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  • Tommy Billfiger
    Tommy Billfiger Banned Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Iverson had stackhouse,Tim thomas,larry hughes they were all top 10 picks who were hyped outta college they never became the key piece.Eventually he got Igoudougla,webber then had melo

    Him and stackhouse got into a fight his rookie year

    Cant front that iverson crossover on jordan used to burn my soul cuz he crossed mike ugly but a 35 year old Iverson couldnt stick a 22 year old Derrick rose same thing wit mj and iverson mike was 34 and iverson was 21

    But he did get him,It was still good D by mike but iverson was way to fast
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  • playmaker88
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    yroholla wrote: »
    I think the way Iverson ended his career opened him up to more criticism than he deserved....granted he was stubborn but I don't understand how ppl say he's a ballhog and not a winner but nobody can agree that he never had complimentary player night in and night out who can pick up his slack....

    Jordan had Pippen
    Kobe has Gasol
    Wade about to have LeBron

    Who did Iverson have????

    Its unfair to argue that Kobe and LeBron didn't have a "sidekick" and thats why they never won, but nobody wanna argue in Iversons case smh.....

    Iverson could co-exist with another scorer.. he preferred people with out and ego.. He had 3 point shooters.. rebounders.. defenders.. a team of hustlers.. so he could do his thing. And coaches who loved him and put up with him to a fault..

    They say he is influential.. but his major influences.. were

    his tats.. although he wasnt first..
    his braids.. ..
    his "rapper" eque i dont give a ? perception..
    His sleeve..
    Most definitely his crossover..
    He inspired many people short as hell to think they are him and dribble the ball around aimlessly and go to the hole and get blocked.. because they werent Ai
    He brough hiphop to the game in a bold way.. by his brashness and streetball style
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  • rice n gravy
    rice n gravy Members Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Iverson was the type dude the only way he was going to win was him being THE GUY and a bunch of bench players


    he went to Denver w/ Melo and they got bounced 1st round both years am I right?
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  • yroholla
    yroholla Members Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Tommy Billfiger wrote: »
    Iverson had stackhouse,Tim thomas,larry hughes they were all top 10 picks who were hyped outta college they never became the key piece.Eventually he got Igoudougla,webber then had melo

    Him and stackhouse got into a fight his rookie year

    Cant front that iverson crossover on jordan used to burn my soul cuz he crossed mike ugly but a 35 year old Iverson couldnt stick a 22 year old Derrick rose same thing wit mj and iverson mike was 34 and iverson was 21

    But he did get him,It was still good D by mike but iverson was way to fast


    Stackhouse, Tim Thomas, and Larry Hughes proved even after playing with Iverson that they werent "sidekick" material

    Melo, while still a great player, has shown several lapses in maturity and has yet to evolve as an all around player...

    Its not Iversons fault.... ppl gotta look at the bigger picture....can we really say Iverson had a true great complimentary player??
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  • Tommy Billfiger
    Tommy Billfiger Banned Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    I disagree stackhouse put up good numbers while being a 'sidekick' to grant hill

    They tried to help Iverson its not like he never had nothin.You cant compare every sidekick to havin help like Shaq,kobe,gasol or pippen some people were perfect for their roles
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  • yroholla
    yroholla Members Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
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    Tommy Billfiger wrote: »
    I disagree stackhouse put up good numbers while being a 'sidekick' to grant hill

    They tried to help Iverson its not like he never had nothin.You cant compare every sidekick to havin help like Shaq,kobe,gasol or pippen some people were perfect for their roles

    Despite how well you think Stackhouse played, truth is they never made it far in the playoffs....even missed the playoffs when he scored his career best lol...he never shot particularly well from the field... funny how u say he put up good numbers shootin like 40% from the field but Kobe's a "role player" shooting terribly at 44% lol...

    Fact still remains he never had his true "sidekick"... dont let his ugly departure from the NBA define him ...he was a monster who deserved a ring imo...
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  • Tommy Billfiger
    Tommy Billfiger Banned Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Nobody deserves a ring and kobe shot 36% in the 04 finals while shaq was killin ben wallace thats why I roast kobe thats horrible numbers to put up while you Hog and take shots away from Shaq who had a mismatch

    You also left out the fact that Grant hill wasnt there when stackhouse put up them career best scoring numbers(00-01).I was talkin about the season and half he played wit grant hill he did good and had career high FG % he was Never a good shooter his career percentage is 40

    Pistons never advanced cuz thats when the east was the dominating conference.Its the same as melo,Kg or tmac not advancing past the 1st round for years.They teams werent good enough
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  • playmaker88
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Iverson could co-exist with another scorer.. he preferred people with out and ego.. He had 3 point shooters.. rebounders.. defenders.. a team of hustlers.. so he could do his thing. And coaches who loved him and put up with him to a fault..

