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  • Smokey Tha Bandit
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    It is sad to say, but the decline in viewership for ‘Raw’ and ‘Smackdown Live’ may have some devastating effects on the company in 2019…
    Dave Scherer of PWInsider is reporting that in the most recent investors conference call, WWE were asked about the status of their contract negotiations with NBC Universal as the current contract expires in 2019.

    WWE declined to answer, which Scherer explains is a good thing as Vince McMahon previously said when they signed the previous contract that they predict to double viewers and the product isn’t ‘DVRable,’ meaning that consumers won’t record it to watch later and would rather watch live. This obviously isn’t the case, with record low viewership for both ‘Raw‘ and ‘Smackdown Live.’

    The highest offer, it would seem, for WWE during the last round of negotiations was by NBC Universal, but wasn’t as high as what McMahon wanted. Now with lesser viewers, there doesn’t appear to be any way they would accept higher. It is likely, Scherer explains, that NBC Universal may not renew their contract.

    This would leave the company with little options, as the cable industry is cut-throat and changes frequently. Nowadays’, people would rather watch ‘Netflix’ or ‘Hulu Plus’ as opposed to regular cable. Cord cutting is also a huge issue now, which affects the amount WWE receives.

    Scherer explains that there may be two possible solutions he could consider for the company to do, if negotiations don’t go to plan with NBC Universal. They are either to accept a contract for a much lower amount or add ‘Raw’ and ‘Smackdown Live’ to the WWE Network and create a tiered system for it. Both options would significantly decrease the revenue for WWE, with the cable shows being their highest source of revenue.

    “For the sake of comparison the 5/12/14 Raw, which was the show before WWE announced that new deal in 2014, did 4,006,000 overnight viewers. By contrast, the second May Raw of 2017 did overnight 2,696,000 viewers. For you math types, that is a drop of 33% of people watching Raw.”

    It appears the only way this could swing in WWE’s favor is to overhaul their whole system and create new, interesting content in a way to potentially draw in more viewers. Without this, things will seemingly get worse. Scherer leaves the article with some ominous words.

    “To me, the best way to not have to make the decision as to which fork in the road that you have to take is to make sure you never have to make the decision. The company still has time to bail water from the ship to keep it from going down. It would require a commitment to changing up the predictable way that they do business immediately. If they want to avoid coming to that unwanted fork, the time to make changes is now.

    this is what happens when you keep telling your fans "dont like it? dont watch" people gonna say, really? ok lol

    good Im glad. maybe it will light a fire under their ass or maybe they'll just keep making Roman look strong. either way it will be hilarious to watch them crumble.
  • MillzOG
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    It is sad to say, but the decline in viewership for ‘Raw’ and ‘Smackdown Live’ may have some devastating effects on the company in 2019…
    Dave Scherer of PWInsider is reporting that in the most recent investors conference call, WWE were asked about the status of their contract negotiations with NBC Universal as the current contract expires in 2019.

    WWE declined to answer, which Scherer explains is a good thing as Vince McMahon previously said when they signed the previous contract that they predict to double viewers and the product isn’t ‘DVRable,’ meaning that consumers won’t record it to watch later and would rather watch live. This obviously isn’t the case, with record low viewership for both ‘Raw‘ and ‘Smackdown Live.’

    The highest offer, it would seem, for WWE during the last round of negotiations was by NBC Universal, but wasn’t as high as what McMahon wanted. Now with lesser viewers, there doesn’t appear to be any way they would accept higher. It is likely, Scherer explains, that NBC Universal may not renew their contract.

    This would leave the company with little options, as the cable industry is cut-throat and changes frequently. Nowadays’, people would rather watch ‘Netflix’ or ‘Hulu Plus’ as opposed to regular cable. Cord cutting is also a huge issue now, which affects the amount WWE receives.

    Scherer explains that there may be two possible solutions he could consider for the company to do, if negotiations don’t go to plan with NBC Universal. They are either to accept a contract for a much lower amount or add ‘Raw’ and ‘Smackdown Live’ to the WWE Network and create a tiered system for it. Both options would significantly decrease the revenue for WWE, with the cable shows being their highest source of revenue.

    “For the sake of comparison the 5/12/14 Raw, which was the show before WWE announced that new deal in 2014, did 4,006,000 overnight viewers. By contrast, the second May Raw of 2017 did overnight 2,696,000 viewers. For you math types, that is a drop of 33% of people watching Raw.”

    It appears the only way this could swing in WWE’s favor is to overhaul their whole system and create new, interesting content in a way to potentially draw in more viewers. Without this, things will seemingly get worse. Scherer leaves the article with some ominous words.

    “To me, the best way to not have to make the decision as to which fork in the road that you have to take is to make sure you never have to make the decision. The company still has time to bail water from the ship to keep it from going down. It would require a commitment to changing up the predictable way that they do business immediately. If they want to avoid coming to that unwanted fork, the time to make changes is now.

    this is what happens when you keep telling your fans "dont like it? dont watch" people gonna say, really? ok lol

    good Im glad. maybe it will light a fire under their ass or maybe they'll just keep making Roman look strong. either way it will be hilarious to watch them crumble.

