Whats Wrong With Being Regionally Biased?
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genocidecutter wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
Don't waste your time arguing with that idiot.
You can have a discussion without arguing ? -
Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
I have ? top 5 and death certificate top 10.....to me the other 3 aren't in the convo for top 5 though
Btw do me a favor...i was in the land a few weeks ago....go tell the rock n roll hall of fame they need more Tupac stuff...his exhibit was underwhelming for a new hall of famer
? the R&R HoF. And to not recognize what the other albums have done for the genre is ignorance at best and disingenuous at worst. -
Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
I have ? top 5 and death certificate top 10.....to me the other 3 aren't in the convo for top 5 though
Btw do me a favor...i was in the land a few weeks ago....go tell the rock n roll hall of fame they need more Tupac stuff...his exhibit was underwhelming for a new hall of famer
? the R&R HoF. And to not recognize what the other albums have done for the genre is ignorance at best and disingenuous at worst.
Not ranking them at the top doesn't mean they aren't being recognized -
Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
I have ? top 5 and death certificate top 10.....to me the other 3 aren't in the convo for top 5 though
Btw do me a favor...i was in the land a few weeks ago....go tell the rock n roll hall of fame they need more Tupac stuff...his exhibit was underwhelming for a new hall of famer
? the R&R HoF. And to not recognize what the other albums have done for the genre is ignorance at best and disingenuous at worst.
Not ranking them at the top doesn't mean they aren't being recognized
So what you're telling me is all 3 of Pac's albums are more innovative and influential than It Takes A Nation and Paid In Full?
Uh, no. No ? way. Trust me. I like Pac's albums more, but to disregard what others have done for genre of music you love makes you a half-ass fan. It makes you look purposely ignorant and is the base argument for why young hip-hop fans aren't meant to be taken seriously. -
Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
I have ? top 5 and death certificate top 10.....to me the other 3 aren't in the convo for top 5 though
Btw do me a favor...i was in the land a few weeks ago....go tell the rock n roll hall of fame they need more Tupac stuff...his exhibit was underwhelming for a new hall of famer
? the R&R HoF. And to not recognize what the other albums have done for the genre is ignorance at best and disingenuous at worst.
Not ranking them at the top doesn't mean they aren't being recognized
So what you're telling me is all 3 of Pac's albums are more innovative and influential than It Takes A Nation and Paid In Full?
Uh, no. No ? way. Trust me. I like Pac's albums more, but to disregard what others have done for genre of music you love makes you a half-ass fan. It makes you look purposely ignorant and is the base argument for why young hip-hop fans aren't meant to be taken seriously.
I'm saying they are better albums....im not ranking my favorite albums based on influence or innovative....its what I feel is the most enjoyable to listen to
Paid in full is highly influential....but that doesn't mean it's one of the best albums ever...me saying that doesn't mean it's not a classic....you guys gotta realize there's a middle ground to ? ...its not just all great or all trash...thats an asinine way of thinking
I'm also probably one of the older posters on the site -
Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
I have ? top 5 and death certificate top 10.....to me the other 3 aren't in the convo for top 5 though
Btw do me a favor...i was in the land a few weeks ago....go tell the rock n roll hall of fame they need more Tupac stuff...his exhibit was underwhelming for a new hall of famer
? the R&R HoF. And to not recognize what the other albums have done for the genre is ignorance at best and disingenuous at worst.
Not ranking them at the top doesn't mean they aren't being recognized
So what you're telling me is all 3 of Pac's albums are more innovative and influential than It Takes A Nation and Paid In Full?
Uh, no. No ? way. Trust me. I like Pac's albums more, but to disregard what others have done for genre of music you love makes you a half-ass fan. It makes you look purposely ignorant and is the base argument for why young hip-hop fans aren't meant to be taken seriously.
I'm saying they are better albums....im not ranking my favorite albums based on influence or innovative....its what I feel is the most enjoyable to listen to
Paid in full is highly influential....but that doesn't mean it's one of the best albums ever....thats an asinine way of thinking
I'm also probably one of the older posters on the site
My personal top 5, 10, anything, and what I believe to be a true top 5 are inherently different. Yeah, they coincide to an extent, but not always. But when I argue the standard/precedent for hip-hop, in terms of goat ? , I step outside of my personal biases because it gets in the way of objectivity.
Top 5 for me is as much about innovation and influence as it is listenability.
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Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »Like Water wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
Pac is my favorite rapper of all time, but there's just no way he gets 3 of his albums in the top 5.
