Biggie's Murderer Found! (LAPD Dective Tells All)
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Biggie would be alive if 2pac would still be alive.
People had too much love for Pac to let Biggie live -
I like some of Pac's song when he was signed to Death Row. However, I just wished he would have did his jail time. Then he would probably still be alive today if he didn't sign with Suge.
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A lot of fallacies in this thread.
The tracks for R U Still Down was completed in 94 and originally suppose to come in December 95' under Interscope as a way for them to make money off Pac while he was in jail. Pac got out of jail early and signed to Death Row, so they shelved the album. But the album was mastered and ready to go as confirmed by the engineers who worked on it.
Khadifi, was accidentally killed by Napoleons cousin. Yes, unfortunately coincidences happen sometimes.
None of the Outlawz, Pac's family, and Afeni believe that he was set up by Suge, they all believe that he was killed on some "regular ? " ? . That's a theory that's mostly believed by outsiders.
Frank Alexender doesn't believe that Suge had anything to do with it.
Pac owed DR two more albums. He wasn't going anywhere. All Eyes on Me is only counted as two albums by the RIAA because it exceeded 100 minutes, that has nothing to do with how Interscope counted it.
Pac was out on appeal and Death Row was paying ALL of his legal fees to keep him free. Without DR, he would've went back to jail. He fired David Kenner but they hired Johny Cochran for him during his 96' case. They were also providing him with protection that he needed since he made so many enemies. DR also took care if his family by buying them that mansion, and Pac was all about taking care his family. With Death Row, he had almost unlimited resources at his disposal to have the success he craved since he first came into the game. He was spending crazzzzy money on DR's tab. Who do you think paid for all of that studio time, stylist, 12 videos, an expensive double album, 3 unrealesed albums, security, producers, flying in other rappers like Boot Camp Click, etc. people in the DR camp have talked about how Suge started building DR around Pac and putting more money into him. Why would Pac leave? Pac wasn't going to severe ties with Suge completely, he was going to start his own imprint under DR, similar to what Snoop was also doing on the label (Dogg Pound). Pac said it out of his own mouth in that Sway interview. It's not unusual for an artist to run into issues with royalties before they actually receive them.
How could Pac say "he was a dead man walking" on the flight to Vegas when he didn't even fly to Vegas? Pac drove with Kadiada and a few others and meet up with Suge at Vegas.
How do we know that it was the first time Suge ordered his security not to carry guns that night?
If Suge was that much of a mastermind then I believe he would've found a more efficient manner of killing Pac. He really went about it in a Wylie Coyote type of way. Why in the world would he fight in a crowded casino the night he has to pull off his master hit, wouldn't he want to lay low? And even if he placed Orlando Anderson in that casino lobby as a patsy, how did he know that Pac was going to dash off to Anderson and punch him after Babe Lane whispered to Pac "that's the dude who stole my chain 4 months ago"? What if Pac didn't react? Idk, too many holes in the Suge theory.
Finally, someone with some sense -
couldve sworn da killa ? was sketched to look like dis
Damn so they thought Leon killed Big
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Good job Poochie!
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? ?......GorillaWitAttitude wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »No offense bruh but we been knew that. These ? cops never gave a damn
Oh okay didn't know. It just popped up this morning while I was reading some wrestling rumors.
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GorillaWitAttitude wrote: »I like some of Pac's song when he was signed to Death Row. However, I just wished he would have did his jail time. Then he would probably still be alive today if he didn't sign with Suge.
Would you have spent 4 years in jail for a crime you didn't do, while your family needs money? Pac did the right thing by signing to Suge, he made bad choices after he got out of jail though. -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »
? ?......GorillaWitAttitude wrote: »Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »No offense bruh but we been knew that. These ? cops never gave a damn
Oh okay didn't know. It just popped up this morning while I was reading some wrestling rumors.
411mania and I hardly watch wrestling. -
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GorillaWitAttitude wrote: »I like some of Pac's song when he was signed to Death Row. However, I just wished he would have did his jail time. Then he would probably still be alive today if he didn't sign with Suge.
Would you have spent 4 years in jail for a crime you didn't do, while your family needs money? Pac did the right thing by signing to Suge, he made bad choices after he got out of jail though.
No, but I wouldn't have wanted to hang with the wrong group of people either. Like I said I would have just done my time and come out with a fresh start. -
GorillaWitAttitude wrote: »GorillaWitAttitude wrote: »I like some of Pac's song when he was signed to Death Row. However, I just wished he would have did his jail time. Then he would probably still be alive today if he didn't sign with Suge.
Would you have spent 4 years in jail for a crime you didn't do, while your family needs money? Pac did the right thing by signing to Suge, he made bad choices after he got out of jail though.
No, but I wouldn't have wanted to hang with the wrong group of people either. Like I said I would have just done my time and come out with a fresh start.
It's easy to say that now that we know how everything played out, but I'm sure it seemed like a great deal at the time.
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »Sounds like bulllshit. After all of these years Cease and everyone else said it was the Amir guy who looked like he was apart of the NOI. All of a sudden the LAPD says that this guy did it, and it just so happens that he's dead? Yeah ok.
