The Official 2016-2017 NBA Thread (NBA Champs Warriors)
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Inglewood_B wrote: »2 back to back MVPs, multiple rings, a whole bunch of all star appereances, end up as the both shooter of all time, end up most 3s made, leader of a team that went 73-9 is getting in just cause HOF is watered down?
This is the first year I been an active participant in this thread for a whole season, and I kept seeing @beta and others mention how this thread falls off during the playoffs in general but finals specifically, and now I know what they meant.
Some of yall ? are straight stupid man.
Sad part is... as much as ? ? on the general knowledge of this thread, it's even worse in real life. When the last time you tried to talk sports with co workers and ? ?
The day before game three I sat and listened to 2 people argue over whether or not Kevin Durant was a role player on the Warriors. And even worse, the guy saying he WAS a role player was coming with better arguments, flimsy as they were...
I tend not to take sports arguments serious anymore but at that point I legit felt where R.D. And Billfigger be comin from. ? was pathetic...
? b worse on other forums/sites, someone on my fb tl shared this ?
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Klay definitely in if Reggie in? Not sure if I agree with what's implied there
The idea of Reggie Miller is much greater than Reggie the player that's all I'm going to say. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Klay definitely in if Reggie in? Not sure if I agree with what's implied there
By the standards that Reggie got in Klay can certainly match and/or exceed all of them -
I think we should wait until klay leads a team at least b4 we go there. At this point the idea of klay might b better than the player as well. With what y'all saying might as well sneak rip Hamilton in thru the back door
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »I think I've realized these last 2 games y kyrie was a loser b4 bron came and y they suck when he resting
Kyrie went to a 19-63 team that lost 26 games in a row as a 19 year old with 11 games of college experience under his belt.It makes no sense when people say "but kyrie never made the playoffs until lebron went there!!!" they sucked & were a perennial lottery team who also took steps backwards when they botched a #1 pick.They weren't a good team.
They don't win without lebron because they don't know how to play without lebron.He pigeon holes everyone into roles.
Kyrie has been the same throughout, he nice but he play ? ball n isn't the best decision maker, early in his career he didn't have the squad or health but now playing the same I have doubts he can win over 40, that ain't Bron fault, one can say bron marginalizes players, but he makes em better, Kyrie don't
Name a list if players that lbj made better?
This ? can't be seriousLogical Truths wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »I think I've realized these last 2 games y kyrie was a loser b4 bron came and y they suck when he resting
Kyrie went to a 19-63 team that lost 26 games in a row as a 19 year old with 11 games of college experience under his belt.It makes no sense when people say "but kyrie never made the playoffs until lebron went there!!!" they sucked & were a perennial lottery team who also took steps backwards when they botched a #1 pick.They weren't a good team.
They don't win without lebron because they don't know how to play without lebron.He pigeon holes everyone into roles.
Kyrie has been the same throughout, he nice but he play ? ball n isn't the best decision maker, early in his career he didn't have the squad or health but now playing the same I have doubts he can win over 40, that ain't Bron fault, one can say bron marginalizes players, but he makes em better, Kyrie don't
Name a list if players that lbj made better?
This ? can't be serious
Lmao.......every player hes ever played with.....plus coaches as wellLove has been marginalized just like bosh was, he's become a stretch 4 who jacks 3's all game.
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »I think we should wait until klay leads a team at least b4 we go there. At this point the idea of klay might b better than the player as well. With what y'all saying might as well sneak rip Hamilton in thru the back door
Reggie gets romanticized because of the big shots he hit and the ether he dropped on NY in particular. But by any other tangible metric, Klay has him beat plus Klay bout to have 2 chips.
True enough you can say Reggie in his prime wasn't his team's third or fourth best player (depending on who you ask) like Klay is. But even if Klay eventually leaves GS at some point he doesn't have to do much else but throw up a string of 20+ scoring seasons which he can easily do. -
Rip never touched Klay's 3 point potency, or overall firepower for that matter.
Neither did Reggie ...
Career Avg: 22-4-2
2 Rings (Likely)
60 Pts in 29 minutes
Key Player in a Dynasty (Arguable)
8+ Years to improve on that.
Hes a better player than Reggie and he'll have a better career when it's all said and done -
I feel u, not saying what y'all saying is ridiculous, I'm just not ready to say just yet
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Rip never touched Klay's 3 point potency, or overall firepower for that matter.
Neither did Reggie ...
Career Avg: 22-4-2
2 Rings (Likely)
60 Pts in 29 minutes
Key Player in a Dynasty (Arguable)
8+ Years to improve on that.
