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Teddy P outchea knocking young ? out
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I'm seeing alot of left tackles becoming available...Giants better scoop one up and another one in the draft just in case
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Two fuckboys probably following him around with their camera phones, talkin about how he washed and just being generally annoying and wild disrespectful and ended up on the wrong side of a world star video
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Why dallas releasing romo instead of trading does it save them $$
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natural born sinners wrote: »Why dallas releasing romo instead of trading does it save them $$
Nobody is gonna give up assets while taking on his current contract -
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natural born sinners wrote: »Why dallas releasing romo instead of trading does it save them $$
Nobody is gonna give up assets while taking on his current contract
Ok...I figured they would try to get something back for him...I'm not too clear on how this works...so does dallas still have to pay some of his salary if another team signs him or no? -
yo huey, how many of those rings you got as replicas fam?
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They still would owe him. They probably will June 1st cut him so they can divide it up. Doing that will only get them out of the hole. They'll have like 600K in cap room after that.natural born sinners wrote: »natural born sinners wrote: »Why dallas releasing romo instead of trading does it save them $$
Nobody is gonna give up assets while taking on his current contract
Ok...I figured they would try to get something back for him...I'm not too clear on how this works...so does dallas still have to pay some of his salary if another team signs him or no? -
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^^ All the ? had to do is run 3.4 yards and he would've fell down chasing behind her
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Struggle cuts
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lord nemesis wrote: »Feeling good about the Bucs coming out the South next season or at least getting a wildcard. I said the same before last season and was one bad fourth quarter against Dallas from being right.
Needs
Offensive line help, especially at tackle.
Legit #2 receiver to take some attention off Mike.
Safety. Chris Conte a FA and shouldn't be resigned
Corner. Need somebody to pair with Vernon for the future.
I wish we could get out of Doug's contract. I'd like a cheaper, younger option with some more explosiveness.
Jameis gotta continue to develop. Cut down on the picks and become more consistent and accurate.
We can get out of Dougs contract since be failed a drug test. Good list. I don't hate our safety situation with Tandy and McDougald. I think they want Elliott to play more at corner, but I'm not sure. Definitely need OT and a #2 WR though. -
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SUPER BOWL!!!!! -
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? bout to have that predator hairline -
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? bout to have that predator hairline
Half this page is filled with bad decision making by the browns.... -
Free agency fits: Eric Berry to Titans? Alshon Jeffery to Rams?
By Elliot Harrison
NFL Media analyst
Published: Feb. 15, 2017 at 01:16 p.m.
Updated: Feb. 16, 2017 at 12:27 p.m.
Kirk Cousins, quarterback - Potential fits: Redskins, 49ers, Browns.
Cousins will, barring a major surprise, end up with the Redskins -- either via the franchise tag (again) for $24 million or under a long-term deal that won't come much cheaper per year. But major surprises do happen every so often, so who else could be out there? The Browns and 49ers could make sense.
Long-starved for a franchise quarterback, the Browns have tons of money -- as in, the most cap space in the league, according to OverTheCap.com. They also have enough draft capital that the blow for handing over two first-round picks (the price for signing a player under the non-exclusive franchise tag, should the Redskins go that route with Cousins) would be softened a tad. Trading down in last year's draft -- allowing the Eagles to nab Carson Wentz -- provided the Browns with a gaggle of picks. That said, paying multiple first-round picks for Cousins wouldn't seem to fit into Cleveland's Moneyball approach. Not to mention, adding Cousins would be highly unusual unless the Browns are completely scrapping the RGIII project, given that Cousins was Griffin's former caddy in D.C.
The 49ers have a ton of available cap space, as well, should Jed York sign off on using it. They also have a brand new offensive-minded head coach who was part of the process of drafting Cousins three rounds after RGIII back in his Washington days. Kyle Shanahan surely would like nothing more than to start his new gig with an established QB who can handle his run-on-sentence-long play calls. New Niners general manager John Lynch is a fan of Cousins, as well.
Likely that the Redskins let Cousins walk? No. Worth two first-round picks? Did you watch the quarterbacks in the Super Bowl?
Le'Veon Bell, running back - Potential fits: Steelers, Buccaneers, Jaguars.
Like Cousins, Bell almost certainly will get franchise-tagged. Unlike the quarterback, though, this running back wouldn't draw a pair of first-round picks from anyone. Nothing against him or his versatile skill set. It's just, well, over the past four drafts, we've seen a grand total of three running backs go in Round 1 (Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon). So forget about someone giving up two first-rounders. Not to mention, Bell has encountered some off-field issues that make his availability a concern. Lastly, RB shelf life is like milk shelf life -- and Bell already has an injury history.
Yet, if the Steelers know something we don't and allow Bell to hit the open market without using the franchise tag, two teams should pounce: the Jags and Bucs.
