"THE BAD BOY's" DETROIT PISTONS (1986-1992) The Forgotten/Denied Dynasty
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THE DETROIT PISTONS Went to the NBA FINALS 1987-1988, 1988-1989, 1989-1990 lost to the L.A. Lakers in 1987-1988 due to Isiah Thomas injury in game 6 with the Pistons up 3-2 in the finals, with Zeke not at full strength Lakers won in game 7 108-105 and won the finals......... but they came back and won back 2 back NBA Championship 1988-1989 & 1989-1990.
The Detroit Pistons BAD BOYS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4laiUoeOcGAOne of the most hated NBA teams of all times The Detroit Pistons Bad Boy's deserve to mention as a Dynasty and respect.
1987-1988 NBA FINALS, THE PISTONS FIRST TRIP and LOST to the LAKERS IN 7
1988 NBA Finals: Pistons at Lakers, Gm 7 part 1-12
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In sports, time will distance fiction from fact and create a disproportionate view of a team or player. In the case of the Detroit Pistons time, and what appears to be the intentional effort of others, have completely removed the 1989 and 1990 NBA Champions from our collective minds. This removal from NBA allure has denied the Pistons their true place among the NBA's elite.
To say the Bad Boys have been robbed of their well-deserved glory is misleading. Mainly because it implies they once had glory
bestowed upon them, which was never the case. Only losers bask in the glow of a well fought defeat, a winner bears the agony until victory is seized.
The Pistons did not just defeat teams on their way to the crown, they annihilated them, leaving nothing but a trail of dismay and
bitterness from how said opponent was defeated.
In the eighties repeating champions were not the norm, in fact the Boston Celticsrepeated as champions until 1969. It was not until
1988 that the Los Angeles Lakers were able to also claim to be repeaters. 19 years and only two franchises could claim to be repeat title holders.
Detroit did not have a storied history like the Celtics, with Bill Russell and Red Auerbach. The Pistons could not boast of glorious draft picks and NBA Finals defeats, like the Lakers with Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain. The league was owned by the Celtics and the Lakers in the late eighties as the NBA had been for most of its existence, and then came the Bad Boys.
Nicknamed the Bad Boys because of their detail to destruction, the Pistons crashed the Larry Bird and Magic Johnson party that took place in the late eighties. Then the begrudged champions refused to leave the dance floor in a timely manner when it was Michael Jordan’s time to dance solo, which left a plethora of party goers frustrated at what they were forced to partake in.
The Pistons were fearless in their pursuit of a title and were not intimidated by the players who had already achieved what they desired. Detroit’s style of play was called ? by some, aggressive by others, but all will agree it was ferocious. They played every defensive assignment with malice and with the intent to physically impose their will on the opponent.
What has been forgotten, or perhaps ignored was how flawless they were in executing on the defensive end, both as individuals and as a collective unit. Every ball was denied, every passing lane had a hand in it, and every penetrator was proudly pounded.
The pride exemplified on defense was breathtaking. Rarely if ever was there a broken assignment and the numbers reflected their commitment to a unified front. From 1986 to 1991 the Bad Boys never finished lower then third in opponents field goal percentage. Since the league began keeping the statistic in the 1970 – 1971 season no other back-to-back champion can make that claim.
Another testament to their greatness was their lack of star power. The Bad Boys were a collection of grimy small college players who gladly used force instead of finesse. Imagine players from such college powerhouses as McNeese State, Southeastern Oklahoma State, and Hampton University controlling the NBA landscape. Even the players Detroit had from your standard collegiate monsters
would never be considered overwhelming.
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Shouts to the bulls sweepin these ? mf's and ending their dynasty after years of torture my ? slayed the dragon
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Detroit Pistons BAD BOYS fights
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Dennis Rodman was a terrific defender and rebounder who was a physical irritant that would agitate a player until they chose to respond and then that’s when the fun started. Rodman also was a tenacious rebounder who controlled paint not with size but with heart. Standing a shade less than 6’8 it was Rodman’s effort night in and night out that allowed him to compete.
Joe Dumars was the quintessential role player who thrived alongside the explosive Isiah Thomas. Dumars was seen as the good cop to some, but was just as fearless a competitor as the “bad cop”. Dumars took pressure off Thomas in critical spots, with his ability to get to the basket. The shooting guard’s best attribute was his stout defense. Dumars used his strength to neutralize both smaller and bigger guards. The Louisiana native would make the NBA All-Defensive team five times in his career.
