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  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,479 Regulator
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    313 wayz wrote: »
    riddlerap wrote: »
    riddlerap wrote: »
    Trump's bringing back waterboarding. GOAT.

    everyone in this thread is against this apparently. i guess playing nice with terrorists is better.

    Cigarettes and beer work better than torture.
    -General "Maddog" Mattis

    “It has always been recognized that this way of interrogating men, by putting them to torture, produces nothing worthwhile.”
    -Napoleon

    Study after study has proved that ? doesnt work plus its unconstitutional.

    Exactly......Torture doesn't work.....you would admit you were responsible for the murders of Biggie and Pac just for them to stop torturing you....it doesn't work period

    and emboldens more people to join and a rallying cry for Terrorist networks.

    How people quickly forget the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuses scandal

    this ? happened literally this century and ? forget, smh

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  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,479 Regulator
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    A majority of Donald Trump voters think that their president should be allowed to have a private email server.

    Yes, we’re serious.





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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/stephaniemcneal/trump-voters-think-he-should-be-able-to-have-a-private-email?client=safari

    lol , please let this happen please please please.
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    pbs america

    divided states of America

    y'all should check it out
  • Peace_79
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    riddlerap wrote: »
    Trump's bringing back waterboarding. GOAT.

    riddlerap wrote: »
    riddlerap wrote: »
    Trump's bringing back waterboarding. GOAT.

    everyone in this thread is against this apparently. i guess playing nice with terrorists is better.


    You probably think this straw man is a convincing argument.

    You deserve a Trump pesidency.
  • D. Morgan
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    D. Morgan wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
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    Let's look at this a little deeper. "multiple black Democratic staffers told me" thats heresay right there. He names no one "I heard". "that senate Democrats dont give a sht about issues of race/racism" what is that even supposed to mean? They arent black anymore too? This is the same "Democrats dont care about black people" thing. People can choose to go with that if they want I realize its not that cut and dry. Also it depends on expectations/actual awareness and other factors. This is a cartoonishly vague and easily picked apart quote though.

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    Why you mad tho? I know I came too real. Hurt your feelings cause you know your a simplistic gullible clown. And it hurts to have it adressed. Some of us can think deeper. While you take some heresay "I heard" and believe it without question. You dont even have the intelligence to question the source and authenticity when its laughably questionable. Above your grade so you get frustrated and angry. Pitiful and simplistic.

    LLS @ you thinking you be in here dropping knowledge.

    Fact is you looked at as nothing more than the Gee757 of the Grown and Sexy forum!!
  • DNB1
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    VIBE wrote: »
    $14 billion for the wall

    $55 million to fix Flints water problems

    ? politians

    America first!
  • ThaNubianGod
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    VIBE wrote: »
    $14 billion for the wall

    $55 million to fix Flints water problems

    ? politians

    Actually, we passed a 10b water infrastructure bill in Dec. 170m went to Flint which should be more than enough. Nevermind that the issue out there are local, specifically Michigan's Department of Environmental Quality.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-signs-10b-water-bill-that-helps-flint/article/2609870
  • 1CK1S
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    500 BILLION! That's what Trump, Putin and Tillerson are after

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    It’s always fun when news of the US President’s schedule breaks first in Russian media, but the upcoming Trump — Putin chat appears to be on.

    President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin will finally hold their first official conversation on Saturday, Putin’s spokesman said Friday.

    What will they say to each other after the ritual exchange of reassuring praise? There’s one big topic of discussion: It’s time for Trump to cut the check for the services rendered by Putin.

    On Putin’s desk: A deal signed by Rex Tillerson that will give Russia $500B dollars if sanctions are lifted. That’s enough to allow Putin to continue his military expansion and plug the gap on his bleeding economy for a decade or more.

    On Trump’s desk: An executive order to “ease” the sanctions so that Russia can cash that ExxonMobil check. So don’t say that Donald Trump never pays his debts.

    And of course, in addition to the largest business deal in history, Trump might have a longer list of names to hand over.

    Moscow’s establishment has welcomed Trump as a pragmatist who will not try to enforce American values on the rest of the world. In a nationally televised news conference earlier this month, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov railed against the “messianism” and export by the West of “post-Christian values” that embrace “permissiveness,” a nod toward the conservative ethos that has found increasing support in the Kremlin.

    If it’s not clear, what the Russian Foreign Minister is saying here is “thank ? that Trump will allow us to be as cruel to ? as we want, and not complain when we pass laws saying it's okay to beat your wife.”

