Why did no one want to sign Jay-Z?
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Jay-Z created his own label cuz no one wanted to sign him. Why? Did they think he was not good enough at the time?
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He didn't really have a buzz or anything in the streets besides Dead Presidents and they thought he didn't have the capacity to go in the general direction at the time. Plus reasonable doubt went double wood.
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It took awhile for people to forget about Biggie's lyrics.
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It took awhile for people to forget about Biggie's lyrics.
Haha good post that and he looks like a camel -
He wanted to much
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nothing was original about the man
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his lyrics was ? . wen he created his label he started jackin ? lyrics
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He didn't really have a buzz or anything in the streets besides Dead Presidents and they thought he didn't have the capacity to go in the general direction at the time. Plus reasonable doubt went double wood.
get your facts straight. jay not being able to get signed was before dead presidents and before reasonable doubt. for the release of reasonable doubt they already had a deal between roc-a-fella and priority records.
why they didn't sign him? I guess because they saw no ability to market dude, his style wasn't what you heard on reasonable doubt when he first wanted to get on. just imagine jay rapping that fast tongue-twist ? on a whole album, he would be gone and forgotten after 5 years. -
alot of companies regret they never signed him now he worth a few 100 million dollars
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He didn't really have a buzz or anything in the streets besides Dead Presidents and they thought he didn't have the capacity to go in the general direction at the time. Plus reasonable doubt went double wood.
'Reasonable Doubt' sold nearly a million and a half copies.
How does that classify as 'Double wood'. -
Most artist in the industry that have had GREAT success have had to make their own way and lane .
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"it took me 26 years to find my path"
I think it's a combo if him not completing finding his style and fully going in the rap ? . Lots of artist get looked over at first, Alicia Keys did, WIz did, Em,etc. -
Cause he's a coontastic euro-pop artist who bites lyrics & looks like a camel?
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He never found his style, hence him hopping on every trend
Start trends buddy, not hop on them. Get it right! -
As a Jay fan . Jay was always good with adapting to what was hot at the time . From Ha remix with Juvenile and even appearing on the Silk The Shocker track. Jay was a good enough rapper and had the savvy to realize that he had associate himself at times to artist that where hot to show that he could change with the specific times . Jay was good at not always using the same type of sounds with his production to be pigeonholed . Some make look at it good some may look at it bad but it was smart
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Jay stole his style from different rappers.
He wasn't original... why sign a fake when you can sign the real.
c/s.
Lol at the 50 year old camel starting trends. -
The Short answer is, he wasn't nice enough. Jay didn't have a rhyme style or the charisma to set himself apart from other MC's. Dame saw that Jay at least had the work ethic and desire to transform himself into a decent MC. And once Hip Hop took the turn to the Big Willie, Crystal popping persona it then made a way for MC's with average skill to enter as, long as they could pull off the Big Willie, Dope slinging gimmick.
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As a Jay fan . Jay was always good with adapting to what was hot at the time . From Ha remix with Juvenile and even appearing on the Silk The Shocker track. Jay was a good enough rapper and had the savvy to realize that he had associate himself at times to artist that where hot to show that he could change with the specific times . Jay was good at not always using the same type of sounds with his production to be pigeonholed . Some make look at it good some may look at it bad but it was smart
Great points. Because, this was a time when many artists had their own in house production (death squad, death row, Boot Camp,Wu and Dungeon Fam) crews and weren't reaching out to various producers to do solo projects. Which, by the way Nas kinda broke that mold with Illmatic and Biggie with Ready Die. Both Albums had various producers who were pretty large at the time. -
Great points. Because, this was a time when many artists had their own in house production (death squad, death row, Boot Camp,Wu and Dungeon Fam) crews and weren't reaching out to various producers to do solo projects. Which, by the way Nas kinda broke that mold with Illmatic and Biggie with Ready Die. Both Albums had various producers who were pretty large at the time.
Jay also began to use Timbo for some tracks when at the time Tim was known more for R&B . He would also thrown a Too Short on a track . Put UGK on Big Pimpin when alot of people outside the south didnt know to much about them . Jay is smart at doing things like that to broaden his audience -
Jay also began to use Timbo for some tracks when at the time Tim was known more for R&B . He would also thrown a Too Short on a track . Put UGK on Big Pimpin when alot of people outside the south didnt know to much about them . Jay is smart at doing things like that to broaden his audience
I don't disagree. However, colabs between artists from various regions weren't rare. Jayz just did it at a time when Hip Hop really began to gain exposure in broader more powerful media outlets. -
he was ahead of his time.
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I don't disagree. However, colabs between artists from various regions weren't rare. Jayz just did it at a time when Hip Hop really began to gain exposure in broader more powerful media outlets.
Not so much they were rare , but Jay was able to do it in a manor where it was commercially acceptable . Gangstar had tracks with Face but it was just a good track on a good CD . Jay was able and had to the exposure so those type of tracks could be heard by the masses -
They thought he was as marketable as a Craig Mack...............
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Not so much they were rare , but Jay was able to do it in a manor where it was commercially acceptable . Gangstar had tracks with Face but it was just a good track on a good CD . Jay was able and had to the exposure so those type of tracks could be heard by the masses
I disagree that his brand was more commercially acceptable. I think the acceptability came from Hip Hop Music as a whole being accepted across major media outlets as, Jayz began to make headway within Hip Hop. Let's not forget there were artists from various regions who also toured together as well. What I am saying is, Jayz didn't event or spearhead production by various Hip Hop producers on solo albums. Nor did, event, spearhead or make acceptable artists from various regions working together. -
The Short answer is, he wasn't nice enough. Jay didn't have a rhyme style or the charisma to set himself apart from other MC's. Dame saw that Jay at least had the work ethic and desire to transform himself into a decent MC. And once Hip Hop took the turn to the Big Willie, Crystal popping persona it then made a way for MC's with average skill to enter as, long as they could pull off the Big Willie, Dope slinging gimmick.
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