Ones Gotta Go: All Around Player
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Things to factor: stats, teammates , position, opponents, impact on teammates, performance on both ends of floor amongst other things. rings are not a factor.
Ones Gotta Go: All Around Player 50 votes
Lebron James
12%
6 votes
Larry Bird
20%
10 votes
Dwayne Wade
28%
14 votes
Scottie Pippen
32%
16 votes
Oscar Robertonson
8%
4 votes
Comments
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Oscar RobertonsonI love the big o but I'm eliminating him based off athletics, bird wasn't athletic but his height mixed his range and tenacity gives bird the edge
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So you just gonna butcher the Big O's name like that? Robertonson? Really?
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Dwayne WadeDwade
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Oscar RobertonsonSo you just gonna butcher the Big O's name like that? Robertonson? Really?
Golden state did that
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Lebron JamesLebron
That ? is overrated as ? -
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Scottie PippenOut of all the choices, Scottie Pippen wasn't even the best player on his team.
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Larry BirdLeBron will body all of them, but once you said rings were not a factor, Bird was out.
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Scottie Pippenpippin not leading a team like the rest of the list...
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Dwayne Wade? scrolling on my phone and somehow input a vote for LeBron. I would have eliminated Wade.
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Scottie PippenI dont understand why LBJ and Bird has any votes.
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Dwayne WadeShizlansky wrote: »I dont understand why LBJ and Bird has any votes.
Like I said in my previous post, mine was a mistake while scrolling on the mobile. Maybe a couple of others did the same thing.
If not, it just proves the ignorance in the youth on this board lol. Why The Big O has any votes is beyond me. Wade is clearly the weak link here. -
Oscar Robertonsonthe_focused_one wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »I dont understand why LBJ and Bird has any votes.
Like I said in my previous post, mine was a mistake while scrolling on the mobile. Maybe a couple of others did the same thing.
If not, it just proves the ignorance in the youth on this board lol. Why The Big O has any votes is beyond me. Wade is clearly the weak link here.
Big o lacks the athleticism -
Oscar RobertonsonHow Scottie pippen has 8 votes shows how some ppl on here do not know about basketball
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Dwayne WadeHow Scottie pippen has 8 votes shows how some ppl on here do not know about basketball
Scottie is forever Robin to those that don't know. His game was amazing and he gets no credit unless it's to compliment Michael. -
Scottie PippenHow Scottie pippen has 8 votes shows how some ppl on here do not know about basketball
Explain how pippen is better than wade
Wade is a better scorer,more clutch,better handle,better post game than pippen.They both sub par shooters and pippen is better defensively(slightly) -
Lebron JamesVoted wrong, thought it was who I thought was the best one. Pippen is def the worst one though
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Dwayne WadeShizlansky wrote: »I dont understand why LBJ and Bird has any votes.Billy_Poncho wrote: »Voted wrong, thought it was who I thought was the best one. Pippen is def the worst one though
See. This is how LeBron and Bird got votes. LMAO. -
Scottie PippenPippen gotta go
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Its a tough call. Lebron's better than Wade in almost every phase, so he's not going anywhere. Bird, unlike Lebron, wasnt a great athlete. But like Lebron, Bird could dominate the game in all phases, so he's safe. The Big O is the only name on this list who never made an All-Defensive team, but they didnt exist til his 9th season and he averaged a 30 point triple double his first 5 in years in the (albeit watered down) league, so he's good. Sc
It comes down to Scottie and D-Wade. Pippen's one of the greatest wing defenders ever and was a good scorer and passer. Wade was a more explose/efficient scorer than Pippen ever was and is/was a good defender, but not a "lockdown" defender like Pippen. Wade's played 13 seasons, so if you compare it to Scottie's first 13, their numbers are pretty similar except for Scottie averaging almost 2 rebounds more per game and Wade averaging more than 6 points per game. Offensive is more valuable than defense, so I give Wade the edge because of his scoring and the fact that with the exception of the 4 years he played with Lebron, he was the best player on his team which meant his teammates had to rely on him whereas Scottie was only in that situation for less than 2 years in his entire career.
Pippen's gotta go. -
Oscar RobertonsonTommy bilfiger wrote: »
Scottie is a better playmaker, rebounder, defender, athlete and passer.. Scottie can play more positions and defend more positions. Scoring 25+ppg was somethin Scottie never was asked/had to do. All Around he's better than Wade... -
Oscar RobertonsonPanchoYoSancho wrote: »Its a tough call. Lebron's better than Wade in almost every phase, so he's not going anywhere. Bird, unlike Lebron, wasnt a great athlete. But like Lebron, Bird could dominate the game in all phases, so he's safe. The Big O is the only name on this list who never made an All-Defensive team, but they didnt exist til his 9th season and he averaged a 30 point triple double his first 5 in years in the (albeit watered down) league, so he's good. Sc
It comes down to Scottie and D-Wade. Pippen's one of the greatest wing defenders ever and was a good scorer and passer. Wade was a more explose/efficient scorer than Pippen ever was and is/was a good defender, but not a "lockdown" defender like Pippen. Wade's played 13 seasons, so if you compare it to Scottie's first 13, their numbers are pretty similar except for Scottie averaging almost 2 rebounds more per game and Wade averaging more than 6 points per game. Offensive is more valuable than defense, so I give Wade the edge because of his scoring and the fact that with the exception of the 4 years he played with Lebron, he was the best player on his team which meant his teammates had to rely on him whereas Scottie was only in that situation for less than 2 years in his entire career.
Pippen's gotta go.
I was bout to goat it until u said wade was the best on the team the 4 yrs in Miami, major fallacy in your argument -
Scottie cant get a pass for that. Scottie deserves far more respect than he gets from most, but you cant ignore the fact that for most of Wade's career he was asked to carry his team offensively and did. Scottie was the best player on his team for almost 2 years (til Jordan came back) and was putting up just under 22 PPG during that span. Those are very good, but not elite numbers for being the leading scorer on your team. Either he wasnt capable or wasnt asked to be a dominant scorer, but the fact is he never did it and Wade did.Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
Scottie is a better playmaker, rebounder, defender, athlete and passer.. Scottie can play more positions and defend more positions. Scoring 25+ppg was somethin Scottie never was asked/had to do. All Around he's better than Wade... -
Oscar RobertonsonPanchoYoSancho wrote: »
Scottie cant get a pass for that. Scottie deserves far more respect than he gets from most, but you cant ignore the fact that for most of Wade's career he was asked to carry his team offensively and did. Scottie was the best player on his team for almost 2 years (til Jordan came back) and was putting up just under 22 PPG during that span. Those are very good, but not elite numbers for being the leading scorer on your team. Either he wasnt capable or wasnt asked to be a dominant scorer, but the fact is he never did it and Wade did.Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
Scottie is a better playmaker, rebounder, defender, athlete and passer.. Scottie can play more positions and defend more positions. Scoring 25+ppg was somethin Scottie never was asked/had to do. All Around he's better than Wade...
Being a better All Around scorer =/= being a better All Around player, just a fact