Bruh please read the entire article before you comment.
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A lot of fallacies in this thread.
The tracks for R U Still Down was completed in 94 and originally suppose to come in December 95' under Interscope as a way for them to make money off Pac while he was in jail. Pac got out of jail early and signed to Death Row, so they shelved the album. But the album was mastered and ready to go as confirmed by the engineers who worked on it.
Khadifi, was accidentally killed by Napoleons cousin. Yes, unfortunately coincidences happen sometimes.
None of the Outlawz, Pac's family, and Afeni believe that he was set up by Suge, they all believe that he was killed on some "regular ? " ? . That's a theory that's mostly believed by outsiders.
Frank Alexender doesn't believe that Suge had anything to do with it.
Pac owed DR two more albums. He wasn't going anywhere. All Eyes on Me is only counted as two albums by the RIAA because it exceeded 100 minutes, that has nothing to do with how Interscope counted it.
Pac was out on appeal and Death Row was paying ALL of his legal fees to keep him free. Without DR, he would've went back to jail. He fired David Kenner but they hired Johny Cochran for him during his 96' case. They were also providing him with protection that he needed since he made so many enemies. DR also took care if his family by buying them that mansion, and Pac was all about taking care his family. With Death Row, he had almost unlimited resources at his disposal to have the success he craved since he first came into the game. He was spending crazzzzy money on DR's tab. Who do you think paid for all of that studio time, stylist, 12 videos, an expensive double album, 3 unrealesed albums, security, producers, flying in other rappers like Boot Camp Click, etc. people in the DR camp have talked about how Suge started building DR around Pac and putting more money into him. Why would Pac leave? Pac wasn't going to severe ties with Suge completely, he was going to start his own imprint under DR, similar to what Snoop was also doing on the label (Dogg Pound). Pac said it out of his own mouth in that Sway interview. It's not unusual for an artist to run into issues with royalties before they actually receive them.
How could Pac say "he was a dead man walking" on the flight to Vegas when he didn't even fly to Vegas? Pac drove with Kadiada and a few others and meet up with Suge at Vegas.
How do we know that it was the first time Suge ordered his security not to carry guns?
If Suge was that much of a mastermind then I believe he would've found a more efficient way of killing Pac. He really went about it in a Wylie Coyote type of way. Why in the world would he fight in a crowded casino the night he has to pull off his master hit, wouldn't he want to lay low? What if the cops showed up, that would've put a dent in the plan. And even if he placed Orlando Anderson in that casino lobby as a patsy, how did he know that Pac was going to dash off to Anderson and punch him after Babe Lane whispered to Pac "that's the dude who stole my chain 4 months ago"? What if Pac didn't react? Idk, too many holes in the Suge theory.
You talk a lot of sense in this post dude. People like to paint suge as some mastermind ignoring the fact he's barely literate. -
A lot of fallacies in this thread.
The tracks for R U Still Down was completed in 94 and originally suppose to come in December 95' under Interscope as a way for them to make money off Pac while he was in jail. Pac got out of jail early and signed to Death Row, so they shelved the album. But the album was mastered and ready to go as confirmed by the engineers who worked on it.
Khadifi, was accidentally killed by Napoleons cousin. Yes, unfortunately coincidences happen sometimes.
None of the Outlawz, Pac's family, and Afeni believe that he was set up by Suge, they all believe that he was killed on some "regular ? " ? . That's a theory that's mostly believed by outsiders.
Frank Alexender doesn't believe that Suge had anything to do with it.
Pac owed DR two more albums. He wasn't going anywhere. All Eyes on Me is only counted as two albums by the RIAA because it exceeded 100 minutes, that has nothing to do with how Interscope counted it.
Pac was out on appeal and Death Row was paying ALL of his legal fees to keep him free. Without DR, he would've went back to jail. He fired David Kenner but they hired Johny Cochran for him during his 96' case. They were also providing him with protection that he needed since he made so many enemies. DR also took care if his family by buying them that mansion, and Pac was all about taking care his family. With Death Row, he had almost unlimited resources at his disposal to have the success he craved since he first came into the game. He was spending crazzzzy money on DR's tab. Who do you think paid for all of that studio time, stylist, 12 videos, an expensive double album, 3 unrealesed albums, security, producers, flying in other rappers like Boot Camp Click, etc. people in the DR camp have talked about how Suge started building DR around Pac and putting more money into him. Why would Pac leave? Pac wasn't going to severe ties with Suge completely, he was going to start his own imprint under DR, similar to what Snoop was also doing on the label (Dogg Pound). Pac said it out of his own mouth in that Sway interview. It's not unusual for an artist to run into issues with royalties before they actually receive them.
How could Pac say "he was a dead man walking" on the flight to Vegas when he didn't even fly to Vegas? Pac drove with Kadiada and a few others and meet up with Suge at Vegas.
How do we know that it was the first time Suge ordered his security not to carry guns?