John Salley and Rick Mahorn provided defense both above and under the rim. Salley was able to use his quickness and athleticism to block shots and rebound, while Mahorn used his size and strength to manhandle opposing players. Mahorn was crafty and physical.
The worst of the Bad Boys was Bill Laimbeer. The 6’11 center was hated in all continents and some questioned if his mother liked him. Laimbeer was slow and couldn’t jump over a shoelace, but he gave his body up for the cause. For 10 straight seasons “Lamb” averaged nine or more rebounds and for seven of those 10 seasons the center averaged a double-double.
Laimbeer was known to get under opposing players skin and do whatever he could to gain a competitive advantage. The center was involved in at least one scuffle per game and sometimes those scuffles would evolve into a full fledge brawl. Through it all, the center was consistent and reliable, and at the end of the day he was a champion.
The general of the troops was Lord Isiah Thomas. In life strong leadership can overcome weak personnel. This was never more evident than with Thomas’ Bad Boy crew. Every player on the roster had a glaring weakness except for Thomas. Every player on that roster gave something, however, Thomas gave it all. History should remember Thomas as being the single greatest guard of all-time, yet he is an afterthought.
The Pistons were nothing when Thomas arrived; when he left they were considered an elite franchise. Chuck Daly was an assistant from the 76ers who earned his stripes while coaching at the University of Pennsylvania. Daly now rests in the Hall-of-Fame. Joe Dumars was a good scorer and great defender, who might be remembered in the ilk as Mitch Richmond or Alvin Robertson had he not played alongside No.11.
When people ask for the greatest point guards or shooting guards of all-time Thomas’ name is often mentioned after players like John Stockton and Gary Payton, if Thomas’ name is mentioned at all. Thomas, aside from a few documentaries and an occasional mention, is barely discussed. If one were to poll the top players in NBA history Thomas would be somewhere outside of the top 20 on most list.
Lord Thomas is arguably the greatest guard of all-time. Every player who has ever won a titled has had the benefit of another great player, except Thomas. Yes, Dumars rest in the Hall, but what part of his game was Hall worthy. He was an adequate player who benefited from playing next to an extraordinary talent.
In the end all these players walked away unscathed for their impromptu interruption of history. Thomas was not suppose to do what he did. The proper order had already been laid out and Thomas was not on the list. How else can one explain NBA history’s blatant refusal to acknowledge the Pistons reign. Only the Chicago Bulls, Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers and Detroit Pistons can say they played in three straight NBA Finals. The leaders of those units are congratulated what feels like hourly, while Thomas is ignored.
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1988-89 Detroit Pistons: Motor City Madness Part 1/5
Entering the 1988-89 season, the Pistons were battle tested and hungry. They had spent the last few years battling the Bulls and Celtics, and were coming off a 4-3 loss to the Lakers in the NBA Finals. As the Pistons were set to resume the season after the All-Star break, Jack McCloskey pulled the trigger on a surprise trade, sending fan favorite Adrian Dantley to Dallas for Mark Aguirre, coincidently the number one pick in the 1981 NBA Draft. The Pistons finished the season with a team-record 63 wins, including an astounding record of 30-4 after the Aguirre-for-Dantley trade.
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1988-89 Detroit Pistons: Motor City Madness Part 2/5
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1988-89 Detroit Pistons: Motor City Madness Part 4/5
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1988-89 Detroit Pistons: Motor City Madness Part 5/5
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Shouts to the bulls sweepin these ? mf's and ending their dynasty after years of torture my ? slayed the dragon
Good thread tho
@Tommybilfiger as a fan of the Bad Boys i have to give respect to Jordan for taking all those ass beatings that was dished out from the pistons, Jordan took the hits like a man and didnt complain, he just got tried of their ? and start lighting they ? up with 60, 55, 48 outings,lol.....
But Larry Bird and the Celtics ? ? is a different story, those muthafuckas was ? , crying, moaning and ? even Red Aurbauch old ass was crying to the league when the celtics was one of the dirtiest teams in the league.