Hes a better player than Reggie and he'll have a better career when it's all said and done
I think If you put klay on say... The Hawks, he's the best player like rip on the pistons but doesn't get the luxuries that he's afforded now, the careers look even more similar minus the 3's, 60 pts in 29 is likely not happening, thats something that's got klay romanticized as well, he on a trajectory for hof for sure. I'm just not sure he'd b that much better than detroit or Washington rip on another team or has surpassed Reggie that easily -
Rip Hamilton wasnt the best player on the Pistons
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Draymond is nothing more than a high quality role player.
He'll probably get some more rings, all star appearances, contend for defensive player of the year awards, and that'll be enough to get him in.
Dude reminds me a lot of a Jerome Kersey type guy who was a solid third or fourth option that did a little bit of everything in his heyday but not a star that's pretty much what Draymond is. -
southsil4lil wrote: »Rip Hamilton wasnt the best player on the Pistons
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Draymond is nothing more than a high quality role player.
He'll probably get some more rings, all star appearances, contend for defensive player of the year awards, and that'll be enough to get him in.
Dude reminds me a lot of a Jerome Kersey type guy who was a solid third or fourth option that did a little bit of everything in his heyday but not a star that's pretty much what Draymond is.
Draymond Basketball IQ / Playmaking
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Draymond is nothing more than a high quality role player.
He'll probably get some more rings, all star appearances, contend for defensive player of the year awards, and that'll be enough to get him in.
Dude reminds me a lot of a Jerome Kersey type guy who was a solid third or fourth option that did a little bit of everything in his heyday but not a star that's pretty much what Draymond is.
Draymond Basketball IQ / Playmaking
>>>>>>>>>
Jerome Kersey
I will not deny that at all.
Draymond is a much better passer and playmaker.
His game benefits immensely from having 2 of the the best shooters in NBA history stretching the floor as well as GSW's ball movement. Now he also has a top 5-6 small forward in history playing next to him.
Without those factors I don't know if they'd be able to get away with playing him as like a 6'7 PF/C.
Him and Kersey's games are similar guys can score a little and rebound and go play a little defense on the other end. Green is a much better passer but they're a wash pretty much everywhere else imo.
Boris Diaw was basically that same guy in San Antonio for a few years. -
southsil4lil wrote: »Rip Hamilton wasnt the best player on the Pistons
Arguable, he was the best scorer n Chauncey the leader imo, they kinda have a similar dynamic (with less scoring) to DeRozan and lowry now -
I heard some folks yesterday say "the warriors have 4 HOF playing for them right now".
That wasn't from some fans on the street or internet.
Who the ? are the other 2 HOF and I ain't sure Steph Curry is a HOF?
Nah curry was the hall as soon as he won the 2nd MVP
Klay and draymond are by projection but draymond has a better case than klay if we're going by projection
That's until one or both them ? leave or get traded and get exposed -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »southsil4lil wrote: »Rip Hamilton wasnt the best player on the Pistons
Arguable, he was the best scorer n Chauncey the leader imo, they kinda have a similar dynamic (with less scoring) to DeRozan and lowry now
Chauncey was much more dependable than Lowry and a better shooter too but I get where you're going here. -
Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »I heard some folks yesterday say "the warriors have 4 HOF playing for them right now".
That wasn't from some fans on the street or internet.
Who the ? are the other 2 HOF and I ain't sure Steph Curry is a HOF?
Nah curry was the hall as soon as he won the 2nd MVP
Klay and draymond are by projection but draymond has a better case than klay if we're going by projection
That's until one or both them ? leave or get traded and get exposed
Klay leave the warriors and he turns into khris Middleton -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »southsil4lil wrote: »Rip Hamilton wasnt the best player on the Pistons
Arguable, he was the best scorer n Chauncey the leader imo, they kinda have a similar dynamic (with less scoring) to DeRozan and lowry now
Chauncey was much more dependable than Lowry and a better shooter too but I get where you're going here.
Yeah I just thought it was similar how rip n DeMar the lead scorers but billups n lowry kinda viewed as the leaders/driving force of they teams -
Anyone wanna make an avi bet ? Cleveland wins tonight's game and they win another game. So the series will be 3-2 until the next other games.....
aye dog go back to the ppm and look at porn -
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Cleveland is still gonna win the championship btwOK !!!
Cleveland got this !!!!!If Golden State wins this they might go 4-1
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I'm still rooting for the Cavs thoGolden State might go 4-0 or 4-1 but best believe if the Cavs lose, LeBron is gonna move some pieces around and bring in someone to deal with a situation like a KD. I don't ? think Carmelo is going over there. I don't know who else the Cavs could add to their roster. Remember it's still early and if the Cavs lose Wednesday's game then there's cause for concern.
That being said KD looks fixed to win the championship and would rather die than lose. With that attitude I don't see him losing unless someone gets injured or suspended....Maaaaannn don't know what to say about that game but I don't see GS losing a lead like this again. KD is a force man good Lord.....Anyone wanna make an avi bet ? Cleveland wins tonight's game and they win another game. So the series will be 3-2 until the next other games.....
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