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  • D. Morgan
    D. Morgan Members Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wizards haven't done ? this offseason to get better. ? YOU Ernie Grunfeld and double ? YOU Ted Leonsis

    This ? ain't no better than the combination of Abe Pollin(owner) and Wes Unseld(GM).

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  • eyes low
    eyes low Members Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i hope wade stays so heat dont match the tyler johnson offer sheet
  • usmarin3
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    O.G. wrote: »
    They would never burn Wades jersey in Miami. No way.

    We don't give a ? like them white boys in OKC or Ohio like that down here in SoFlo. ? would just walk outside feel that nice weather and go chase some ? .
  • Ghostdenithegawd
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    And it's not like any of the teams he's rumored to go to are going to be a thought in the playoffs this ? is wack as ?
  • S2J
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Warriors ? up the chemistry and balance of their team imo. Straight perimeter team. Still doesn't fix the problem they had with Cleveland of getting killed on the boards. All them jump shots ain't gonna keep going in and at some point you're gonna need second chance points.

    Bruh, what does this MEAN? :s

    Where was this logic when the Heat went to the finals 4 straight and won 2 titles with a bare bones bench, Joel Anthony, James Jones, Mike Miler and his back, found Chris Andersen out rehab, etc. Also with Bosh playing Shooting Forward

    Are you sure you, and others, arent just tryin to avoid being "sheep" and now you're just tryin to be on some other ? ? Its cool to admit that. Its that 'Drexler low key better than Jordan' mindset that existed before he Bulls took over.
  • S2J
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    The funny thing is if GS doesn't win it all next year some will take it at as vindication that 'it' didn't work. It'd be brutal, but imagine the 80s if everytime Boston/ LA lost to one another we called em a failure.

    Sit tight man. GS aint goin nowhere. We will be here a while (watching them in the finals) . It is happening
  • IgboNegro
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    S2J wrote: »
    The funny thing is if GS doesn't win it all next year some will take it at as vindication that 'it' didn't work. It'd be brutal, but imagine the 80s if everytime Boston/ LA lost to one another we called em a failure.

    Sit tight man. GS aint goin nowhere. We will be here a while (watching them in the finals) . It is happening

    I think it's a little different than back then. I'm assuming that most people see GS as hands down the best team in the league with no team coming close. Meanwhile, those lakers/celtics teams were both all time good
  • King_MOEbra
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    Everybody relax: my Cavs are still gonna repeat!
  • TheBoyRo
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  • TheBoyRo
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    Barkley in his feelings
    Charles Barkley doesn't like that Kevin Durant is jumping on the Golden State Warriors' "gravy train" to win a title and said he doesn't feel like a "? ," because he didn't "cheat" his way to one in his career.

    Durant chose to sign a two-year deal with the Warriors this week after nine seasons with the Oklahoma City Thunder that netted him seven All-Star Games, one MVP and one NBA Finals appearance but no championship.

    "I was disappointed. I was disappointed like I was disappointed when LeBron went to Miami," Barkley said on ESPN Radio's Mike and Mike on Wednesday. "Kevin is a terrific player, he's a good kid. But just disappointed with the fact that he weakened another team and he's gonna kind of gravy train on a terrific Warriors team. Just disappointed from a competitive standpoint. Because just like it meant more to LeBron to win one in Cleveland, it would mean more to Kevin to win one in Oklahoma than it would be in Golden State."


    Charles Barkley was an MVP in 1992-93 but lost in his only Finals appearance. USA TODAY Sports
    Barkley played 16 seasons in his Hall of Fame career with the Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was an All-Star 11 times but only made the Finals once, in his 1992-93 MVP season, losing to Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls in six games.

    Barkley headlines a long list of NBA greats who have never won a championships -- players such as Elgin Baylor, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, George Gervin, Allen Iverson and Reggie Miller. Barkley, who is now a TNT analyst, doesn't think it makes them lesser players.

    "We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a ? .' I don't feel like a ? ," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.

    "I'm a big Chris Paul fan. I'm sure Chris Paul wants to win a championship. And he could, when his contract is up, go join one of these super teams and get a championship. But it won't be the same as leading your team where you're the bus driver instead of the bus rider."

    Barkley, however, did demand to be traded twice in his career in attempts to improve his chances to win a title, leading to trades from the 76ers to the Suns in 1992 and from the Suns to the Rockets in 1996. Houston won back-to-back NBA titles before his arrival, and Barkley spoke openly of his desire to play with the Rockets' big stars before he was traded to Houston.

    "The best thing about it would be getting the chance to play with Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler. We would be very formidable," Barkley said in July 1996, a month before he was dealt.

    Durant joins two-time MVP Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala, a core that won 73 games in the regular season but lost in the NBA Finals to LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. The team Durant leaves, the Thunder, had the Warriors on the ropes in the Western Conference finals, leading 3-1 before dropping the last three games. The Thunder are now left wondering if they're good enough to win it all and whether they should consider trading superstar Russell Westbrook before he can leave as a free agent after next season.

    Barkley doesn't like this whole process.

    "We're gonna have guys on bad teams making $25 million a year. And we're going to have three or four competitive teams," Barkley said. "That's the negative of LeBron going to Miami, KD going to Golden State.

    "First of all the fans love their teams, they love sports. But they're not going to go see Sacramento, Indiana, Miami, these bad teams where guys are making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year and they don't have a chance to compete. I mean, that's where we're going. We're going to ? the golden goose. Everybody's going to be making a lot of money, but other than five teams we're going to be putting a shabby product out there. That's what's going to ? the NBA in the next few years in my opinion."
  • Breezy_Kilroy
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    S2J wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Warriors ? up the chemistry and balance of their team imo. Straight perimeter team. Still doesn't fix the problem they had with Cleveland of getting killed on the boards. All them jump shots ain't gonna keep going in and at some point you're gonna need second chance points.

