Twista Admits To Using Ghostwriters
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J.J._Evans wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »J.J._Evans wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Stop trying to make this ghostwriting ? happen; it's not going to happen.
You ? ? know what the difference is between the chorus and actual bars.
Ya'll want the game to be bubblegum pop sooooooo bad.
We had to accept wack ? a decade ago, now they want us to accept rappers that use ghostwriters smh.
Unless you're Diddy, Dre, Drake, Eazy E and people of that ilk you will lose credibility instantly.
LOL....you know damn well Drake doesn't deserve to be grouped in with them.
He's more of an entertainer than an emcee besides that there's nothing wrong with being in that Dr Dre/Diddy lane.
I consider him an emcee more than an entertainer. I think some people still refuse to give him props because he blew past some of their favorite MCs. ? , the guy has the game on lock......Damn near everything he puts his voice to becomes a hit in the club and/or radio.
That Diddy/Eazy/Dre lane is an insult to him and you know it.....LOL. Even after the Meek ? , many heavys in the industry still gave his pen game major props.
he took a load of weeknds tracks for his what people say is his best album 'take care'
jacked rappin 4 tays verse
got outed as having reference tracks and at least one but likely multiple writers
hotline bling was originally a cha cha remix till they hid all that
and more ? im forgetting. he is a heavily manufactured pop artist with a huge machine behind him, seems blatantly obvious.
Weeknd said he only wrote the singing parts not the bars and Drake debuted Hotline Bling as the Cha Cha Remix....now him using ghostwriters on If You're Reading This is inexcusable and he's forever got that stain on his record but 2 of those instances you mentioned have been explained multiple times
But most of Take Care was ballads...
And when did he say this?
He said it in his Rolling Stone interview. Said the singing parts for songs like Shot For Me and Crew Love that were originally his were written but Drake wrote his own bars...
They been knowing this ? . We all have, but logic isn't winning this arguement. ? just don't want to admit they can't be objective when it comes to drake cause they genuinely don't ? with him, but too many other people do. That kills them. -
mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Miley Cyrus>>>>>2pac. -
J.J._Evans wrote: »J.J._Evans wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »J.J._Evans wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Stop trying to make this ghostwriting ? happen; it's not going to happen.
You ? ? know what the difference is between the chorus and actual bars.
Ya'll want the game to be bubblegum pop sooooooo bad.
We had to accept wack ? a decade ago, now they want us to accept rappers that use ghostwriters smh.
Unless you're Diddy, Dre, Drake, Eazy E and people of that ilk you will lose credibility instantly.
LOL....you know damn well Drake doesn't deserve to be grouped in with them.
He's more of an entertainer than an emcee besides that there's nothing wrong with being in that Dr Dre/Diddy lane.
I consider him an emcee more than an entertainer. I think some people still refuse to give him props because he blew past some of their favorite MCs. ? , the guy has the game on lock......Damn near everything he puts his voice to becomes a hit in the club and/or radio.
That Diddy/Eazy/Dre lane is an insult to him and you know it.....LOL. Even after the Meek ? , many heavys in the industry still gave his pen game major props.
he took a load of weeknds tracks for his what people say is his best album 'take care'
jacked rappin 4 tays verse
got outed as having reference tracks and at least one but likely multiple writers
hotline bling was originally a cha cha remix till they hid all that
and more ? im forgetting. he is a heavily manufactured pop artist with a huge machine behind him, seems blatantly obvious.
The same posters (and their aliases) from the Drake -v- Meek thread are in here making the same failed arguments.
haha, literally the exact response i expected from you. being an idiot is one thing, being a predictable idiot is another thing altogether my friend
those were cold hard facts anyway. youre a drake fan, stop with deflections talking nonsense about old threads, some of the stuff i mentioned has recently come to light
so back up your boy, refute my facts. im interested to hear your opinion, not some defelection about an old thread and aliases. thats what this forum is about isnt it, peoples different opinions?
and yo who am i an alias of? i aint no fkin alias mate, name names if youre gonna throw sly, completely unfounded ? around. -
J.J._Evans wrote: »J.J._Evans wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »J.J._Evans wrote: »5th Letter wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Stop trying to make this ghostwriting ? happen; it's not going to happen.
You ? ? know what the difference is between the chorus and actual bars.
Ya'll want the game to be bubblegum pop sooooooo bad.
We had to accept wack ? a decade ago, now they want us to accept rappers that use ghostwriters smh.
Unless you're Diddy, Dre, Drake, Eazy E and people of that ilk you will lose credibility instantly.
LOL....you know damn well Drake doesn't deserve to be grouped in with them.
He's more of an entertainer than an emcee besides that there's nothing wrong with being in that Dr Dre/Diddy lane.
I consider him an emcee more than an entertainer. I think some people still refuse to give him props because he blew past some of their favorite MCs. ? , the guy has the game on lock......Damn near everything he puts his voice to becomes a hit in the club and/or radio.
That Diddy/Eazy/Dre lane is an insult to him and you know it.....LOL. Even after the Meek ? , many heavys in the industry still gave his pen game major props.
he took a load of weeknds tracks for his what people say is his best album 'take care'
jacked rappin 4 tays verse
got outed as having reference tracks and at least one but likely multiple writers
hotline bling was originally a cha cha remix till they hid all that
and more ? im forgetting. he is a heavily manufactured pop artist with a huge machine behind him, seems blatantly obvious.
The same posters (and their aliases) from the Drake -v- Meek thread are in here making the same failed arguments.
Why do you consider facts to be failed arguments?
How did you draw that conclusion?