    But of course, blowing off the sanctions is the real sweet deal for Putin. Russia’s military expenditures in Ukraine and Syria, along with the continued low price of oil, have left Putin badly strapped for cash. It’s placed a cap on his ambitions in Eastern Europe, and limited his ability to strong-arm governments into taking Russia-approved positions. For Trump to lift the sanctions would be against the national interest of the United States in almost every way imaginable. But he seems prepared to go there.

    Meanwhile, FSB officer Sergei Mikhailov, is alleged to have been working as a United States mole within the upper echelons of Russia’s cyber-security apparatus.

    A senior Russian intelligence officer and cybersecurity investigator arrested last month on treason charges allegedly was passing information to U.S. intelligence services, according to Russian media outlets. …

    Russian media says the FSB believes Mikhailov tipped U.S. intelligence about Vladimir Fomenko and his server rental company "King Servers." The U.S. cybersecurity company Threat Connect identified King Servers last year as an "information nexus" used by hackers suspected of working for Russian intelligence in cyberattacks on electoral systems in Arizona and Illinois.

    If Mikhailov was a highly placed, important US source, his unmasking shortly after Trump’s team received briefings on the nature of the intelligence community’s information about Russian hacking seems, at best, highly coincidental. That’s especially true in light of multiple statements from Trump and other members of his regime in which they appeared to take the word of Russian sources over the evidence presented by the IC. Members of Trump’s regime, including Micheal Flynn, have had multiple communications with Russian officials.

    It wouldn’t have taken pointing out Mikhailov by name to result in his arrest along with two other cyber-security specialists in Russia. Knowing that one of the sources was highly placed within the FSB could have been enough to shine a spotlight on an invaluable asset to the United States, not to mention put an end to the lives of three men.

    That some member of the Trump regime is responsible for outing Mikhailov is, for the moment, little better than speculation. The frightening thing is just how easy it is to believe that speculation from a group that has bent over backwards at every opportunity to paint Russia in the best possible light while degrading the value and quality of US intelligence.

    If the Trump team didn’t reveal Mikhailov and the others directly, they might easily have done so with their blatant disregard for security. The president’s desire to use his old, personal smartphone raises concerns that its use could be exposing him and the nation to security threats.

    Donald Trump has taken a lot of actions in this first week, continuing the Gish Gallop with which he conducted his campaign and, if anything, making it worse. But what was true in August is still true.

    Donald Trump may be acting crazy, but it's keeping the news away from the one story he wants to bury. The story then, the story now, is Trump’s subservience to Putin and his willingness to do absolutely anything to forward the Russian agenda.



    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1625914/-To-Russia-with-love-Donald-Trump-ready-to-deliver-500-billion-check-to-Putin
  • 1CK1S
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    He doen't even know his damn self.

    *edit* just watched the whole interview....

    Trump's cabinet, party, and followers are nothing but tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    " You can reach a conclusion and still go back and verify it"
  • ThaNubianGod
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    Hillary Clinton garnered more than 800,000 votes from noncitizens on Nov. 8, an approximation far short of President Trump’s estimate of up to 5 million illegal voters but supportive of his charges of fraud.
    Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trump’s assertion.
    Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.
    Mr. Richman calculated that Mrs. Clinton would have collected 81 percent of noncitizen votes.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/

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  • stringer bell
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-falsely-claims-2-shot-dead-chicago-obama-farewell
    Trump Wrongly Says 2 Were Shot Dead In Chicago During Obama's Farewell

    President Donald Trump falsely claimed in a Wednesday night interview that two people were shot in Chicago during former President Obama’s farewell address in the city, The Chicago Tribune reported.

    ABC News’ David Muir asked Trump about Chicago in one exchange from the interview, which the Tribune noted was not aired on television Wednesday but which appears in the interview’s full transcript. The President has long panned what he has called “carnage” in American cities, Chicago foremost among them.

    “Well, so far they have been unable” to curb the city’s murder rate, Trump said, according to the transcript.

    “It’s been going on for years. And I wasn't President," he continued. "So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.”

    But that's simply not true. The Tribune confirmed with the Chicago Police Department that no shootings occurred during Obama’s speech.

    It's unclear where Trump got the impression that people were fatally shot during Obama's speech. Trump had cited the non-existent shootings to justify a statement on his Twitter account Tuesday night, in which he appeared to be citing incorrect statistics shared on Bill O’Reilly's show.


    Trump wrote that if Chicago didn’t get homicides and shootings under control, he would “send in the feds:”

    This orange piece ? just can't stop lying...
  • BobOblah
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    1CK1S wrote: »

    He doen't even know his damn self.