How can't he? Because you just don't want to give it to the same person? Because all the albums are worthy
Objectively speaking, I don't believe all 3 of those albums are better/more influential/more innovative than It Takes A Nation..., Death Certificate, Straight Outta, Paid In Full, Low End Theory, and ? , which all can be brought up in any top 5 album debate. The only constant being Illmatic.
I have ? top 5 and death certificate top 10.....to me the other 3 aren't in the convo for top 5 though
Btw do me a favor...i was in the land a few weeks ago....go tell the rock n roll hall of fame they need more Tupac stuff...his exhibit was underwhelming for a new hall of famer
? the R&R HoF. And to not recognize what the other albums have done for the genre is ignorance at best and disingenuous at worst.
Not ranking them at the top doesn't mean they aren't being recognized
So what you're telling me is all 3 of Pac's albums are more innovative and influential than It Takes A Nation and Paid In Full?
Uh, no. No ? way. Trust me. I like Pac's albums more, but to disregard what others have done for genre of music you love makes you a half-ass fan. It makes you look purposely ignorant and is the base argument for why young hip-hop fans aren't meant to be taken seriously.
I'm saying they are better albums....im not ranking my favorite albums based on influence or innovative....its what I feel is the most enjoyable to listen to
Paid in full is highly influential....but that doesn't mean it's one of the best albums ever....thats an asinine way of thinking
I'm also probably one of the older posters on the site
My personal top 5, 10, anything, and what I believe to be a true top 5 are inherently different. Yeah, they coincide to an extent, but not always. But when I argue the standard/precedent for hip-hop, in terms of goat ? , I step outside of my personal biases because it gets in the way of objectivity.
Top 5 for me is as much about innovation and influence as it is listenability.
Why would i ever rank something that I don't enjoy as much just because of what it did for the culture....im always going to go off what was influential to me...thats the beauty of music
I can still recognize what other albums did for the culture and still really like the albums but....take early ice cube for example...theres an obvious public enemy influence but I would rather listen to his albums than it takes a nation...so they get ranked higher -
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Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
you just proved my point. i intentionally left pac off the goat albums list b/c it wouldn't be fair to sick him on the east coast again. it's 2017 and they still haven't recovered from the damage he did from 94-96. even with leaving pac off we can still have a debate about which 4 west coast albums are better than anything on @5grand 's ? list and have nonstop material to choose from. anyone from the east coast who is honest with themselves know they cant do the same.
and for whatever it's worth im from the south and my favorite music is west coast ? from the 90s with southern ? from the 90s-00s behind and east coast ? prior to '92 coming in third. we never tripped on that regional bias ? . we just ? with good music down here. outside of dmx and big nothing out of ny was worth listening to after the west coast and southern take overs. dj quik, daz, warren g and dr. dre's beautiful compositions ended that boom bap ? forever. organized noise, beats by the pound, no joe, the neptunes, kanye, cool and dre, dj tump, etc further validated that point. more options and better music rendered that east coast ? obsolete.
Big was more influenced by the west then the east they formatted ready 2 die off ? facts… ny top 5 always go like this big jayz nas x______ x_____ facts… cmon son b ny is done -
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards. You're only argument is Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, 7 Day Theory, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me and ?
Newsflash, all of those albums came out before 2000.
If you want to discuss albums that were released before 2000 we can do that too.
Stop moving the goalpost. -
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards. You're only argument is Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, 7 Day Theory, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me and ?
Newsflash, all of those albums came out before 2000.
If you want to discuss albums that were released before 2000 we can do that too.
Stop moving the goalpost.
Ain't no one moving the goal post....i wasn't talking 2000 onwards i was merely saying you can't act like new York is the only region putting out exceptional music if they don't hold the crown for the top albums ever
Someone could successfully argue kendrick has had the best album of the last 5 years if not the best 2 albums
Plus your list was just a list of 100....most of which weren't classic albums...just anything you could think of -
So what is the debate?
I named 50+ rappers that I thought were dope and I said you could put the rappers I named up against the other 47 states.
Then somebody said it had to be from 2000 onwards, so I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards.
I don't understand what the disagreement is.