Jacksonville has plenty of cap space -- and hasn't fielded even a top-20 run game since my colleague Maurice Jones-Drew led the league in rushing back in 2011. Also, Bell's pass-catching prowess certainly would significantly help the development of QB Blake Bortles. The addition of Bell wouldn't render last offseason's signing of Chris Ivory moot, either -- the big man could still be used situationally.
Meanwhile, the Bucs need an every-down back. Doug Martin is enduring personal challenges off the field and will be suspended for the first four games of 2017. Jacquizz Rodgers, who gave the team a nice boost last season, is a free agent. The offense has talented youngsters in Jameis Winston, Mike Evans and Cameron Brate, but Bell would give the unit a whole other dimension. Throw in an emerging defense, and we could be talking about an instant contender. The Bucs have a healthy amount of cap space, too.
Eric Berry, safety - Potential fits: Titans, Browns, Raiders.
If Kansas City can't get a long-term deal done -- like the Vikings did with Harrison Smith and the Cardinals managed with Tyrann Mathieu last offseason -- why wouldn't a team make a bold move and pay Berry like the top-flight player he is? The safety would be a fantastic coup for the Titans -- and a fun toy to play with for DC ? LeBeau (who made the Hall of Fame as a DB, by the way). Then there's the Browns, sitting on that pile of cash, inserting sabermetrics into their analytics processor -- the same concoction that said no dice on retaining Tashaun Gipson last year. Would Berry's all-around play (five takeaways, three scores and 77 tackles in 2016) influence a different line of thinking in the Haslam halls? New defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has said he thinks the organization will be "aggressive" in acquiring personnel. Berry would alter the tenor of that defense.
Granted, this is a stretch -- call it fun speculation -- but why can't the Raiders kick the tires on Berry? Upgrade a position while taking away from a division rival? Team brass missed out last offseason on Eric Weddle, who left the Chargers to make a huge difference in Baltimore. Oakland did sign Reggie Nelson, but he'll be 34 in September. A few more potential fits for Berry: Colts, Panthers, Bears, Redskins, Jags.
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Alshon Jeffery, wide receiver
Potential fits: Rams, 49ers, Buccaneers.
Jeffery is another player who could get the tag slapped on him (again), but that appears to be a far less likely outcome for the Bears receiver than for the guys above. Jeffery has been an off-and-on player in Chicago. And given that the Bears just paid him $14,599,000 in 2016 (under the franchise designation) for 52 catches and two touchdowns, it's hard to believe they'd play tag again. But then again, look at their depth chart at receiver.
If the Bears let him walk -- as most anticipate -- the Rams, 49ers and Bucs could make a play.
Los Angeles' top outside performer last year was Kenny Britt, who is a free agent. Jared Goff can't succeed with only Sean McVay at his side -- although the new head coach is practically Britt's age. The 49ers have the second-most cap space to the Browns, according to OverTheCap.com, and could use a big target for whoever plays quarterback in San Francisco next season. Putting Jeffery on one side would definitely make Torrey Smith more effective on the other. Lastly, the Bucs could use another Vincent Jackson (who is now a free agent -- and 34 years old). A big-bodied duo of Evans and Jeffery would be quite tough to defend, especially in the red zone.
Dont'a Hightower, linebacker
Potential fits: Colts, Redskins, Raiders.
Well, we discussed Berry donning the Silver and Black above. That might not merely be speculation, but rampant speculation. However, Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie has stated that inside linebacker is "a hole that we have to fill." Oakland won't be sleepless letting go of ex-Seattle linebacker Malcolm Smith. Enter Hightower, who would join a so-so defense with more raw talent than production (at this point, anyway).
Meanwhile, the Colts must rebuild the defense straight up the middle, and have the dollars to do so.
Perhaps the most interesting match, though, would be the Redskins, who have lacked the type of defensive leadership in the ILB spot Hightower could bring since London Fletcher hung 'em up. The 'Skins are in their best cap shape in years, yet have several important free agents in their own driveway to consider first: Cousins, DeSean Jackson, Pierre Garçon ...
Most importantly: The Colts, Redskins and Raiders all gave up at least 4.5 yards per carry in
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A.J. Bouye, cornerback
Potential fits: Lions, Saints, Browns.
Bouye is another player who easily could be tagged. It'd make plenty of sense. The Texans have developed this former undrafted free-agent signee (in the Gary Kubiak administration) into quite a player -- why allow the 25-year-old to take prime years elsewhere? Houston head coach Bill O'Brien has said the franchise wants him back. But if the Texans do decide to tag Bouye, that means they would be paying approximately 14 million bucks for a guy who has been a premier corner for all of one season. Pretty steep. He wouldn't make near that much per year in a long-term deal.
Thus, Bouye could be sitting on the market for the Lions, Saints or Browns. This past season, Cleveland gave up the most passing touchdowns, New Orleans the most passing yards. And Detroit allowed opposing quarterbacks to complete an astounding 72.7 percent of their passes.
Martellus Bennett, tight end
Potential fits: Colts, Rams, Giants.
