Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time
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Good interview
Cam ego hurt but he gave his side of the story. Was dope hearing the backstory to a lot of things. Cam'ron doesn't even have a sister he said LOLOLOLOL.
I mean Faith said she never slept with Tupac and he still said it in the song.
Dog, not only did Ray-J say he saw Faith in his lap, there was a guitar player who was never famous even stated he saw Faith sitting in his lap. -
Slightly off topic,
but didnt Mad Skillz claim he ghost wrote some ? for Mase on his song "Ghost Writer". The recorded version the names are edited out, but I heard he says the names when he performs the song live in concert and I've heard Mase was one of the names mentioned.....Anybody got info on this?
....No diss to Mase because Mase was ill on the mixtape level b4 he even dropped an album and went commercial, so i doubt anyone could of wrote something for him back then at that stage of his career. -
sion in my city i can meet up with him .Like Water wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Bone thugs >>>> outkast, wu tang and mobb deep
I'm a Clevelander and this is still unequivocally false. False as ? . False. False. False. Wtf, man?!sion in my city i can meet up with him .
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My ? said who ever get juju gona have a great woman he a real ?
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black caesar wrote: »Good interview
Cam ego hurt but he gave his side of the story. Was dope hearing the backstory to a lot of things. Cam'ron doesn't even have a sister he said LOLOLOLOL.
I mean Faith said she never slept with Tupac and he still said it in the song.
Dog, not only did Ray-J say he saw Faith in his lap, there was a guitar player who was never famous even stated he saw Faith sitting in his lap.
Dru down was there wen she came to the hotel and opened the door for her . So pac smash . -
victory_kid wrote: »If this been posted already then pardon me... but Daylyt is a fool for this, super fast with it too.
https://youtu.be/QZr2DRNSyME
Freaky! [Freeky!] She was bad though/
Me and Mase had her in the bando
Cuz ? , you was on the rug ? /
? her on her period, so now you my blood cousin.
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Mase was bigger the first quarter of 98.
By May/Start of Summer 98 X was and was crushing the game down.
Jay started to bubble during that summer too and took over the last quarter with Hardknock Life.
Nore had a smash with "Super Thug" that Summer.
Big Pun was blazing.
Horse & Carriage Was a hit for Cam.
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Mase was the more popular artist of the two until it's dark n Hell it's hot dropped, which I believe was in May. After that, DMX basically became the biggest rapper not named jay-z for the next 2 years. X and 50 took over the game like no other when they dropped, neither could sustain it though. It was impossible really. Them dudes was really the underdogs/ people's champs. Especially X. Dude been putting out trash music for over 10 years n people still rooting for him to win
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What is the mase song when he say u can come all u want all u want gilly was singing it?
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I remember the bad boy wave, ? at school went to meet Puff and ? passed out man cuz Puff signed they album cover man.... I remember when Puff was all on the Godzilla soundtrack and music videos. Ma$e was cool but bad boy and Wu-Tang clan were MASSIVE. I remember when the Wu had their own PlayStation game nuff said.....
Then DMX came out but I remember him mostly in late 98 and 99. In 99 he was EVERYWHERE, X was the new "Pac" but with a whole different style and sound. I thought X was gonna be the biggest artist ever. Jay-Z was coming up heavy too in 99. He became way more noticeable and prominent at that point.
Puff was everywhere. Cosign the Godzilla soundtrack.
Lmao the wu tang shaolin style PlayStation game was my ? . Thats how I learned the wu members names, through that game. -
blackgod813 wrote: »What is the mase song when he say u can come all u want all u want gilly was singing it?
With 112 and Big -
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Charlemagne even started repeating Cam's lingo
"Face fight"
He was clearly Brown nosing. Cam said they see each other in Jersey all the time. -
Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Is it worth interrupting my loop of this Talib and Jay E song to watch this ? ?
Nah finish that first lolol
Cam said he doesn't have a sister and that he's never "dissed" Mase LOL he said he was just telling stories about what happened. Said that Take Em To Church was just stories about what happened and these are childhood stories to him. Said Mase is a liar and lie about a lot of ? . Spoke on the situation with Dipset, the Rucker Park ? , business dealings, said Dame never told him to diss Mase. Cleared up having IBS and dealing liquor. Also talked about Juju he said he never slept with the girl that's beefing with Juju over ? him word to his first son. Said when 50 came at him he was in Orlando because Juju is from there and they have houses there together (I remember years ago Cam said it was because he was tending to his mother who was having health issues but whatever). Said he never snaked the dips. Charlamagne didn't miss a beat he asked him everything he did hold off of dissing him tho.
Sounds like damage control....and in the past he said his mom's had a massive stroke that s why he moved to Orlando....almost at work I'll watch when I get there....they need Mase on there
I'm trying to remember exactly how the mom thing went. He may have said he didn't have time to take care of certain business things (like clearing things for Juelz), because he was in FL taking care of his mom. So he may not have been able to get back to NY because he was taking care of his mom. But that doesn't necessarily mean that's why he originally went down there. -
I'm a Cam fan, I admit that. But I originally thought Mase, had the harder diss track. But after hearing how much may just be completely made up ? , I'm giving him less credit for it. ? his sister that he doesn't have, and has his name tatted on him, which he doesn't.
Cam also had a point that he has 20 years in the spotlight (or at least on the radar), and all Mase can say is super old ? that's been talked about (like the Rucker). While Mase is mostly MIA since way back. -
bow to royalty wrote: »I'm a Cam fan, I admit that. But I originally thought Mase, had the harder diss track. But after hearing how much may just be completely made up ? , I'm giving him less credit for it. ? his sister that he doesn't have, and has his name tatted on him, which he doesn't.