Is somebody going to name 50 rappers better than the rappars I named?Jay Z, Nas, Biggie, Wu Tang, Killah Priest, LL Cool J, Dougie Fresh, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Rakim, KRS One, Chuck D, Run DMC, De La Soul, Brand Nubian, Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee, Grandmaster Caz, Kurtis Blow, Spoonie G, MC Lyte, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, Eve, Jean Grae, Remy Ma, Jadakiss, StylesP, Sheek Louch, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, DMX, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, Camron, Big L, Ma$e, Fabulous, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Pharaoh Monch, Prodigy, Guru, Sean Price, Buckshot, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Busta Rhymes, Q-Tip, Phife Dawg, AZ, Immortal Technique, Papoose, Kid Cudi, A$AP Rocky, Joey Badass, Dave East, Troy Ave, Desiigner, Young M.A. and the list goes on.
Is somebody going to list 100 albums from the other 47 states?- Dynasty
- Blueprint
- BP2
- The Black Album
- American Gangster
- Stillmatic
- Lost Tapes
- ? 's Son
- Streets Disciple
- ?
- Distant Relatives
- Life Is Good
- Get Rich Or Die Trying
- Beg For Mercy
- The Massacre
- SDE
- Come Home With Me
- Diplomatic Immunity
- Purple Haze
- From Me To U
- What The Game's Been Missing
- On My Way To Church
- Harlem: Diary Of A Summer
- Hustler's P.O.M.E.
- State Property 1 Soundtrack
- State Property 2 Soundtrack
- Paid In Full Soundtrack
- The Great Depression
- Grand Champ
- Phrenology
- The Tipping Point
- Game Theory
- Rising Down
- How I Got Over
- Undun
- And Then You Shoot Your Cousin
- We Got It From Here...Thank You 4 Your Service
- We Are The Streets
- A Gangster And A Gentlemen
- The W
- Iron Flag
- 8 Diagrams
- A Better Tomorrow
- Supreme Clientele
- Bulletproof Wallets
- The Pretty Toney Album
- Fishscale
- More Fish
- The Big Doe Rehab
- Wizard Of Poetry
- Wu-Massacre
- 12 Reasons To Die
- 36 Seasons
- Only Built For Cuban Linx2
- Tical 0 The Prequel
- 4:21 The Day After
- Rule:3:36
- Pain Is Love
- The Last Temptation
- Blood In My Eye
- R.U.L.E
- Malpractice
- Red Gone Wild
- MTV Unplugged 2.0 (Lauryn Hill)
- Long.Live A$AP
- At.Long.Last A$AP
- B.4.DA$$
- All-Amerikkkan Bada$$
- Art Offical Intelligence: Mosaic Thump
- AOI:Bionix
- The Grind Date
- Yeeeah Baby
- The Naked Truth
- Pink Friday
- The Pinkprint
- Jealous Ones Still Envy (J.O.S.E.)
- The New Danger
- Reflection Eternal
- Quality
- Train Of Thought
- Infamy
- Amerikaz Nightmare
- Blood Money
- HNIC
- Return Of The Mac
- Albert Einstien
- QB Finest
- The Realness
- The True Meaning
- The Testament
- Eve-OLution
- The Truth
- The Reason
- The B. Coming
- Philadelphia Freeway
- Anarchy
- Genesis
- The Big Bang
- Kamaal The Abstract
- The Renaissance
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So what is the debate?
I named 50+ rappers that I thought were dope and I said you could put the rappers I named up against the other 47 states.
Then somebody said it had to be from 2000 onwards, so I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards.
I don't understand what the disagreement is.
Is somebody going to name 50 rappers better than the rappars I named?Jay Z, Nas, Biggie, Wu Tang, Killah Priest, LL Cool J, Dougie Fresh, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Rakim, KRS One, Chuck D, Run DMC, De La Soul, Brand Nubian, Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee, Grandmaster Caz, Kurtis Blow, Spoonie G, MC Lyte, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, Eve, Jean Grae, Remy Ma, Jadakiss, StylesP, Sheek Louch, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, DMX, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, Camron, Big L, Ma$e, Fabulous, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Pharaoh Monch, Prodigy, Guru, Sean Price, Buckshot, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Busta Rhymes, Q-Tip, Phife Dawg, AZ, Immortal Technique, Papoose, Kid Cudi, A$AP Rocky, Joey Badass, Dave East, Troy Ave, Desiigner, Young M.A. and the list goes on.
Is somebody going to list 100 albums from the other 47 states?- Dynasty
- Blueprint
- BP2
- The Black Album
- American Gangster
- Stillmatic
- Lost Tapes
- ? 's Son
- Streets Disciple
- ?