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Dead@ that Lamb "couldnt jump over a shoelace" comment
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1989 NBA CHAMPS PISTONS
Lord Thomas is arguably the greatest guard of all-time. Every player who has ever won a titled has had the benefit of another great player, except Thomas. Yes, Dumars rest in the Hall, but what part of his game was Hall worthy. He was an adequate player who benefited from playing next to an extraordinary talent.
In the end all these players walked away unscathed for their impromptu interruption of history. Thomas was not suppose to do what he did. The proper order had been laid out and Thomas was not on the list. How else can one explain NBA history’s blatant refusal to acknowledge the Pistons reign. Only the Chicago Bulls, Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers and Detroit Pistons can say they played in three straight NBA Finals. the leaders of those units are congratulated in what feels like hourly, while Thomas is ignored.
The league found it prudent to turn a blind eye to the team from Motown. The league has spent an abundance of money selling the Jordan Dream in hopes everyone would forget the Motown beat down. Interestingly, it is unconceivable to relive the triumph of the only team that defeated Magic’s Lakers, Bird’s Celtics, and crushed Jordan’s Bulls. Rather it seems others have simply discarded them. The NBA has done a tremendous disservice to the Dynasty that was “The Bad Boys”.
They were aggressive but they were also efficient. They habitually crossed the line of physical play but also were had flawless execution on both ends of the floor. The Bad Boys were the epitome of team play which is why they should be celebrated for championships
instead of chastised for their competiveness. Were they overt perhaps, but the docile rarely conquer.
NBA history will tell you the throne went from Bird and Magic directly to Michael and that was not the case. The Pistons ruled the NBA and were not just Sir Jordan's stepping stone. Yes their measures were extreme, but kingdoms are never given they are always taken.
When Detroit took the floor for each and every contest their goal was simple to become champions and they were unapologetic when asked about their “by any means necessary” approach.
To some they were a band of renegades who destroyed the fabric of the game, but in truth the Pistons enhanced it. Hard work can
overtake the most monumental of obstacles. They reminded everyone that talent is given, success is earned.
The Bad Boys should be celebrated for the success they achieved; they conquered the players history told us were unconquerable. Few players can ever claim to have maximized their potential the way the Detroit Pistons did, and someday the NBA will remember them for that feat.
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The 1989 NBA Finals was the championship round of the 1988–89 NBA season. The series was a rematch of the previous year's championship round between the Detroit Pistons and the Los Angeles Lakers.
During the season, the Lakers had won their division, with Magic Johnson collecting his second MVP award. The team swept the first three playoff series (Pacific Division foes: Portland, Seattle, and Phoenix), resulting in a rematch with the Detroit Pistons in the Finals. Johnson and Byron Scott were injured, with Scott suffering a hamstring injury in practice before Game 1 and Johnson pulling a hamstring during Game 2. The Lakers had won two straight NBA championships in 1987 and 1988.
The Pistons had dominated the Eastern Conference, winning 63 games during the regular season. After sweeping the Boston Celtics and Milwaukee Bucks, the Pistons beat the Chicago Bulls in six games, earning a second straight trip to the NBA Finals. In the season before, the Lakers had beaten them in a tough, seven-game series.
The Pistons won the series in a four-game sweep, marking the first time a team (Lakers) swept the first three rounds of the playoffs, and then be swept in the finals.
For their rough physical play, and sometimes arrogant demeanor, Pistons' center Bill Laimbeer nicknamed the team 'The Bad Boys'. The name became an unofficial 'slogan' for the Pistons throughout the next season as well.
Following the series, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar announced his retirement at 42, after 20 years with the NBA.
Pistons' guard Joe Dumars was named MVP for the series.
Before the season began, the Pistons moved from the Silverdome in Pontiac, Michigan to the brand-new The Palace in Auburn Hills, Michigan. The new arena was conceived by Pistons owner William Davidson. The arena would consist of luxury boxes and club seating, which added profits compared to older arenas. The Pistons would sell out all 41 games in the new arena.
The Pistons won 63 games, then a franchise record, which was highlighted by a key mid-season move. The Pistons traded former scoring champion and all-star Adrian Dantley to the Dallas Mavericks for another former all-star in Mark Aguirre. The move would pay off, as Aguirre helped the Pistons win 31 of its final 47 games. The Pistons swept the Boston Celtics and the Milwaukee Bucks in the first two rounds, but were pushed to a Game 6 by the Chicago Bulls in the conference finals before prevailing at the noisy Chicago Stadium.