    *edit* just watched the whole interview....

    Trump's cabinet, party, and followers are nothing but tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.

    Yup, wingnut conspiracy theories just became mainstream. Trump probably would've ordered a raid on that pizza shop.
  • stringer bell
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-falsely-claims-2-shot-dead-chicago-obama-farewell
    Trump Wrongly Says 2 Were Shot Dead In Chicago During Obama's Farewell

    President Donald Trump falsely claimed in a Wednesday night interview that two people were shot in Chicago during former President Obama’s farewell address in the city, The Chicago Tribune reported.

    ABC News’ David Muir asked Trump about Chicago in one exchange from the interview, which the Tribune noted was not aired on television Wednesday but which appears in the interview’s full transcript. The President has long panned what he has called “carnage” in American cities, Chicago foremost among them.

    “Well, so far they have been unable” to curb the city’s murder rate, Trump said, according to the transcript.

    “It’s been going on for years. And I wasn't President," he continued. "So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.”

    But that's simply not true. The Tribune confirmed with the Chicago Police Department that no shootings occurred during Obama’s speech.

    It's unclear where Trump got the impression that people were fatally shot during Obama's speech. Trump had cited the non-existent shootings to justify a statement on his Twitter account Tuesday night, in which he appeared to be citing incorrect statistics shared on Bill O’Reilly's show.


    Trump wrote that if Chicago didn’t get homicides and shootings under control, he would “send in the feds:”

    This orange piece ? just can't stop lying...

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1625834/-Why-did-ABC-s-broadcast-cut-Trump-s-bullsh-t-claim-that-two-were-shot-dead-during-Obama-s-speech
    Why did ABC's broadcast cut Trump's bullsh*t claim that two were shot dead during Obama's speech?

    Kudos to Jeremy Gorner and Jason Meisner, two hardworking reporters at the Chicago Tribune, who scoured police records to prove that no, contrary to the latest excretions from Donald Trump’s neverending geyser of ? , two people were not “shot and killed” during Barack Obama’s farewell speech in his hometown of Chicago on Jan. 10.

    But Gorner and Meisner also uncovered something else. Trump spouted his lies in a new interview with ABC News anchor David Muir—but the network didn’t include them in its broadcast on Wednesday night. Rather, they only appeared in a longer transcript that ABC posted on its site, and according to the Tribune, the station still isn’t sharing the video.

    Obviously every TV news program has to make editing choices in terms of how it cuts down raw footage before presenting it on the air, but this particular decision merits scrutiny. Why didn’t ABC include this newest falsehood in its broadcast? Did it try to fact-check Trump before dropping this segment? And why won’t it provide video now?


    Gun violence is an enormous problem, in Chicago and across the country—but of course, Republicans have no interest in doing anything about it. At the same time, Trump has created an extraordinary challenge for us all by constantly spewing garbage that has no relationship to reality, and it’s hard to keep up. But keep up we must: every lie, every time, especially on an issue of grave importance like this one. There’s no letting Trump off the hook, ever—especially for those who capture Trump’s fabrications on tape.
  • Peace_79
    Peace_79 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
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    Donald Trump Is Still Using His Unsecured Personal Cell Phone


    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/donald-trump-is-still-using-his-unsecured-android-phone.html


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    Should we "Lock him up" too? ...




  • VIBE
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    Insane.

    These clowns say there's voter fraud..

    Then that the media can't be trusted...

    Starting a divide between truths and lies..

    They will fabricate that there were illegal votes..

    They will then destroy the media...

    We will only rely on the WH, Trump and his administration for news, which will all be lies...

    Bruh wtf.. how can u not just impeach him and everyone else? ? .

    How can they truly not see this ? ? Baffles me.
  • 1CK1S
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-falsely-claims-2-shot-dead-chicago-obama-farewell
    Trump Wrongly Says 2 Were Shot Dead In Chicago During Obama's Farewell

    President Donald Trump falsely claimed in a Wednesday night interview that two people were shot in Chicago during former President Obama’s farewell address in the city, The Chicago Tribune reported.

    ABC News’ David Muir asked Trump about Chicago in one exchange from the interview, which the Tribune noted was not aired on television Wednesday but which appears in the interview’s full transcript. The President has long panned what he has called “carnage” in American cities, Chicago foremost among them.

    “Well, so far they have been unable” to curb the city’s murder rate, Trump said, according to the transcript.

    “It’s been going on for years. And I wasn't President," he continued. "So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.”

    But that's simply not true. The Tribune confirmed with the Chicago Police Department that no shootings occurred during Obama’s speech.