    Bruh, what does this MEAN? :s

    Where was this logic when the Heat went to the finals 4 straight and won 2 titles with a bare bones bench, Joel Anthony, James Jones, Mike Miler and his back, found Chris Andersen out rehab, etc. Also with Bosh playing Shooting Forward

    Are you sure you, and others, arent just tryin to avoid being "sheep" and now you're just tryin to be on some other ? ? Its cool to admit that. Its that 'Drexler low key better than Jordan' mindset that existed before he Bulls took over.

    Lord help us! I Didn't think this day would come but I gotta agree this ? .

    Chemistry is just a blanket term if we wanna be real. There are teams that have been playing together for years and still can't get it done. I bet its not because they lack chemistry.

    Celtics got it done that same year. In a matter of months Kobe and Pau figured it out to head to the Finals. Lebron went back to the Finals on a completely new team with ? that ain't never been there.

    So when people scream chemistry, I don't wanna hear that. When realistically there are only a small amount of teams that lacked chemistry who were actually contending.
  • infamous114
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    Lol ? Barkley. Dude is a character
  • D. Morgan
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    444-606 that is the Wizards record with Ernie Grunfeld as the GM. Why does this ? guy still have a job?

  • Vader_F_Kennedy
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    When is wall a FA
  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wall need to be in the gym right now

    He's not good enough
  • D. Morgan
    D. Morgan Members Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    R.D. wrote: »
    Wall need to be in the gym right now

    He's not good enough

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  • aneed123
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    TheBoyRo wrote: »
    Barkley in his feelings
    Charles Barkley doesn't like that Kevin Durant is jumping on the Golden State Warriors' "gravy train" to win a title and said he doesn't feel like a "? ," because he didn't "cheat" his way to one in his career.

    Durant chose to sign a two-year deal with the Warriors this week after nine seasons with the Oklahoma City Thunder that netted him seven All-Star Games, one MVP and one NBA Finals appearance but no championship.

    "I was disappointed. I was disappointed like I was disappointed when LeBron went to Miami," Barkley said on ESPN Radio's Mike and Mike on Wednesday. "Kevin is a terrific player, he's a good kid. But just disappointed with the fact that he weakened another team and he's gonna kind of gravy train on a terrific Warriors team. Just disappointed from a competitive standpoint. Because just like it meant more to LeBron to win one in Cleveland, it would mean more to Kevin to win one in Oklahoma than it would be in Golden State."


    Charles Barkley was an MVP in 1992-93 but lost in his only Finals appearance. USA TODAY Sports
    Barkley played 16 seasons in his Hall of Fame career with the Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets. He was an All-Star 11 times but only made the Finals once, in his 1992-93 MVP season, losing to Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls in six games.

    Barkley headlines a long list of NBA greats who have never won a championships -- players such as Elgin Baylor, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Dominique Wilkins, George Gervin, Allen Iverson and Reggie Miller. Barkley, who is now a TNT analyst, doesn't think it makes them lesser players.

    "We develop this thing where you keep telling these guys, 'Hey man, if you don't win a championship you're a ? .' I don't feel like a ? ," he said. "I'm pretty sure Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and John Stockton -- we think we're pretty damn good. We could have played with some of those other guys and kind of cheated our way to a championship. But there is this thing that started with this new generation where these guys feel so much pressure. Everybody wants to win.

    "I'm a big Chris Paul fan. I'm sure Chris Paul wants to win a championship. And he could, when his contract is up, go join one of these super teams and get a championship. But it won't be the same as leading your team where you're the bus driver instead of the bus rider."

    Barkley, however, did demand to be traded twice in his career in attempts to improve his chances to win a title, leading to trades from the 76ers to the Suns in 1992 and from the Suns to the Rockets in 1996. Houston won back-to-back NBA titles before his arrival, and Barkley spoke openly of his desire to play with the Rockets' big stars before he was traded to Houston.

    "The best thing about it would be getting the chance to play with Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler. We would be very formidable," Barkley said in July 1996, a month before he was dealt.

    Durant joins two-time MVP Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala, a core that won 73 games in the regular season but lost in the NBA Finals to LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. The team Durant leaves, the Thunder, had the Warriors on the ropes in the Western Conference finals, leading 3-1 before dropping the last three games. The Thunder are now left wondering if they're good enough to win it all and whether they should consider trading superstar Russell Westbrook before he can leave as a free agent after next season.

    Barkley doesn't like this whole process.

    "We're gonna have guys on bad teams making $25 million a year. And we're going to have three or four competitive teams," Barkley said. "That's the negative of LeBron going to Miami, KD going to Golden State.

    "First of all the fans love their teams, they love sports. But they're not going to go see Sacramento, Indiana, Miami, these bad teams where guys are making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year and they don't have a chance to compete. I mean, that's where we're going. We're going to ? the golden goose. Everybody's going to be making a lot of money, but other than five teams we're going to be putting a shabby product out there. That's what's going to ? the NBA in the next few years in my opinion."

    He telling the truth tho
  • lord nemesis
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    I thought Wall had a really good year considering all the ? surrounding him
  • Vader_F_Kennedy
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    R.D. wrote: »
    Wall need to be in the gym right now

    He's not good enough

    At one point ppl said wall >> kyrie

    But they two different types of pgs just depends on what type you prefer
  • IgboNegro
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    Wall had his best year statistically last year, he got no help tho. He needs to get outta that ? of a team