    They say he is influential.. but his major influences.. were

    his tats.. although he wasnt first..
    his braids.. ..
    his "rapper" eque i dont give a ? perception..
    His sleeve..
    Most definitely his crossover..
    He inspired many people short as hell to think they are him and dribble the ball around aimlessly and go to the hole and get blocked.. because they werent Ai
    He brough hiphop to the game in a bold way.. by his brashness and streetball style

    ..........
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  • DubbGotti614
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    edited August 2010
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    allied wrote: »
    Greatest little man to ever do it in the NBA. To the guys who said he's not a leader he did get a team to the NBA Finals his MVP year. Dude's an alltime great IMO and he doesn't need to win a 'ship to prove that. Nowadays people get too wrapped up in how many championships you have to try to gauge how great you are; it really only happens when we talk basketball.

    that game was a ? classic the whole entire game. a.i. was shittin on em he had 48 somethin points

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79WSHpMU894
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  • Focal Point
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    He inspired many people short as hell to think they are him and dribble the ball around aimlessly and go to the hole and get blocked.. because they werent Ai

    Lmao that ? is so funny to watch and play against
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  • Focal Point
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    edited August 2010
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    yroholla wrote: »

    he was a monster who deserved a ring imo...

    How the hell you deserve a ring... you earn that ? real talk
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  • yroholla
    yroholla Members Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
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    c1up wrote: »
    How the hell you deserve a ring... you earn that ? real talk

    I think his prime years were wasted away without a true complimentary player imo.... obviously you dont win a ring if you dont earn it... he was just a one of a kind talent, smaller than everybody and actually being the best in the NBA at one point....my overall point is ppl always talk about how their fav player dont have any help and no "sidekick" and its just surprising nobody ever tries to defend Iverson with the same argument...seems like he gets more criticism than he should because of recent events as well.
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  • Darius
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    edited August 2010
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwUUUdW9mKY

    one of my favorite players, but he was one crying ?
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  • Miami6
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    edited August 2010
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS5gBOxhzrQ

    best iverson move ever is when he crossed antonio daniels* TWICE*
    bwhahahhaah..then daniels tried to blame a teammate..look at him...
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  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    U need a specific team to build around ai to succeed.
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  • DubbGotti614
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    Mvpbrodie93 wrote: »
    U need a specific team to build around ai to succeed.

    they needed a big PG at least 6'5 to guard the SG's. two 3pt shooters and a big man with a low post game and a solid bench
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  • Mvpbrodie93
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    DubbGotti614 wrote: »
    they needed a big PG at least 6'5 to guard the SG's. two 3pt shooters and a big man with a low post game and a solid bench

    Exactly

    people act like you couldve thrown any star next to iverson

    here's a team that can win a chip with ai being the best player

    pg-Chauncey
    Sg-Ai
    Sf-Bruce Bowen
    pf-Pau gasol
    C-Mutumbo

    ai can shoot all day he has 3 great defenders around him, pau can be a great post option.
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  • kAjUn
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    edited September 2010
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    my 2nd fav player of all time behind mike of course.............

    i wonder who the short ? got to look up to now..........all the pg's are about 6'4 now lmao..........
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  • Kid Dynasty
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDLnZ01CDvo

    haha he ? dat ? ankles up!!
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  • Hip-Hop One
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    edited September 2010
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    A.I. was great, single handedly took the Sixers to the finals and won game one at the Lakers. He's going to the Hall of Fame. Too bad what's become of him.
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  • Focal Point
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    kAjUn wrote: »
    my 2nd fav player of all time behind mike of course.............

    i wonder who the short ? got to look up to now..........all the pg's are about 6'4 now lmao..........
    shoot with AI at 6ft can short ? even considered him short
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  • rice n gravy
    rice n gravy Members Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭
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    kAjUn wrote: »
    my 2nd fav player of all time behind mike of course.............

    i wonder who the short ? got to look up to now..........all the pg's are about 6'4 now lmao..........

    EarlBoykins.jpg


    cmon son..............
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  • Miami6
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    kAjUn wrote: »
    my 2nd fav player of all time behind mike of course.............

    i wonder who the short ? got to look up to now..........all the pg's are about 6'4 now lmao..........

    brandon jennings.........
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  • Datdude87
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    Miami6 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS5gBOxhzrQ

    best iverson move ever is when he crossed antonio daniels* TWICE*
    bwhahahhaah..then daniels tried to blame a teammate..look at him...

    when i saw that...it was instantly my top 5 fav AI crossover. nnnniiiiicccceeeee
    kAjUn wrote: »
    my 2nd fav player of all time behind mike of course.............

    i wonder who the short ? got to look up to now    ..........all the pg's are about 6'4 now lmao..........
    ...this guy?
    021810_NateRobinson.jpg&t=1
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  • KINGOFDAARCADE
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL8biXfHb-k

    ? stepped over tyronn lue like Lue a piece of trash
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