    It's unclear where Trump got the impression that people were fatally shot during Obama's speech. Trump had cited the non-existent shootings to justify a statement on his Twitter account Tuesday night, in which he appeared to be citing incorrect statistics shared on Bill O’Reilly's show.


    Trump wrote that if Chicago didn’t get homicides and shootings under control, he would “send in the feds:”

    This orange piece ? just can't stop lying...

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1625834/-Why-did-ABC-s-broadcast-cut-Trump-s-bullsh-t-claim-that-two-were-shot-dead-during-Obama-s-speech
    Why did ABC's broadcast cut Trump's bullsh*t claim that two were shot dead during Obama's speech?

    Kudos to Jeremy Gorner and Jason Meisner, two hardworking reporters at the Chicago Tribune, who scoured police records to prove that no, contrary to the latest excretions from Donald Trump’s neverending geyser of ? , two people were not “shot and killed” during Barack Obama’s farewell speech in his hometown of Chicago on Jan. 10.

    But Gorner and Meisner also uncovered something else. Trump spouted his lies in a new interview with ABC News anchor David Muir—but the network didn’t include them in its broadcast on Wednesday night. Rather, they only appeared in a longer transcript that ABC posted on its site, and according to the Tribune, the station still isn’t sharing the video.

    Obviously every TV news program has to make editing choices in terms of how it cuts down raw footage before presenting it on the air, but this particular decision merits scrutiny. Why didn’t ABC include this newest falsehood in its broadcast? Did it try to fact-check Trump before dropping this segment? And why won’t it provide video now?


    Gun violence is an enormous problem, in Chicago and across the country—but of course, Republicans have no interest in doing anything about it. At the same time, Trump has created an extraordinary challenge for us all by constantly spewing garbage that has no relationship to reality, and it’s hard to keep up. But keep up we must: every lie, every time, especially on an issue of grave importance like this one. There’s no letting Trump off the hook, ever—especially for those who capture Trump’s fabrications on tape.

    Glad they cut that sh-t out!
  • 1CK1S
    1CK1S Members Posts: 27,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VIBE wrote: »
    Insane.

    These clowns say there's voter fraud..

    Then that the media can't be trusted...

    Starting a divide between truths and lies..

    They will fabricate that there were illegal votes..

    They will then destroy the media...

    We will only rely on the WH, Trump and his administration for news, which will all be lies...

    Bruh wtf.. how can u not just impeach him and everyone else? ? .

    How can they truly not see this ? ? Baffles me.

    Still early, but trust me, that sh-t's gonna happen soon.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Donald Trump Is Still Using His Unsecured Personal Cell Phone


    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/donald-trump-is-still-using-his-unsecured-android-phone.html


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    Should we "Lock him up" too? ...




    U know how easy it d be to......nevermind I'm out
  • 1CK1S
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  • Crude_
    Crude_ Members Posts: 19,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
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    1CK1S wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Insane.

    These clowns say there's voter fraud..

    Then that the media can't be trusted...

    Starting a divide between truths and lies..

    They will fabricate that there were illegal votes..

    They will then destroy the media...

    We will only rely on the WH, Trump and his administration for news, which will all be lies...

    Bruh wtf.. how can u not just impeach him and everyone else? ? .

    How can they truly not see this ? ? Baffles me.

    Still early, but trust me, that sh-t's gonna happen soon.

    Republican controlled House and Senate good luck with that.

    They know Trump is garbage but they'll use him to push their agenda and legislation.

    He'll be their useful idiot.
  • D. Morgan
    D. Morgan Members Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Crude_ wrote: »
    1CK1S wrote: »
    VIBE wrote: »
    Insane.

    These clowns say there's voter fraud..

    Then that the media can't be trusted...

    Starting a divide between truths and lies..

    They will fabricate that there were illegal votes..

    They will then destroy the media...

    We will only rely on the WH, Trump and his administration for news, which will all be lies...

    Bruh wtf.. how can u not just impeach him and everyone else? ? .

    How can they truly not see this ? ? Baffles me.

    Still early, but trust me, that sh-t's gonna happen soon.

    Republican controlled House and Senate good luck with that.

    They know Trump is garbage but they'll use him to push their agenda and legislation.

    He'll be their useful idio
    t.

    This, but starting feel like Trump is also a diversion to some ? that they really trying pull behind the scenes.

    Also starting feel like Trump extremism is going to be used in where whoever follows him is going to use finesse tactics to ? us over just as much as Trump did and people not going to recognize it because of how extreme Trump was.