar to step foot in the WWE bc he's the biggest Superstar the E helped create you autistic ? , simple as that.. I'm gonna have to make thread on this ? bc there's a ? load of reasons why Rock is the bigger superstar than Austin
please dont, u've done enough. -
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HBKdalyricalbandit wrote: »We all ? with rock but let's not act like Austin wasn't bigger remember Austin was the only one being compared to hogan.
Even if u want to call them 1a & 1b remember 1a comes before 1b
Austin wasn't a bigger star than Rock, in my eyes and most of the worlds, sorry if it hurts. Many like to use the Rock was in movies as an excuse but Rock didnt do any movies in 1999 when he was being invited to speak in republic national convention, host snl, appear in music videos, etc. Also the Es most profitable year was 2000 with Austin out and Rock leading the wave. And it's a reason Vince gave Rock the match with Hollywood Hogan at Mania (the biggest stars ever in WWF and WCW) while Austin got Scott Hall, Austin even admits he was ? about that..
Only in the wrestling world is this even considered a debate and Vince will always show favoritism towards Austin bc of the reasons i've said above and it hurts Vinces soul to see a ? walk out on him that he feel he created and become a bigger success... -
HBKthe rock being in movies is no excuse
austin was already popular b4 the vince ? , just like rock was already popular b4 austin went down
austin also had outside endeavors
austin never wanted the match with hogan
austin also walked out on vince
austin drew the most money, had the most merch sales, is the leader or the biggest wrestling boom, not the rock
rock being 1b when 1a went down is why wwe didnt take a huge hit, but at best he was tied with austin, never surpassed, on the same level.
if vince shows favoritism to austin its prolly cuz his company would likely be dead w/o austin
only in the wrestling world is this considered a debate cuz we're ? talkin about wrestling, in the forum about movie stars, or snl hosts, rock wins every time. -
HBKAustin never wanted the match with Hogan
Oh word?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BqlBqtQUdTQ
i see ima have to make a thread on this ? -
HBKi didnt just make this upIt was Hogan's ability to keep himself relevant, and a big-name player, that made fans still want to see him clash with Austin when Hogan returned to World Wrestling Entertainment back in 2002.
To Hogan's credit, he always wanted the match. To Vince McMahon's credit, he tried to make the match happen, but Austin wanted no part of it.
Austin explained plenty of times that he never thought the match would be any good, and didn't want to disappoint the fans with a subpar performance.In part two of his interview on Jim Ross’ new podcast The Ross Report, Austin was in a reflective mood as he discussed a proposed showdown that would undoubtedly have been one of the biggest WrestleMania matches in the history of the business:
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan.
The match that never was in question would have been staged in 2002 at WrestleMania X8. Hogan had just returned to the WWE as part of the villainous nWo faction alongside Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.
And apparently, it wasn't that the WWE brass weren't keen on staging the contest. As reported by WrestlingInc.com, it was the Rattlesnake himself who was opposed to the idea:
Austin said that at the time he was running real hard and was 'hard headed as hell,' and that he wasn't about to do a job for Hogan because the word then was that Hogan wasn't willing to do the favors for anyone. Austin said that while Hogan was open to having a match, he wasn't because he felt that their styles would clash and that the match wouldn't live up to his standards. At that time, Austin could go and he felt that Hogan would have been a step or two behind him, which wasn't acceptable to him. He won't do a high profile match just for a payoff.
lmao @ u thinkin u makin a thread will solve everything, kys. -
HBKI don't think Austin/Hogan would have happened anyway. Neither would wanted to have to do the job for the other.
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HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »i didnt just make this upIt was Hogan's ability to keep himself relevant, and a big-name player, that made fans still want to see him clash with Austin when Hogan returned to World Wrestling Entertainment back in 2002.
To Hogan's credit, he always wanted the match. To Vince McMahon's credit, he tried to make the match happen, but Austin wanted no part of it.
Austin explained plenty of times that he never thought the match would be any good, and didn't want to disappoint the fans with a subpar performance.
lmao @ u thinkin u makin a thread will solve everything, kys.
I post a vid with Austin himself sayin he wanted the Hogan match and you post ? with no source? foh -
HBKAnd it funny how ? love to hate on HHH but Austin also never wanted to put over talent which was the main reason he took his ball and went home...
Not hatin on Austin for it but it's funny how wrestling fans are hypocrites with that ? , they do it with Cena also, if Austin had it his way he would've had a Cena reign before Cena, barring his injuries.. -
HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »i didnt just make this upIt was Hogan's ability to keep himself relevant, and a big-name player, that made fans still want to see him clash with Austin when Hogan returned to World Wrestling Entertainment back in 2002.
To Hogan's credit, he always wanted the match. To Vince McMahon's credit, he tried to make the match happen, but Austin wanted no part of it.
Austin explained plenty of times that he never thought the match would be any good, and didn't want to disappoint the fans with a subpar performance.
lmao @ u thinkin u makin a thread will solve everything, kys.
I post a vid with Austin himself sayin he wanted the Hogan match and you post ? with no source? foh
the post said ross report u nincompoop
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HBKAnd it funny how ? love to hate on HHH but Austin also never wanted to put over talent which was the main reason he took his ball and went home...
Not hatin on Austin for it but it's funny how wrestling fans are hypocrites with that ? , they do it with Cena also, if Austin had it his way he would've had a Cena reign before Cena, barring his injuries..
its funny how short sighted ? boys like u mention this w/o the proper context
austin had no prob puttin over brock under proper circumstances, if ur a wrestling fan and u cant see how ? stupid it would be for two names like scsa and brock to randomly face of in a 6 min match with no damn buildup to it when it could actually b a last match main event, u need to be watching ping pong and gtfoh.
throwing austin/brock on a random raw drawin no money is just as dumb as throwin goldberg/hogan with just a weeks notice on nitro in a not even sold out georgia dome
he went home cuz of creatives constant dumb ? ideas like that and he gets more hate than he should for standing up and not being booked as a fool and not lettin creative do stupid ? when theres money to b made -
HBKhhh gets the hate cuz he was never on the rocks or scsa's level but thought he was and was forced on us as if he was and played the political game for some of his status. also because he had title reigns at time when there were more deserving contenders. shiiddd yall defended kane "greatness" guess who put him over for the title, sure wasnt hhh lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwF5O7uOm18
