NCAA Penalties Against Penn State Thread

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  • WhoisDonG???
    WhoisDonG??? Members Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That cancer hit Paterno at the right time. His legacy he stayed 50 years for just got ? on.
  • smittysmith
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    Hmmmm, honestly it isn't too terrible. Seems to me the NCAA idea was not to completely ? the program but hand out enough punishment for it to suffer until it gets it together for the foreseeable future. They can still bounce back after lets say 10 years.
  • jaemooms
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    Oh well, more recruits for Theee Ohio State University. The rich get richer...
  • unspoken_respect
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    For every child ? , take a seasons worth of wins away.

    I retract this statement, for every ? charge take away a season worth of wins. Pretend its a new program.
  • 313 wayz
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    jaemooms wrote: »
    Oh well, more recruits for University of Michigan. The rich get richer...

    Fixed for accuracy....lol

    But on the real, this makes Big 10 weaker b/c it makes it harder for Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin and others to be considered for a National Championship b/c the selection committee will be talmbout some "Y'all ain't beat nobody plus you guys got some of Penn States transfers (possibly)"

  • Matt-
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    Penn State last won a game in 1997. when one the quarterbacks was Mike McQueary
  • 313 wayz
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    matt- wrote: »
    Penn State last won a game in 1997. when one the quarterbacks was Mike McQueary

    oh the ironing

  • smittysmith
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    Skip Bayless "Penn State did not deserve this kind of punishment!!!"

    Get this gimmick off of TV please!!!
  • caddo man
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    313 wayz wrote: »
    matt- wrote: »
    Penn State last won a game in 1997. when one the quarterbacks was Mike McQueary

    oh_the_ironing.jpg

    LOL!
  • caddo man
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    Skip Bayless "Penn State did not deserve this kind of punishment!!!"

    Get this gimmick off of TV please!!!

    He isnt the first to say this. A lot of people on the rivals boards are questioning the NCAA authority to even punish them.
  • bgoat
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    caddo man wrote: »
    Skip Bayless "Penn State did not deserve this kind of punishment!!!"

    Get this gimmick off of TV please!!!

    He isnt the first to say this. A lot of people on the rivals boards are questioning the NCAA authority to even punish them.

    The didn't have a compliance department. ? if the NCAA really digs into that, them ? would probably get the Death penalty for real.
  • thefabmd2dc
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    Damn they basically set the transferring students up with a nice cushy ride too. There's no scholarship limit to any of the schools they go to.........
  • lamontbdc
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    313 wayz wrote: »
    jaemooms wrote: »
    Oh well, more recruits for University of Michigan. The rich get richer...

    Fixed for accuracy....lol

    But on the real, this makes Big 10 weaker b/c it makes it harder for Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin and others to be considered for a National Championship b/c the selection committee will be talmbout some "Y'all ain't beat nobody plus you guys got some of Penn States transfers (possibly)"

    Exactly. It's how LSU and Alabama can lose 2 games and still pop up in the national championship. It's b/c the overall strength of the whole SEC.
  • dbrazil412
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    matt- wrote: »
    dbrazil412 wrote: »
    what i dont understand, is if you vacate all wins from 98-11, why not also fine them money that was won over those years as far as bowl victories and big 10 titles. would that have been too harsh? or is it even possible to do?

    lol if 60million was their revenue for 1 season, they would be looking at an $840,000,000.00 fine. that would be amazing.


    i'm saying like for just winnings earned from bowl victories. ha idk..
  • themadlionsfan
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    MR.CJ wrote: »
    i know matt millen gon be on espn

    man ? that stupid ?

  • BoldChild
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    Hmmmm, honestly it isn't too terrible. Seems to me the NCAA idea was not to completely ? the program but hand out enough punishment for it to suffer until it gets it together for the foreseeable future. They can still bounce back after lets say 10 years.

    Nah, they killed it, lol.

    After all this is over, who is going to want to play there?