- Distant Relatives
- Life Is Good
- Get Rich Or Die Trying
- Beg For Mercy
- The Massacre
- SDE
- Come Home With Me
- Diplomatic Immunity
- Purple Haze
- From Me To U
- What The Game's Been Missing
- On My Way To Church
- Harlem: Diary Of A Summer
- Hustler's P.O.M.E.
- State Property 1 Soundtrack
- State Property 2 Soundtrack
- Paid In Full Soundtrack
- The Great Depression
- Grand Champ
- Phrenology
- The Tipping Point
- Game Theory
- Rising Down
- How I Got Over
- Undun
- And Then You Shoot Your Cousin
- We Got It From Here...Thank You 4 Your Service
- We Are The Streets
- A Gangster And A Gentlemen
- The W
- Iron Flag
- 8 Diagrams
- A Better Tomorrow
- Supreme Clientele
- Bulletproof Wallets
- The Pretty Toney Album
- Fishscale
- More Fish
- The Big Doe Rehab
- Wizard Of Poetry
- Wu-Massacre
- 12 Reasons To Die
- 36 Seasons
- Only Built For Cuban Linx2
- Tical 0 The Prequel
- 4:21 The Day After
- Rule:3:36
- Pain Is Love
- The Last Temptation
- Blood In My Eye
- R.U.L.E
- Malpractice
- Red Gone Wild
- MTV Unplugged 2.0 (Lauryn Hill)
- Long.Live A$AP
- At.Long.Last A$AP
- B.4.DA$$
- All-Amerikkkan Bada$$
- Art Offical Intelligence: Mosaic Thump
- AOI:Bionix
- The Grind Date
- Yeeeah Baby
- The Naked Truth
- Pink Friday
- The Pinkprint
- Jealous Ones Still Envy (J.O.S.E.)
- The New Danger
- Reflection Eternal
- Quality
- Train Of Thought
- Infamy
- Amerikaz Nightmare
- Blood Money
- HNIC
- Return Of The Mac
- Albert Einstien
- QB Finest
- The Realness
- The True Meaning
- The Testament
- Eve-OLution
- The Truth
- The Reason
- The B. Coming
- Philadelphia Freeway
- Anarchy
- Genesis
- The Big Bang
- Kamaal The Abstract
- The Renaissance
Your naming 100 albums.....most of which are ? ....what are you trying to get at with the list? It doesn't accomplish anything -
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards. You're only argument is Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, 7 Day Theory, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me and ?
Newsflash, all of those albums came out before 2000.
If you want to discuss albums that were released before 2000 we can do that too.
Stop moving the goalpost.
Ain't no one moving the goal post....i wasn't talking 2000 onwards i was merely saying you can't act like new York is the only region putting out exceptional music if they don't hold the crown for the top albums ever
Someone could successfully argue kendrick has had the best album of the last 5 years if not the best 2 albums
Plus your list was just a list of 100....most of which weren't classic albums...just anything you could think of
No one said NY is the only region putting out exceptional albums, and secondly "the top albums ever" is subjective. -
5th Letter wrote: »
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards. You're only argument is Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, 7 Day Theory, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me and ?
Newsflash, all of those albums came out before 2000.
If you want to discuss albums that were released before 2000 we can do that too.
Stop moving the goalpost.
Ain't no one moving the goal post....i wasn't talking 2000 onwards i was merely saying you can't act like new York is the only region putting out exceptional music if they don't hold the crown for the top albums ever
Someone could successfully argue kendrick has had the best album of the last 5 years if not the best 2 albums
Plus your list was just a list of 100....most of which weren't classic albums...just anything you could think of
No one said NY is the only region putting out exceptional albums, and secondly "the top albums ever" is subjective.
No ppl r just acting that way -
After having lived on the East Coast, in the South and now in the Bay Area, East Coast i more regionally biased than the other two. Out here if it's good, ? bumping to it unapologetically .
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Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards. You're only argument is Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, 7 Day Theory, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me and ?
Newsflash, all of those albums came out before 2000.
If you want to discuss albums that were released before 2000 we can do that too.
Stop moving the goalpost.
You said b4 2000 2x in 2 diff ways post 100 cds after 2000 -
So what is the debate?
I named 50+ rappers that I thought were dope and I said you could put the rappers I named up against the other 47 states.
Then somebody said it had to be from 2000 onwards, so I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards.
I don't understand what the disagreement is.
