HBO: The Defiant Ones - Dr Dre and Jimmy Iovine Documentary
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Does episode 3 end abruptly?
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lion_heart wrote: »Does episode 3 end abruptly?
What do u mean? It's an hour long, right before Pac dies I believe. -
lion_heart wrote: »Does episode 3 end abruptly?
What do u mean? It's an hour long, right before Pac dies I believe.
The streams I've seen ends a little after an hour. I'm have to find a better stream online. -
I can't recommend this ? enough. Watched all 4 pts on hbo go yesterday. One of the best docs I've ever seen.
The editing, the sound mixing, the score ...all ? works of art. I even found the Iovine parts interesting. Dude was actually a legit producer with actual hits to his credit. But Dre's segments were the heartbeat of the film.
One of the highlights was definitely watching Dre flip that Marvin Gaye song and how the movie introduces Pac. On some epic intro ? .
At 4hrs long, the movie's very thorough. Even DOC gets his own segment. His contributions to Dr. Dre's post-Ruthless career shouldn't be understated. It makes me wonder how drastically different Dre's future would've been musically if DOC never lost his voice and was able to follow his own ambitions instead of having to just write for Dre. It even shows that he taught Snoop how to write.
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lion_heart wrote: »lion_heart wrote: »Does episode 3 end abruptly?
What do u mean? It's an hour long, right before Pac dies I believe.
The streams I've seen ends a little after an hour. I'm have to find a better stream online.
If it stops after an hour then yeah it cuts off on ya. the 3rd part is like an hour and a half long. -
Yea if u didn't like this ? you're just a weird individual or really hate Dre.
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cool...gon check it out
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Gonna start this tonight.
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I died when Dre was like "... and here comes this stupid muthafucka" when referring to Suge.
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Watched all of it yesterday. I really liked Part 2 and 3.
Was really dope that Dre wasnt the entire focus. I learned a shitload about Jimmy Iovine. didnt know he was involved with all of those artists. -
i gotta watch these junts
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One thing this doc confirmed is Will.I.Am is ? as all hell. Way he was talking and sitting and clothes he was wearing was super duper ? .
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Lou_Cypher wrote: »One thing this doc confirmed is Will.I.Am is ? as all hell. Way he was talking and sitting and clothes he was wearing was super duper ? .
Even the room he was interviewed in was strange as hell
Hes basically the black Mugatu
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soul rattler wrote: »Jimmy Iovine gotta respect the Eloheim
And I'm sure he does all things considering.
Considering he's spent the greater part of his career at Interscope pushing rap acts that are ultimately detrimental to the culture of Hip Hop? -
Lou_Cypher wrote: »One thing this doc confirmed is Will.I.Am is ? as all hell. Way he was talking and sitting and clothes he was wearing was super duper ? .
Even the room he was interviewed in was strange as hell
Hes basically the black Mugatu
Lmao ? . Totally a Mugatu vibe lmao. -
soul rattler wrote: »soul rattler wrote: »Jimmy Iovine gotta respect the Eloheim
And I'm sure he does all things considering.
Considering he's spent the greater part of his career at Interscope pushing rap acts that are ultimately detrimental to the culture of Hip Hop?
Damn so Iovine killed Hip Hop by signing Dre?
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The biggest revelation for me was seeing that it was Interscope's money and NOT Death Row's money that bailed Tupac outta jail. Interscope fronted the money through Suge since they were prohibited from bailing him out themselves.
It makes me question whether this was ever revealed to Tupac, or if Suge allowed Tupac to believe it was his own money that freed him and thus causing Pac to ride so hard for Suge to show his allegiance and start reppin M.O.B. and all that ignant ? which eventually got his ass killed. -
Lou_Cypher wrote: »One thing this doc confirmed is Will.I.Am is ? as all hell. Way he was talking and sitting and clothes he was wearing was super duper ? .
