Pete Rock defends ole heads in music and explains why newer artist music don’t get no respect ...
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konceptjones wrote: »Aye new rap ? music is trash . Nothing else to say. I give them all the credit in the world for the hustle and making a single that gets them money but their full body of work is trash. That's today's climate it is what it is shrugs
Actually I wouldn't call it trash. The thing I like about new rap is the amount of sub-bass they use. It kinda puts what cats in New York were doing to shame. Blueprint and Stillmatic are supposed to be 5 mic classics, but production wise, the stuff that Cash Money and No Limit were doing at the time (circa 2001) had more sub-bass.
There's a lot of songs I liked when they were originally released circa 2000-2005, but in hindsight most of the stuff out of New York had zero sub-bass.
These new cats like Lil Yachty have 10X the bass of Blueprint and Stillmatic. I'm not saying he raps better, but he has more bass.
so by that logic you should love old DJ Magic Mike, DJ Fury, Nemesis, MC ADE, DJ Laz, MC Shy D, and a whole lot of other older groups 'cause they got a shitload of sub-bass.
Yeah I can remember when 2 Live Crew, DJ Magic Mike and MC Shy D were out in the late 80s. But at the time I didn't have a proper system to listen to it so I didn't understand why people liked it.
I wish Blueprint and Stillmatic had more sub-bass. -
Why would you add sub bass to The Blueprint which is soul beats?
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Talkin shop with some of y'all ? is like arguin with Siri.
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Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Why would you add sub bass to The Blueprint which is soul beats?
You wouldn’t and that’s why you know he is talking straight nonsense. -
how can Pete be bitter?
he got his money an paid his dues an gets respect.
how is he bitter?
? can't criticize ? without someone using bitter. -
Pete Rock should hit up the younger guys he likes and help them develop. That album with Smoke DZA was good stuff. He's drawing a line in the sand which means less work, less money.
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5th Letter wrote: »? is soft. Old heads used to tell you about yourself and most times it was in a harsh tone. But instead of shutting the ? up and listening ? wanna get defensive.
Idk about this, ? just were more accepting of "harsh tone" back then I guess, a ? come talk to u in a harsh tone right now u just gon shut up n take it? Please lolAye new rap ? music is trash . Nothing else to say. I give them all the credit in the world for the hustle and making a single that gets them money but their full body of work is trash. That's today's climate it is what it is shrugs
There's some good n bad, the balance is great if u look past radio tho, unfortunately a lotta ? complaining are only casual or fake hip hop heads, or stuck on an era that isn't coming back. KRIT n cyhi just dropped bars for years, k dot n Cole came through, it's too much quality out here to b worried about the yachtys n what not, they for kids n white folks anyway -
Pete Rock got a point, but his attitude toward these new ? music and the game is what’s the problem. That’s the reason why most the stuff is trash. And why he don’t have the ability to move the needle in favor of what he want to hear. His brother Grap come from the same Era but I doubt he is as negative towards these new ? .
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2stepz_ahead wrote: »how can Pete be bitter?
he got his money an paid his dues an gets respect.
how is he bitter?
? can't criticize ? without someone using bitter.
He criticizing without without guiding n helping, young ? only know a certain way, how u mad cuz they don't go ur way n u won't even reach out n show how -
How often y'all see Jay n nas complaining out here like that?
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2stepz_ahead wrote: »how can Pete be bitter?
he got his money an paid his dues an gets respect.
how is he bitter?
? can't criticize ? without someone using bitter.
Nope it means you're a hater incapable of evolving beyond your own personal tastes and are not worth debating. You think outside the norm? You get chastized. Whether it's music, sports, movies, politics, social issues or video games. Everything is black and white. There are NO shades of grey. At least according to most of these geniuses here on the IC.
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »? is soft. Old heads used to tell you about yourself and most times it was in a harsh tone. But instead of shutting the ? up and listening ? wanna get defensive.
Idk about this, ? just were more accepting of "harsh tone" back then I guess, a ? come talk to u in a harsh tone right now u just gon shut up n take it? Please lolAye new rap ? music is trash . Nothing else to say. I give them all the credit in the world for the hustle and making a single that gets them money but their full body of work is trash. That's today's climate it is what it is shrugs
There's some good n bad, the balance is great if u look past radio tho, unfortunately a lotta ? complaining are only casual or fake hip hop heads, or stuck on an era that isn't coming back. KRIT n cyhi just dropped bars for years, k dot n Cole came through, it's too much quality out here to b worried about the yachtys n what not, they for kids n white folks anyway
So you didn't have older brothers/cousins/uncles/FATHER/grandfather/old head on your block? When they saw you ? up they would pull you to the side and tell you. But we had respect for people older than us so we shut the ? up and listened. Pete Rock been in the game for over 20 years going on to 30 years, dude knows what he's talking about. -
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MasterJayN100 wrote: »
That's tat EDM ? -
That doesn't matter to an established producer like Pete Rock. He doesn't have to look for work or money like that.Pete Rock should hit up the younger guys he likes and help them develop. That album with Smoke DZA was good stuff. He's drawing a line in the sand which means less work, less money. -
Yo this dude 5 grand...lmaoooooo
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king hassan wrote: »MasterJayN100 wrote: »
That's tat EDM ?
I know im off topic but pay attention....Just like Stephanie Mills Said...R&B went Justin Timberlake..Soon Hip Hop Will go that way also.Black people want to fit in so bad with white folks...we're slowly fading from Soul and Real Hip Hip..To Hip-Pop
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Lmao and JT taking over R&B
But dude got legit hits and I see nothing wrong with Timberlake music -
I feel like if any of these old bitter 90s rappers was to get a song or two on the radio or played in heavy rotation right now they wouldn't have ? to say. They mad cause they washed up.
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MasterJayN100 wrote: »king hassan wrote: »MasterJayN100 wrote: »
That's tat EDM ?
I know im off topic but pay attention....Just like Stephanie Mills Said...R&B went Justin Timberlake..Soon Hip Hop Will go that way also.Black people want to fit in so bad with white folks...we're slowly fading from Soul and Real Hip Hip..To Hip-Pophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZJhGY9jcpw
Stephanie dropped the realness. Thats my girl