Is somebody going to name 50 rappers better than the rappars I named?Jay Z, Nas, Biggie, Wu Tang, Killah Priest, LL Cool J, Dougie Fresh, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Rakim, KRS One, Chuck D, Run DMC, De La Soul, Brand Nubian, Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee, Grandmaster Caz, Kurtis Blow, Spoonie G, MC Lyte, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, Eve, Jean Grae, Remy Ma, Jadakiss, StylesP, Sheek Louch, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, DMX, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, Camron, Big L, Ma$e, Fabulous, Fat Joe, Big Pun, Pharaoh Monch, Prodigy, Guru, Sean Price, Buckshot, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Busta Rhymes, Q-Tip, Phife Dawg, AZ, Immortal Technique, Papoose, Kid Cudi, A$AP Rocky, Joey Badass, Dave East, Troy Ave, Desiigner, Young M.A. and the list goes on.
Is somebody going to list 100 albums from the other 47 states?- Dynasty
- Blueprint
- BP2
- The Black Album
- American Gangster
- Stillmatic
- Lost Tapes
- ? 's Son
- Streets Disciple
- ?
- Distant Relatives
- Life Is Good
- Get Rich Or Die Trying
- Beg For Mercy
- The Massacre
- SDE
- Come Home With Me
- Diplomatic Immunity
- Purple Haze
- From Me To U
- What The Game's Been Missing
- On My Way To Church
- Harlem: Diary Of A Summer
- Hustler's P.O.M.E.
- State Property 1 Soundtrack
- State Property 2 Soundtrack
- Paid In Full Soundtrack
- The Great Depression
- Grand Champ
- Phrenology
- The Tipping Point
- Game Theory
- Rising Down
- How I Got Over
- Undun
- And Then You Shoot Your Cousin
- We Got It From Here...Thank You 4 Your Service
- We Are The Streets
- A Gangster And A Gentlemen
- The W
- Iron Flag
- 8 Diagrams
- A Better Tomorrow
- Supreme Clientele
- Bulletproof Wallets
- The Pretty Toney Album
- Fishscale
- More Fish
- The Big Doe Rehab
- Wizard Of Poetry
- Wu-Massacre
- 12 Reasons To Die
- 36 Seasons
- Only Built For Cuban Linx2
- Tical 0 The Prequel
- 4:21 The Day After
- Rule:3:36
- Pain Is Love
- The Last Temptation
- Blood In My Eye
- R.U.L.E
- Malpractice
- Red Gone Wild
- MTV Unplugged 2.0 (Lauryn Hill)
- Long.Live A$AP
- At.Long.Last A$AP
- B.4.DA$$
- All-Amerikkkan Bada$$
- Art Offical Intelligence: Mosaic Thump
- AOI:Bionix
- The Grind Date
- Yeeeah Baby
- The Naked Truth
- Pink Friday
- The Pinkprint
- Jealous Ones Still Envy (J.O.S.E.)
- The New Danger
- Reflection Eternal
- Quality
- Train Of Thought
- Infamy
- Amerikaz Nightmare
- Blood Money
- HNIC
- Return Of The Mac
- Albert Einstien
- QB Finest
- The Realness
- The True Meaning
- The Testament
- Eve-OLution
- The Truth
- The Reason
- The B. Coming
- Philadelphia Freeway
- Anarchy
- Genesis
- The Big Bang
- Kamaal The Abstract
- The Renaissance
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Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, The Chronic and ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than anything on @5grand 's list. Whenever your list starts with 5 albums from the least original and biggest bitter ever your list aint ? .
Me against the world, illmatic, all eyez on Me, 7 day theory, ?
New York has strength in numbers and probably more great albums than other regions....but grand likes to act like there isn't great albums from other regions that top many of the top new York albums
Hence the problem with being regionally biased
I listed 100 albums from 2000 onwards. You're only argument is Straight Outta Compton, Death Certificate, 7 Day Theory, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me and ?
Newsflash, all of those albums came out before 2000.
If you want to discuss albums that were released before 2000 we can do that too.
Stop moving the goalpost.
Ain't no one moving the goal post....i wasn't talking 2000 onwards i was merely saying you can't act like new York is the only region putting out exceptional music if they don't hold the crown for the top albums ever
Someone could successfully argue kendrick has had the best album of the last 5 years if not the best 2 albums
Plus your list was just a list of 100....most of which weren't classic albums...just anything you could think of
No one said NY is the only region putting out exceptional albums, and secondly "the top albums ever" is subjective.
But ya are sayin that
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