    What happens if it crumbles? You won't have anything to hate-watch (besides walking dead)
  • Idiopathic Joker
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  • StoneColdMikey
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  • playboy buddy rose
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    I would eat both of them ?
  • Max.
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    Kori hogan i think
  • TonyDubbz
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    Booker T be having some thick ass chick's come through his promotion bruh those not the only 1s I'll see if I can find them other 1s and post em in the divas thread later
  • TheBoyRo
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    according to Dave Meltzer of F4WOnline.com, Brock Lesnar vs. Samoa Joe is scheduled to be a one-off match and Lesnar is still expected to defend the Universal Title against Braun Strowman at Summerslam. Lesnar is also expected to have title matches with both Seth Rollins and Finn Balor prior to a planned match with Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania. Meltzer noted that market conditions and injuries could change long term plans
  • VIBE
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    Strowman is gonna interfere in that match
  • jono
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Strowman is gonna interfere in that match

    Sadly. Then they gon do a garbage ass 3 way at Summerslam and Brock gon win
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  • jono
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    VIBE wrote: »

    Nah. People just watching different and the calculations are archaic (I'll prove this shortly). Old heads are likely to still have cable, also the average age of ALL sports has gone up to reflect that fact. Old people still have cable and they watch regular TV. Young folk stream, DVR etc and are far more likely to be cord cutters.

    Since I ? with y'all I did some research, which wasn't hard.
    These are top 5 rated programs of 2016 (regularly airing programs which means not thr Super Bowl or any big sports program)
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    These are the top 5 from 2006
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    These are from 2000
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    If you compare the highest rated program of last year to 2000 numbers its not in the top 30.
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Yeah ratings have dropped over the years on everything and I doubt they calculate sling TV or Vue views, that's not to say that if cable was the Same​ n wwe still gave the same ? ratings wouldn't still drop tho
  • genocidecutter
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    How is Big Bang theory so popular?
  • TonyDubbz
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    the WWE plan on opening an amusement park possibly in Orlando--

    WWE appears to be venturing into the world of theme parks as they have been working with a company called "Forrec", an international entertainment design corporation, to create a theme park with WWE branded attractions.

    -- Some of the attractions will include a Moonsault ride, the Rock Bottom, Suplex City as well as Triple H's Sledgehammer. As well, a dark ride titled Road to WrestleMania and a John Cena roller coaster.

    -- Also in the theme park is expected to be additional attractions such as an NXT Bootcamp, Royal Rumble, an Andre the Giant fun house and a House of Horrors, likely to be branded with the Undertaker and other performers.

    -- It is not known whether such a potential theme park would be indoors or outdoors but there has been speculation for a number of years that the company has been looking to get into this field with a possible location in Orlando, Florida.


    Id like to go ? some ? up in the Royal rumble

  • DOPEdweebz
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    How is Big Bang theory so popular?

    Nerd culture.

    Anyways people are streaming Raw Smackdown and PPVs for free for about a decade now. I dont think less people are watching or that much less. Its just harder to count them in as part of the ratings due to the illegality.
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    How is Big Bang theory so popular?

    That show is so stupid
  • jono
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    TonyDubbz wrote: »
    the WWE plan on opening an amusement park possibly in Orlando--

    WWE appears to be venturing into the world of theme parks as they have been working with a company called "Forrec", an international entertainment design corporation, to create a theme park with WWE branded attractions.

    -- Some of the attractions will include a Moonsault ride, the Rock Bottom, Suplex City as well as Triple H's Sledgehammer. As well, a dark ride titled Road to WrestleMania and a John Cena roller coaster.

    -- Also in the theme park is expected to be additional attractions such as an NXT Bootcamp, Royal Rumble, an Andre the Giant fun house and a House of Horrors, likely to be branded with the Undertaker and other performers.

    -- It is not known whether such a potential theme park would be indoors or outdoors but there has been speculation for a number of years that the company has been looking to get into this field with a possible location in Orlando, Florida.


    Id like to go ? some ? up in the Royal rumble

    That ? sounds AMAZING. We already know Vince is ballsy, but to put an amusement park that close to Disney World is insane.

    It would probably be better off somewhere else and they need to put the actual HOF on the grounds.
  • TonyDubbz
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    jono wrote: »
    TonyDubbz wrote: »
    the WWE plan on opening an amusement park possibly in Orlando--

    WWE appears to be venturing into the world of theme parks as they have been working with a company called "Forrec", an international entertainment design corporation, to create a theme park with WWE branded attractions.

    -- Some of the attractions will include a Moonsault ride, the Rock Bottom, Suplex City as well as Triple H's Sledgehammer. As well, a dark ride titled Road to WrestleMania and a John Cena roller coaster.

    -- Also in the theme park is expected to be additional attractions such as an NXT Bootcamp, Royal Rumble, an Andre the Giant fun house and a House of Horrors, likely to be branded with the Undertaker and other performers.

    -- It is not known whether such a potential theme park would be indoors or outdoors but there has been speculation for a number of years that the company has been looking to get into this field with a possible location in Orlando, Florida.


    Id like to go ? some ? up in the Royal rumble

    That ? sounds AMAZING. We already know Vince is ballsy, but to put an amusement park that close to Disney World is insane.

    It would probably be better off somewhere else and they need to put the actual HOF on the grounds.

    I was thinkin the same thing about it being so close to Disney and yo this would be GOAT