If Suge was that much of a mastermind then I believe he would've found a more efficient way of killing Pac. He really went about it in a Wylie Coyote type of way. Why in the world would he fight in a crowded casino the night he has to pull off his master hit, wouldn't he want to lay low? What if the cops showed up, that would've put a dent in the plan. And even if he placed Orlando Anderson in that casino lobby as a patsy, how did he know that Pac was going to dash off to Anderson and punch him after Babe Lane whispered to Pac "that's the dude who stole my chain 4 months ago"? What if Pac didn't react? Idk, too many holes in the Suge theory.
You talk a lot of sense in this post dude. People like to paint suge as some mastermind ignoring the fact he's barely literate.
Yeah, he couldn't have been that much of a mastermind if he pulled off a master hit, only to go to jail for throwing a kick during the fight that happened hours prior to the hit. -
A lot of fallacies in this thread.
The tracks for R U Still Down was completed in 94 and originally suppose to come in December 95' under Interscope as a way for them to make money off Pac while he was in jail. Pac got out of jail early and signed to Death Row, so they shelved the album. But the album was mastered and ready to go as confirmed by the engineers who worked on it.
Khadifi, was accidentally killed by Napoleons cousin. Yes, unfortunately coincidences happen sometimes.
None of the Outlawz, Pac's family, and Afeni believe that he was set up by Suge, they all believe that he was killed on some "regular ? " ? . That's a theory that's mostly believed by outsiders.
Frank Alexender doesn't believe that Suge had anything to do with it.
Pac owed DR two more albums. He wasn't going anywhere. All Eyes on Me is only counted as two albums by the RIAA because it exceeded 100 minutes, that has nothing to do with how Interscope counted it.
Pac was out on appeal and Death Row was paying ALL of his legal fees to keep him free. Without DR, he would've went back to jail. He fired David Kenner but they hired Johny Cochran for him during his 96' case. They were also providing him with protection that he needed since he made so many enemies. DR also took care if his family by buying them that mansion, and Pac was all about taking care his family. With Death Row, he had almost unlimited resources at his disposal to have the success he craved since he first came into the game. He was spending crazzzzy money on DR's tab. Who do you think paid for all of that studio time, stylist, 12 videos, an expensive double album, 3 unrealesed albums, security, producers, flying in other rappers like Boot Camp Click, etc. people in the DR camp have talked about how Suge started building DR around Pac and putting more money into him. Why would Pac leave? Pac wasn't going to severe ties with Suge completely, he was going to start his own imprint under DR, similar to what Snoop was also doing on the label (Dogg Pound). Pac said it out of his own mouth in that Sway interview. It's not unusual for an artist to run into issues with royalties before they actually receive them.
How could Pac say "he was a dead man walking" on the flight to Vegas when he didn't even fly to Vegas? Pac drove with Kadiada and a few others and meet up with Suge at Vegas.
How do we know that it was the first time Suge ordered his security not to carry guns?
If Suge was that much of a mastermind then I believe he would've found a more efficient way of killing Pac. He really went about it in a Wylie Coyote type of way. Why in the world would he fight in a crowded casino the night he has to pull off his master hit, wouldn't he want to lay low? What if the cops showed up, that would've put a dent in the plan. And even if he placed Orlando Anderson in that casino lobby as a patsy, how did he know that Pac was going to dash off to Anderson and punch him after Babe Lane whispered to Pac "that's the dude who stole my chain 4 months ago"? What if Pac didn't react? Idk, too many holes in the Suge theory.
You talk a lot of sense in this post dude. People like to paint suge as some mastermind ignoring the fact he's barely literate.
Being Literate has nothing at all to do with being able to plot schemes. You don't have to read a book to plot on a ? and do dirt. Still i don't think Suge was involved. -
Young Poochie good work
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I heard it was stitches who killed biggie AND pac, while he was on a coke binge
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Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »Admittedly I don't know much about the business part of hip hop but I remember hearing before that aeom was only counted as one album on his contract, makaveli was going to be 2, and r u still down(going to be a r&b vibe type album, i.e the tongue kissing track) would've been his last and one nation was going to be released under makaveli records and duckdown.
Just to add my two cents. R U Still Down was all stuff recorded before he signed with Death Row, that album wouldn't have counted towards his contract.
All Eyes On Me would have counted as 2 records, Makavelli would have counted as a third and he had 67 more songs in a vault when he passed. He had recorded enough material to fulfill his contract. But some of those 67 songs were unfinished.
who said 67? and how many of those have been released?
Well right after Tupac died I was living in NYC and one of my homies was from LA. He was studying at Columbia University. He was a Tupac stan. He knew all the trivia and was always bumping Tupac whenever we had a get together at his crib. Anyway, he's the one who said Pac died with 67 songs in a vault. But also, if you go to a torrent site where they have the Makavelli series there's around 67 songs. Last but not least, if you count the songs on Until The End Of Time, Loyal To The Game and Pac's Life it adds up to around 67 (there's remixes that mess up the count. Do you you count a remix as a song or two songs?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK9BAiiCqfI