He was mimicking Jimmy's voice the majority of the time he was on there (which was hilarious in itself). I agree that Will probably is a ? tho. -
Stomp Johnson wrote: »The biggest revelation for me was seeing that it was Interscope's money and NOT Death Row's money that bailed Tupac outta jail. Interscope fronted the money through Suge since they were prohibited from bailing him out themselves.
It makes me question whether this was ever revealed to Tupac, or if Suge allowed Tupac to believe it was his own money that freed him and thus causing Pac to ride so hard for Suge to show his allegiance and start reppin M.O.B. and all that ignant ? which eventually got his ass killed.
suge already a villain, but damn he'd have been extra sinister for that -
Stomp Johnson wrote: »The biggest revelation for me was seeing that it was Interscope's money and NOT Death Row's money that bailed Tupac outta jail. Interscope fronted the money through Suge since they were prohibited from bailing him out themselves.
It makes me question whether this was ever revealed to Tupac, or if Suge allowed Tupac to believe it was his own money that freed him and thus causing Pac to ride so hard for Suge to show his allegiance and start reppin M.O.B. and all that ignant ? which eventually got his ass killed.
We wouldn't had All Eyez on me and the Makaveli album if it wasn't for Suge tho.
Those are classics and one of the best albums Hip hop produced. -
bossflossy wrote: »Stomp Johnson wrote: »The biggest revelation for me was seeing that it was Interscope's money and NOT Death Row's money that bailed Tupac outta jail. Interscope fronted the money through Suge since they were prohibited from bailing him out themselves.
It makes me question whether this was ever revealed to Tupac, or if Suge allowed Tupac to believe it was his own money that freed him and thus causing Pac to ride so hard for Suge to show his allegiance and start reppin M.O.B. and all that ignant ? which eventually got his ass killed.
suge already a villain, but damn he'd have been extra sinister for that
All things considering what we know now, nobody would be shocked if he did.
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@Stomp Johnson ....I haven't seen this yet but wow, you and others have provided so many introspective and outstanding observation points this is a must. Dam! Ur post resonated with me. Suge probably (@ Interscopes suggestion) kept it from PAC. I'm quite sure there we're multiple times he could have been informed or some 1 from Interscope saying I bailed u out u owe me! Woulda started a u did what conversation! Neva looked @ it from that angle. Stay Up!
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@Stomp Johnson ....I haven't seen this yet but wow, you and others have provided so many introspective and outstanding observation points this is a must. Dam! Ur post resonated with me. Suge probably (@ Interscopes suggestion) kept it from PAC. I'm quite sure there we're multiple times he could have been informed or some 1 from Interscope saying I bailed u out u owe me! Woulda started a u did what conversation! Neva looked @ it from that angle. Stay Up!
You gotta watch it bruh. It covers so much.
Wrecking Crew
NWA
Ruthless
Death Row
Dee Barnes
Snoop's murder trial
Source Awards
Pac
Detox
etc.
But yeah that Pac ? tripped me out.
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@Stomp Johnson Will do fam. Glad The Hughes Bros. R still putting 2gthr and putting out quality productions.
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Dogowner14 wrote: »Stomp Johnson wrote: »The biggest revelation for me was seeing that it was Interscope's money and NOT Death Row's money that bailed Tupac outta jail. Interscope fronted the money through Suge since they were prohibited from bailing him out themselves.
It makes me question whether this was ever revealed to Tupac, or if Suge allowed Tupac to believe it was his own money that freed him and thus causing Pac to ride so hard for Suge to show his allegiance and start reppin M.O.B. and all that ignant ? which eventually got his ass killed.
We wouldn't had All Eyez on me and the Makaveli album if it wasn't for Suge tho.
Those are classics and one of the best albums Hip hop produced.
Suge bullied himself into being the executive producer he had nothing to do with the creative side, the music would have been made regardless, I do wish Dre stayed with Suge tho suge would have bullied 10 albums out of Dre by now.