Prior to the season, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar announced that the 1988-89 season was to be his last. Therefore his 'retirement tour' consisted of pregame tributes in every arena to pay homage to the retiring Lakers captain. The Lakers won 57 games that year, and steamrolled through the NBA finals, going 11-0 in a sweep of the Portland Trail Blazers, Seattle SuperSonics and Phoenix Suns. Magic Johnson won the MVP award that year. Prior to the season, Lakers owner Jerry Buss offered naming rights to The Forum, which was accepted by the Great Western Bank and subsequently renamed the arena as the Great Western Forum, which paved the way to a flurry of naming rights acquisitions in almost every sporting venue in the United States.
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where tha vids of them ? jordan up!
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Detroit stand the ? up!!!!!
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You know why history overlooks them?
They did all that "tough teamwork" and when they got served, they walked off the court like some ? . How many times Magic, Mike, and Bird walk off like some hoes before the game ended? Go ahead. I'll wait.
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The Spurs are a forgotten dynasty imo also.
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KingGivBiz wrote: »The Spurs have a forgotten era imo also.
As long as Duncan is the main guy on that team, the media will ignore them. He is quiet, just like Popovich. They constantly win. You know what you are going to get from them night in, night out. There is no TMZ story there. -
respect to the Pistons
if not for that pass that Bird stole and Isiah injury they would have won 4 chips
only superstar to beat Jordan, Magic, and Bird while in they were in their prime was Isaiah Thomas....the pound 4 pound best PG and he won without a legit offensive big man before Jordan did it.
Isaiah most underrated player EVER....top 10 for sure -
Vinnie Johnson>>>>Isiah
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respect to the Pistons
if not for that pass that Bird stole and Isiah injury they would have won 4 chips
only superstar to beat Jordan, Magic, and Bird while in they were in their prime was Isaiah Thomas....the pound 4 pound best PG and he won without a legit offensive big man before Jordan did it.
Isaiah most underrated player EVER....top 10 for sure
word up, i agree with that, but The Celtics, Bulls and Pistons all cost each other a least one extra wing, The Pistons Stopped Bird from getting an extra ring, that's why he hate Isiah Thomas and broke up his championship caliber Pacers team (a thread is coming on that) and the Pistons stop Jordan Bulls from getting a ring, and then the Bulls stop the Pistons from fighting for a ring.... -
Game 1
June 6
9:00 pm EDT Los Angeles Lakers 97, Detroit Pistons 109 The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills,
Michigan
Attendance: 21,454
Referees:
No. 11 Jake O'Donnell
No. 20 Jess Kersey
No. 14 Jack Madden
CBS
Scoring by quarter: 22–28, 26–27, 18–24, 31–30
Pts: Johnson, Worthy 17 each
Rebs: A. C. Green 8
Asts: Magic Johnson 14 Pts: Isiah Thomas 24
Rebs: Aguirre, Rodman 10 each
Asts: Isiah Thomas 9
Detroit leads series, 1–0
Just before Game 1, Lakers guard Byron Scott suffered a severe hamstring injury in practice. He would miss at least the first two games, and his absence would especially be felt on the defensive end. Magic Johnson had a size advantage, but was too slow to defend against the Pistons' three-headed backcourt monster of Joe Dumars, Isiah Thomas, and Vinnie Johnson. Super-sub Michael Cooper would have to log more minutes than he was accustomed to, and rookie David Rivers was inexperienced. Another option was Tony Campbell, but he played very little during the season.
Without Scott's quick switches and help defense, the Piston guards smoked the Lakers in Game 1. Thomas had 24 points, Dumars 22, and Johnson 19. With six minutes left, Detroit led 97-79 and the final score was 109-97. -
Game 2
June 8
9:00 pm EDT Los Angeles Lakers 105, Detroit Pistons 108 The Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills,
Michigan
Attendance: 21,454
Referees:
No. 10 Darrell Garretson
No. 42 Hue Hollins
No. 33 Joe Crawford
CBS
Scoring by quarter: 32–26, 30–30, 30–28, 13–24
Pts: Cooper, Worthy 19 each
Rebs: A. C. Green 9
Asts: Magic Johnson 9 Pts: Joe Dumars 33
Rebs: Mark Aguirre 6
Asts: Isiah Thomas 7
Detroit leads series, 2–0
The short-handed Lakers snapped right back in Game 2, pounding the boards and taking a strong first-quarter lead. Joe Dumars had a hot first half with 24 points (he would finish with 33) to keep Detroit close. Los Angeles held a 62-56 lead at halftime.