    They will get some people, but the team is going to be wack for a long time...a lonnng time.
  • GettinLo
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    Who are these people???? Someone really needs to tell the Paternos to shut the ? up.
    The statement issued by the family of Joe Paterno in response to the sanctions announced by the NCAA against Penn State:

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    Sexual abuse is reprehensible, especially when it involves children, and no one starting with Joe Paterno condones or minimizes it. The horrific acts committed by Jerry Sandusky shock the conscience of every decent human being. How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report.

    The release of the Freeh report has triggered an avalanche of vitriol, condemnation and posthumous punishment on Joe Paterno. The NCAA has now become the latest party to accept the report as the final word on the Sandusky scandal. The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best.

    That the President, the Athletic Director and the Board of Trustees accepted this unprecedented action by the NCAA without requiring a full due process hearing before the Committee on Infractions is an abdication of their responsibilities and a breach of their fiduciary duties to the University and the 500,000 alumni. Punishing past, present and future students of the University because of Sandusky's crimes does not serve justice. This is not a fair or thoughtful action; it is a panicked response to the public's understandable revulsion at what Sandusky did.

    The point of due process is to protect against this sort of reflexive action. Joe Paterno was never interviewed by the University or the Freeh Group. His counsel has not been able to interview key witnesses as they are represented by counsel related to ongoing litigation. We have had no access to the records reviewed by the Freeh group. The NCAA never contacted our family or our legal counsel. And the fact that several parties have pending trials that could produce evidence and testimony relevant to this matter has been totally discounted.

    Unfortunately all of these facts have been ignored by the NCAA, the Freeh Group and the University.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120723/us-penn-state-abuse-paterno-statement/
  • bgoat
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    The sanctions aren't that bad for a major program like a PSU to overcome. It's the ? image, who the ? wants to play for that?
  • S2J
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    To much to even comment on:

    1) Lol @ 'at least they didnt get the death penalty' Ummm hello......yall r so caugh up in semantics. Sure, PSU doesnt have to sit out a season, but make no mistake about it: this IS a death penalty.

    2) smh @ the diehard PSU fans actin like victims

    3) Desmond Howard said some profound ? : Many people have commented 'why are they punishing the current athletes for past PSU transgressions' well, the current athletes can go, right now. The real victims, couldnt go anywhere
  • S2J
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    aone415 wrote: »
    Who are these people???? Someone really needs to tell the Paternos to shut the ? up.
    The statement issued by the family of Joe Paterno in response to the sanctions announced by the NCAA against Penn State:

    ___

    Sexual abuse is reprehensible, especially when it involves children, and no one starting with Joe Paterno condones or minimizes it. The horrific acts committed by Jerry Sandusky shock the conscience of every decent human being. How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report.

    The release of the Freeh report has triggered an avalanche of vitriol, condemnation and posthumous punishment on Joe Paterno. The NCAA has now become the latest party to accept the report as the final word on the Sandusky scandal. The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best.

    That the President, the Athletic Director and the Board of Trustees accepted this unprecedented action by the NCAA without requiring a full due process hearing before the Committee on Infractions is an abdication of their responsibilities and a breach of their fiduciary duties to the University and the 500,000 alumni. Punishing past, present and future students of the University because of Sandusky's crimes does not serve justice. This is not a fair or thoughtful action; it is a panicked response to the public's understandable revulsion at what Sandusky did.

    The point of due process is to protect against this sort of reflexive action. Joe Paterno was never interviewed by the University or the Freeh Group. His counsel has not been able to interview key witnesses as they are represented by counsel related to ongoing litigation. We have had no access to the records reviewed by the Freeh group. The NCAA never contacted our family or our legal counsel. And the fact that several parties have pending trials that could produce evidence and testimony relevant to this matter has been totally discounted.

    Unfortunately all of these facts have been ignored by the NCAA, the Freeh Group and the University.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120723/us-penn-state-abuse-paterno-statement/

    Its so sad man. Their legacy, last name, offspring, all tainted. And they fightin tooth n nail to prevent it.
  • nujerz84
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    IDK bout vacating wins but the scholarship losses, fines and 4 yr bowl ban is fine by me.
  • nujerz84
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    On a side note maybe Rutgers, Pitt, Temple etc get some of them players lol.
  • major pain
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    Best part of this is Eddie back on top of the all time wins list.