Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'
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There's only bout 3-4 tracks that are dope from jump in here. I'll listen again soon.
I'm not really feeling the beat selection, this ? sound a little like It and Yeezus were recorded around the same time but Hov put a little more effort
my ears don't bleed when I listen to this album bruh.
yeezus was some other ? . the volume has to be turned down just to be cautious
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Yeezus is terrible i agree but his sounds like it would have been too if not or Jay's charisma and lyrics.
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Damn sales projections upped to 450-500k. Hov stay winning...
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1569417/jay-zs-magna-carta-album-sales-forecast-grows-to-450-500000 -
this sh*t is fire, front to back.
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fortyacres&amule wrote: »AG is Jay Z's second best album IMO , its the sequel to RD
With its production (I guess) influenced by the first Blueprint album, but more sonic sounding this time .. . -
gocanucks1916 wrote: »Damn sales projections upped to 450-500k. Hov stay winning...
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1569417/jay-zs-magna-carta-album-sales-forecast-grows-to-450-500000
so even without the Samsung deal jay would've done his average first week numbersJay-Z in his own words:
"Right now i have it at #4, but ya know, its fresh, so that can change."
You can take that to mean it can go UP and pass RD, BP, and BA (he's not stupid)
Or it means even he admits once the newness wears off, he'll come down to earth. Just like I've been sayin.
......or maybe he really feels it's his fourth best album
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This review video is real interesting to me .... It kind of sums up a lot of the discussion this album has sparked ...
The ? on the right is clearly a "Jigga Warrior" and he in that thang fighting for his life against his homies ... Lol
But the telling thing in this video to me would have to be Kinge & Myke ... To me they epitomize the disgruntled and disenfranchised Jay fan who would rather boggle their minds with confusion and overcomplication rather than to simply just allow the artist to be in the moment and judge the music off of that..
I mean just look at what Myke says (paraphrasing)
"yeah you know that Picaso ? I was getting into ... I was liking the way he was flipping the artist names and the energy........................................but then I realized its just more money talk!! ............. I ain't feelin it no mo"
Might as well have said..
"That ? jigga alllllllllmost got me!"
Lol.. it's like the ? went all out of his way to find a reason to basically force himself to stop liking what he naturally felt was dope ... Same bizarre thing I see with some comments on here "yeah that line is witty it's clever.......but these lyrics are WACK ? fell off!" Lol ... ? are literally trying to find anything to critique ... Not saying the album is perfect by any means but that whole mentality and type of hyper criticism (without being able to appreciate the redeeming qualities of a project) is funny to me -
Jay-Z in his own words:
"Right now i have it at #4, but ya know, its fresh, so that can change."
You can take that to mean it can go UP and pass RD, BP, and BA (he's not stupid)
Or it means even he admits once the newness wears off, he'll come down to earth. Just like I've been sayin.
You can say this album damn near every new album that comes out, everyone always overreacts to everything, so he didn't say anything profound there... -
marcusgarvey wrote: »Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG
I just think those albums were more street oriented (as a whole) and that's why some will gravitate to them more
Cos those albums both have some valleys .. -
You can take that to mean it can go UP and pass RD, BP, and BA (he's not stupid)
no. that will never happen. -
? asked if I was ?
? I'm supposed to say no?
You already seen me turn a man to a G.O.A.T.
You already know what I could do with the coke
Dropped it in the water, made it disappear
I made it reappear, I had that ? on a rope
Tough Bars right there -
AG, BP, MCHG....eh MAYBE TBA.
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it took me a min to like late registration too. as for Jay I've learned not to doubt him. when I heard the snipplets of ag I was like ? give be wack, got the album and was blown away. that was a nice reminder not to doubt jay.
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marcusgarvey wrote: »Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG
MCHG is easily than both those albums. MCHG has no bad songs on it imo, Vol 1 clearly has three (Sunshine, What girls like and Face off) and American Gangster is dope, it lacks the entertainment and balance than MCHG has.
Entertainment don't stick as much long term. Its just prisoner of the moment talk
I can bet money in 3,4 months i won't be listening to many of these songs. And not b/c their bad songs, but b/c once the thrill wears off, and there's no real lyrical depth to go back and 'vibe ' to....you gon be onto the next one. For example, when was the last time you proactively searchd and just HAD to listen to...On To the Next oNe?
On the flipside, I'll pop in Sweet, No Hook, Lucky Me, Imaginary Player, You must Love me, etc all the time just to listen to the deep ? he was sayin. This album doesnt have that as much, not even close.Another thing with Jay-z albums is ? always overreact and don't let his ? soak in. To me rappers like Jay and Lupe takes some time to get the subtle ? they say because they layer their albums with so much below the surface ? .
Cmon man, you know beter than to lump old jay z albums with the new. He is not as layered lyrically as he used to be.marcusgarvey wrote: »Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG
You won't be listening to it and probably the rest of this board, but we all know this site is a niche site with niche fans with a specific taste, more than likely this album will ride out commercially and pop culture wise for the rest of the year.
Ya'll seem to think ya'll opinion are truly a reflection of the mass public. Ya'll ran off at the mouth about the same ? on BP3 and what happen, the most successful album of Jay-z career in total.
Heaven, Nickle and Dime,etc are just as deep if not deeper than any of that ? you just listed. -
Which ones?American Gangster to me is his best album post-'retirement' .. And I still think its a good and not a great album
Nice smooth beats, crafty bars/rhymes and the theme/concepts with the film of the same name ..
That's the thing with Jay though, he kinda always makes you go back to appreciate his old stuff when the new music is lacking
I don't need to listen to an album more than once to "feel" it. ..
I've just saved 3 or 4 songs from MCHG - the rest have been recycled
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marcusgarvey wrote: »Album ain't better than Vol 1 or AG
MCHG is easily than both those albums. MCHG has no bad songs on it imo, Vol 1 clearly has three (Sunshine, What girls like and Face off) and American Gangster is dope, it lacks the entertainment and balance than MCHG has.
Sunshine and what girls like are duds but the songs that were good on the album >
Tom Ford is embarrassing, La Familia is embarrassing. Part II i can do without, Holy grail same. I listened to it straight for a week. Maybe I'll feel
Different in a few more rotations. The best on the album can't ? with a million and one questions, you must love me, where I'm from, imaginary player, lucky me. Maybe it's the when I was younger syndrome I dunno -
Someone pass me a link?
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Sunshine wasnt even a bad song the video was just that bad
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So he really did a dis record on Harry Belafonte? Lol this ? weird, well at least he said his name
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So he really did a dis record on Harry Belafonte? Lol this ? weird, well at least he said his name
Yeah I have to agree, the blatant disrespect for an elder, community activist, civil rights leader, one of the great black performers was disgusting.... -
Jay was supposed to let Belafonte's comments rock?
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IceBergTaylor wrote: »Jay was supposed to let Belafonte's comments rock?
Could have found a better outlet to articulate than making a winey song and using words like "boy". It was a low point on the album. -
damn buttuh you've hardly said a word about this album. Usually you're one of jay's most vocal critics on here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMmremi_iJA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUwNzLpk33dblyY2Gg-SyPxw