With about four minutes left in the third period, a major misfortune would befall the Lakers, leading 75-73. John Salley blocked a Mychal Thompson shot, which started a Detroit fast break. Magic Johnson dropped back to play defense, and in so doing, pulled his hamstring. Magic was visibly hurt and frustrated, and had to be coaxed into leaving the floor. ? Stockton, commentating for CBS, said, "I've never seen (Magic) look like this!", referring to Magic's look of intense pain combined with resignation.
The Pistons had made the bucket on the break to tie the game at 75-75, but the Lakers, minus Johnson, charged to a 90-81 lead late in the period. In the fourth, however, the Lakers missed three easy baskets and committed an offensive foul as Detroit first tied the game, then went up 102-95. The gritty Lakers charged back and cut the lead to 106-104. The Pistons committed a 24-second violation, giving the Lakers the ball with eight seconds left.
James Worthy, the lone Laker weapon left, drove to the basket and was fouled, giving him an opportunity to tie the game. The 1988 Finals MVP, however, missed one of two, leaving the Lakers short at 106-105. Isiah Thomas then hit two free throws with a second remaining for the final 108-105 score. -
Game 3
June 11
3:30 pm EDT Detroit Pistons 114, Los Angeles Lakers 110 Great Western Forum, Inglewood, California
Attendance: 17,505
Referees:
No. 4 Ed T. Rush
No. 29 Mike Mathis
No. 25 Hugh Evans
CBS
Scoring by quarter: 27–22, 30–33, 29–33, 28–22
Pts: Joe Dumars 31
Rebs: Dennis Rodman 19
Asts: Isiah Thomas 8 Pts: James Worthy 26
Rebs: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 13
Asts: Michael Cooper 13
Detroit leads the series, 3–0
The Pistons had a 2-0 series lead, but knew it would be tough going in L.A. Magic Johnson tried to play, but the pain of his hamstring injury was just too great. He left Game 3 after just five minutes of the first quarter with the Lakers leading, 11-8.
Without Magic, the Lakers made a heroic effort. James Worthy scored 26 points, and the 42-year old Kareem Abdul-Jabbar found the fountain of youth, contributing 24 points and 13 rebounds. Michael Cooper, the last remaining backcourt veteran, had 13 assists and 15 points. But it wasn't enough.
Dennis Rodman, despite suffering from painful back spasms, pulled down 19 rebounds between trips to the sideline for rubdowns. But, the main effort came from the guards. Joe Dumars scored 31, including a remarkable third quarter in which he scored 17 consecutive points (21 in all for the period). Vinnie Johnson added 17, including 13 points in the fourth. Isiah Thomas pitched in with 26 points and eight assists, including six and three in the final period.
The Pistons led 113-108 with 15 seconds left, when Thomas allowed A. C. Green to tie him up and steal the ball. Thomas then fouled Lakers rookie point guard David Rivers, who made both free throws, pulling Los Angeles to within three at 113-110 with 13 seconds left. Dumars then lost the ball out of bounds with nine seconds left, giving the Lakers a shot at the tie.
The Lakers then ran a play where Rivers got free for an open three-pointer in the corner. From about eight feet to Rivers' right, Dumars wheeled and lunged at the shot. Not only did he block it, he landed and saved the ball from going out of bounds. The Pistons then ran out the clock to close the game with a 114-110 win and got on the verge of an unexpected sweep. -
Game 4
June 13
9:00 pm EDT Detroit Pistons 105, Los Angeles Lakers 97 Great Western Forum, Inglewood, California
Attendance: 17,505
Referees:
No. 20 Jess Kersey
No. 14 Jack Madden
No. 12 Earl Strom
CBS
Scoring by quarter: 23–35, 26–20, 27–23, 29–19
Pts: Joe Dumars 23
Rebs: Johnson, Laimbeer 6 each
Asts: Dumars, Johnson,
Thomas 5 each
Pts: James Worthy 40
Rebs: A. C. Green 12
Asts: Michael Cooper 9
Detroit wins the series, 4–0
With the Lakers' backs to the wall, coach Pat Riley admonished his lone weapon, James Worthy, to step up his game. Worthy responded with a championship effort of 40 points on 17-of-26 field-goal shooting with Rick Mahorn in his face every step of the way. But Worthy couldn't do it alone. The Forum crowd was also anticipating Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's possible curtain call. During the pre-game warmups and introductions, Kareem received several well-deserved ovations.