I was tempted to put the Bears and Cowboys in "Potential fits," just to make sure you're reading with purpose, but I have faith in my audience! (Despite some of the scorched-earth commentary that tends to appear in the comments section below.) Bennett has been around the league, experiencing varying degrees of success, but he really came into his own as a complete team player in New England this past season. Maybe there was some maturation, maybe he bought into "the Patriot Way," maybe he enjoyed playing alongside another physical freak at the position in Rob Gronkowski (well, for half a season). Now, no one is really sure what the Patriots are planning to do with Bennett (... and Jimmy Garoppolo and Dont'a Hightower, for that matter). What we do know is that they almost certainly will not match what some team with plenty of space is willing to offer. Not with the variety of people New England uses in the passing game, and the (hopeful) return to full health of Gronk.
The Colts might be that team, given that Dwayne Allen has yet to take the next step to Bennett's level, and Jack Doyle is a free agent. The Rams must acquire talent for Jared Goff. And after seeing the way McVay maximized Jordan Reed (and even Vernon Davis) with the Redskins, why not scoop up Bennett? Tell me his personality wouldn't fit in L.A.
Interesting side note: Bennett has indicated he'd be open to returning to the Giants. With the recent releases of Victor Cruz and Rashad Jennings, why not spend some dough on the TE? -
Jason Pierre-Paul, defensive end
Potential fits: Giants, Lions, Dolphins.
Of all the impending free agents, JPP might be the most intriguing. That guy proved a lot of people wrong last year -- those skeptics who thought he wouldn't be able to compete with that hand mangled by the fireworks accident. Here's the deal: The Giants absolutely could use Pierre-Paul back on the line, playing at the same level he did in 2016. For all the Odell Beckham Jr. love, Big Blue finished 26th in points scored -- and second in points allowed. How about that?
The Lions also could use a pass rusher like JPP, as they amassed just 26 sacks (worst in the NFC). Detroit could have won the NFC North if the secondary didn't allow opponents a 106.5 passer rating, easily the highest mark in the league. The Dolphins would be an appropriate fit, given that Mario Williams disappointed last season and almost certainly won't be back. Not to mention Miami's top edge rusher, Cameron Wake, is in his mid-30s. Executive VP Mike Tannenbaum is not afraid to make a splash in free agency.
DeSean Jackson, wide receiver
Potential fits: Eagles, Titans, Rams.
There's been plenty of speculation about Jackson returning to Philadelphia. Brandon Graham's giddy thinking about it. Football insiders are mumbling about it. And everyone knows the Eagles could use their old field stretcher again. Ideally, they'll be in the market for Jackson, Jeffery or one of the other top free-agent wideouts, but can they afford it? That's the question. The Eagles are not in the best financial position to acquire high-priced free agents. But the Titans are -- and could really use a guy to take the top off the defense. Making safeties hyper-aware of a player like Jackson would A) create wider throwing windows for Marcus Mariota and
lighten the box for a team that loves to run the football.
As mentioned in blurbs above, the Rams must provide some support for Goff -- unfortunately, thanks to Goff, they don't have as many draft picks to do so. As Jackson's OC in Washington the last three years, McVay knows the wideout's merits as well as anyone. (His drawbacks, too.) And despite Tavon Austin's speed, his game has not been vertical at the NFL level.
Dontari Poe, defensive tackle
Potential fits: Titans, 49ers, Bengals.
Not seeing much written about Poe potentially ending up in Tennessee. OK, but here's what we do know: Jon Robinson's Titans are not afraid to make big offseason moves, as evidenced by last year's trade for DeMarco Murray. As much as the Chiefs might want to retain Poe, they won't have the funds to pay him, Berry and Charles this offseason. In fact, given that they are near the bottom of the barbecue pit in available cap dollars (according to OverTheCap.com), the Chiefs might only be able to pay Berry.
Poe could get paid in Nashville, playing an important role in LeBeau's defense a few miles up Interstate 40 from where he played his college ball. Staying in the AFC, the Bengals need to replace long-time veteran Domata Peko in the middle of that defense. Poe would be an instant upgrade, allowing Vontaze Burfict to run free and make plays. The 49ers could replace another former Chief (Glenn Dorsey) with Poe, who would start alongside the team's top picks from each of the last two drafts (Arik Armstead and DeForest Buckner). The Raiders and Colts are other possibilities for the big man. -
i ain't read that ? but why would Eric Berry go to the Titans? They a good 2-3 years out
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i ain't read that ? but why would Eric Berry go to the Titans? They a good 2-3 years out
Now I'm gonna preface this by saying I'm a fan. so it may ? off as sounding like a bit of a homer.
But we just came off a 9-7 record season in a very weak division with a promising qb. We also have tons of cap space, have a top 5 pick in the draft, labeau has been given the reigns of the defense, and we play in a city of a state where there's no state income tax. not to mention Nashville is like 4-5 hrs away from his home town Atlanta. I mean I can see how we could be an ideal location for him -
As long as Thomas can stay healthy, that's a steal of a trade for my Dolphins