Cam also had a point that he has 20 years in the spotlight (or at least on the radar), and all Mase can say is super old ? that's been talked about (like the Rucker). While Mase is mostly MIA since way back.
You have a point.
Although Cam has been MIA for the past 10 years
Ma$e has been MIA for the past 15 years -
bow to royalty wrote: »I'm a Cam fan, I admit that. But I originally thought Mase, had the harder diss track. But after hearing how much may just be completely made up ? , I'm giving him less credit for it. ? his sister that he doesn't have, and has his name tatted on him, which he doesn't.
Cam also had a point that he has 20 years in the spotlight (or at least on the radar), and all Mase can say is super old ? that's been talked about (like the Rucker). While Mase is mostly MIA since way back.
Bolded is what I said right away when Mase dropped this desperation hail mary attempt at relevancy but I was called "emotional" and "feelings" -
Harlem Hustler.. I can't at all knock it.. But you wrong when you go in the Lords pockets.
Mase showed he does have a spine even if he a slimey ? but the more interesting thing is his approach. He understands that most of today's listeners don't care about the truth(most disses are fabrications anyway)they want shock and awe, its about timing. He mastered it from that standpoint but in hindsight its not as overwhelming as perceived initially. -
We already knew cam would ? mase in the interview and social media parts of this "beef". Those are his strengths. I'm more interested in the music, since we will most likely never get the truth anyways, we rarely do. Sounds like alot of he said she said ? . Mase most likely fabricated some ? . All rappers do on diss tracks. ? really think hov showed nas his "first tech" on tour w large professor. We don't even know if Pac really ? faith. Now ? want diss tracks to be 100% accurate. Bottom line is, cam got bodied by mase, far as the diss tracks are concerned and is doing damage control on some "real harlem ? know whats up" idgaf about all that street ? . All i can grade is the music. ? was dumb to not get that ? mixed b4 putting it out. Sounds like he could've got it mixed n dropped it this weekend.
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bow to royalty wrote: »I'm a Cam fan, I admit that. But I originally thought Mase, had the harder diss track. But after hearing how much may just be completely made up ? , I'm giving him less credit for it. ? his sister that he doesn't have, and has his name tatted on him, which he doesn't.
Cam also had a point that he has 20 years in the spotlight (or at least on the radar), and all Mase can say is super old ? that's been talked about (like the Rucker). While Mase is mostly MIA since way back.
u doin what the djs doin deflecting and lookin for ways to give cam a w. he got to hold this L homie mase got him its ok to admit it without pleas -
its crazy everything cam said was taken as gospel for 20 years now folk wanna dissect mase diss. whats a lie bout cam leavin jim at rucker? true life did slap him correct? cam doin ? buisness deals? cam sending huddy on ? missions ? deep down it seems like cam know or dont have that same confidence/ arrogance he can beat mase bar for bar and its telling
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its crazy everything cam said was taken as gospel for 20 years now folk wanna dissect mase diss. whats a lie bout cam leavin jim at rucker? true life did slap him correct? cam doin ? buisness deals? cam sending huddy on ? missions ? deep down it seems like cam know or dont have that same confidence/ arrogance he can beat mase bar for bar and its telling
Cam said he "never dissed mase" (come on son, ed lover voice) , denies ? juelz over, when Jim Jones confirmed they were ? juelz over in an interview where juelz was present and jim said he felt bad bc he knew juelz was getting robbed. Tru Life did smack up cam on CAMera, but cam wanna focus on blink smacking mase. He is a master deflector, fans need to understand that cam is one of the most media polished rappers and can do the interview thing very well, he seems to come a long way from that Anderson Cooper debacle. -
bow to royalty wrote: »I'm a Cam fan, I admit that. But I originally thought Mase, had the harder diss track. But after hearing how much may just be completely made up ? , I'm giving him less credit for it. ? his sister that he doesn't have, and has his name tatted on him, which he doesn't.
Cam also had a point that he has 20 years in the spotlight (or at least on the radar), and all Mase can say is super old ? that's been talked about (like the Rucker). While Mase is mostly MIA since way back.
u doin what the djs doin deflecting and lookin for ways to give cam a w. he got to hold this L homie mase got him its ok to admit it without pleas
Where did I give Cam a W? I'm just saying the diss isn't as strong as I originally gave credit for. -
its crazy everything cam said was taken as gospel for 20 years now folk wanna dissect mase diss. whats a lie bout cam leavin jim at rucker? true life did slap him correct? cam doin ? buisness deals? cam sending huddy on ? missions ? deep down it seems like cam know or dont have that same confidence/ arrogance he can beat mase bar for bar and its telling
Bruh..
Rucker- talked about to death and 10+ years ago
Tru Life- talked about to death and 10+ years ago
Huddy- dude got in a car accident, what's to diss? And 7 years ago
And it's not a dissection to say Cam doesn't have a sister. That's too big/blatant of a lie to give a pass on. Not like it's just an unconfirmed rumor.
Next beef 50 gets in lemme know how dope it is when he gets put on blast for getting shot 9 times. Or how strong the line is about him getting outshined on his "We are the Champions" verse when he was on Roc a Fella -
Cam saying he never did Juelz ? . Then saying it was 50/50. 50% Def Jam, 50% them. Turned to 25% Cam, 25% Jeulz. I know the music industry plays artists but 25%?