With Worthy playing out of his mind, the Lakers took a 35–23 lead at the end of the first period. Despite trouble at the free-throw line (11 missed), the Pistons began to claw back as Los Angeles led 55–49 at intermission.
The Pistons started fast in the third quarter, beginning with a three-point basket by Bill Laimbeer. Mahorn then scored four quick points, and the Pistons took a 59–58 lead moments later. Dumars hit a driving bank shot, drew the foul and made the free throw, giving him 19 points on the evening. Mahorn followed that with another bucket and the Lakers called timeout. Worthy heroically led the Lakers back into a 78–76 lead at the end of the third, but they knew the Pistons were coming on.
The Pistons took control of the game in the fourth, with James Edwards scoring particularly well. With 3:23 left and the Pistons with a 100-94 lead, the crowd rose to a standing ovation as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar left the game, more a note of thanks than a plea for a miracle. For the next two minutes, it seemed nobody wanted to hit a shot. Abdul-Jabbar re-entered the game and spun and hit a bank shot with 1:37 left, his last two NBA points, cutting the Pistons' margin to 100–96. Kareem went out of the game with 47 seconds remaining amid thunderous applause.
Laimbeer hit a jumper at the 28-second mark, and the Pistons began celebrating. Riley sent Abdul-Jabbar back in after the timeout, but Michael Cooper missed a three-pointer and Isiah Thomas was fouled. Riley then sent Orlando Woolridge in for "the Captain", this time for good. The hobbled Magic Johnson came out to meet him amid the crowd's warm applause. The Pistons, in a show of sportsmanship, all came to the floor and faced the Laker bench to join in. Thomas then hit the foul shots, essentially closing out the 105–97 win and the championship. Joe Dumars was named Finals MVP.
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Detroit stay getting disrespected. MJ said Dumars guarded him the hardest... Isiah is top 3 point guard top me behind Magic and Oscar. Watching the soft NBA today makes u respect them and the Knicks of yesteryear back body dropping and clotheslining ? trying to get to the rim. many a fight with no suspensions or ejections..... just break it up and back to the game.... James Edwards was another ? ? on their team. Vinny Johnson used to chop coming off the bench
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Detroit stay getting disrespected. MJ said Dumars guarded him the hardest... Isiah is top 3 point guard top me behind Magic and Oscar. Watching the soft NBA today makes u respect them and the Knicks of yesteryear back body dropping and clotheslining ? trying to get to the rim. many a fight with no suspensions or ejections..... just break it up and back to the game.... James Edwards was another ? ? on their team. Vinny Johnson used to chop coming off the bench
word the days of the Bad Boys, 90's Knicks, Pacers and Heat teams is long gone, the Isiah thomas Pacers was last of a dying breed. And i agree ZEKE is the third greatest point guard in NBA History...
And James Edwards old ass was no joke, lol.. the microwave used to come in hot of the bench being cold and light the other team ? up, they didnt call him microwave for nothing -
Detroit stay getting disrespected. MJ said Dumars guarded him the hardest... Isiah is top 3 point guard top me behind Magic and Oscar. Watching the soft NBA today makes u respect them and the Knicks of yesteryear back body dropping and clotheslining ? trying to get to the rim. many a fight with no suspensions or ejections..... just break it up and back to the game.... James Edwards was another ? ? on their team. Vinny Johnson used to chop coming off the bench
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I'mma be str8 up, I couldn't stand The Bad Boyz!
My mom was a Isiah fan because she is from Michigan, anytime The Bulls played The Pistons she would talk ? to me and my dad cause we were MJ fans.
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aint Isiah from the Chi though?
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yup he from the gutter of da Chi but these ? put him down in order to boost mike Jordan up. they had no father figures