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Lmao yall really think twista doesn't write his own songs? His style is way too unique for his best work to be ghost written, I highly doubt da resurrection, kamikaze, and adrenaline rush were ghost written
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hiphop12345 wrote: »
During life is good, after all the great press Nas was getting.MorganFreemanKing wrote: »
Dream Hampton did that ? cause she's obsessed with jigga,
and somebody called her show praising Nas' catalogue,
so she said the ? about jay elect and sticc man from dead prez..
both Sticc man and Jay elect came out and killed that rumor,
before it even started to travel..
It's already been publicized that most drake fans are ? and ? ass ? ..
They willing to tear Nas down just to try and build drake up..
They write letters to judges to get a ? locked up..
They excuse/ignore the fact he use ghost writers..
They ignore the fact that another man peed on him..
Liking his music is one thing .
but going in different threads defending his honor is straight up fagotry..
Facts is facts..
Dude has a lot of suspect ? about him,
and the lengths his fans will go to defend him is scary..
SMH..
You weirdo's prolly don't put the same amount of energy,
Into defending or protecting your mother and children as you do that ? .. -
hiphop12345 wrote: »
During life is good, after all the great press Nas was getting.MorganFreemanKing wrote: »
Dream Hampton did that ? cause she's obsessed with jigga,
and somebody called her show praising Nas' catalogue,
so she said the ? about jay elect and sticc man from dead prez..
both Sticc man and Jay elect came out and killed that rumor,
before it even started to travel..
It's already been publicized that most drake fans are ? and ? ass ? ..
They willing to tear Nas down just to try and build drake up..
They write letters to judges to get a ? locked up..
They excuse/ignore the fact he use ghost writers..
They ignore the fact that another man peed on him..
Liking his music is one thing .
but going in different threads defending his honor is straight up fagotry..
Facts is facts..
Dude has a lot of suspect ? about him,
and the lengths his fans will go to defend him is scary..
SMH..
You weirdo's prolly don't put the same amount of energy,
Into defending or protecting your mother and children as you do that ? ..
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sr_the_freshman wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Rap is a competitive. Ranking is not 100% opinions
You ? can't claim to be all about the 'feeling' of records, and say something like this. Using Drake as an example, the ? is constantly toating his lyrical prowess on wax. The 'lyrics themselves' is him talking ? about being the best in his sport. Over and over. So... do you care about what is being said? Cuz the ? isn't true. Can you relate to it? No, your not a platinum selling artist. Or are you one of those ? who just "like the way it sounds"? Because if that is the case, then the lyrics can be inaudible on some Young Thug. You should be ready to cosign that as well.
And if that is indeed the case, then why are you worried about this discussion? Be a music fan, that's cool. There are ditzy white ? who are simply fans of 'music' as well and thats fine.
But rap fans are rap fans because they know the rules of the genre, and indulge in it's competitiveness, as well as the truth it speaks to us. As fans of the genre, we dictate the the quality of the end product with our voice.
A lot of yall remind me of woman who claim to be sports fans. These hoes don't really care about the game; they care about specific players and the presentation. ? like me actually like the game itself.hiphop12345 wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Miley Cyrus>>>>>2pac.
Lol. Typical Reason responses. One extreme or the other. Miley Cyrus, Young Thug and anybody whose music sounds like theirs is trash to me. Just because I said I don't necessarily care how a song is crafted doesn't mean I don't like quality. ? . -
I seen you ? defend worse ? then drake stans tho
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StoneColdMikey wrote: »I seen you ? defend worse ? then drake stans tho
nah. not here -
StoneColdMikey wrote: »I seen you ? defend worse ? then drake stans tho
nah. not here
Lmfaooooooooo I been here for 5 years I seen worst foh -
StoneColdMikey wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I seen you ? defend worse ? then drake stans tho
nah. not here
Lmfaooooooooo I been here for 5 years I seen worst foh
not in any way, ive been here 8 years on and off and there is no way you can tell me the IC isnt anything other than fair and impartial, its just that some posters are mentally ? and struggle to get their point across. -
mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Rap is a competitive. Ranking is not 100% opinions
You ? can't claim to be all about the 'feeling' of records, and say something like this. Using Drake as an example, the ? is constantly toating his lyrical prowess on wax. The 'lyrics themselves' is him talking ? about being the best in his sport. Over and over. So... do you care about what is being said? Cuz the ? isn't true. Can you relate to it? No, your not a platinum selling artist. Or are you one of those ? who just "like the way it sounds"? Because if that is the case, then the lyrics can be inaudible on some Young Thug. You should be ready to cosign that as well.
And if that is indeed the case, then why are you worried about this discussion? Be a music fan, that's cool. There are ditzy white ? who are simply fans of 'music' as well and thats fine.
But rap fans are rap fans because they know the rules of the genre, and indulge in it's competitiveness, as well as the truth it speaks to us. As fans of the genre, we dictate the the quality of the end product with our voice.
A lot of yall remind me of woman who claim to be sports fans. These hoes don't really care about the game; they care about specific players and the presentation. ? like me actually like the game itself.hiphop12345 wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Miley Cyrus>>>>>2pac.
Lol. Typical Reason responses. One extreme or the other. Miley Cyrus, Young Thug and anybody whose music sounds like theirs is trash to me. Just because I said I don't necessarily care how a song is crafted doesn't mean I don't like quality. ? .
You didn't address anything in that post.
If your simply a fan of music only concerned about sound, then maintain your prerogative, and stay out of the way of ? who are legit fans of rap.
That is not what you ? are doing though. Ya'll are caping for Drake; attempting to validate him, and trying to tell ? that they are "silly" for discontinuing their support for some ? that has been deemed unauthentic.
You think it's "silly" for ? to stop listening to some ? based off of anything other then the music sound.
I think that is shallow ? .
I think it's "silly" to try to tell ? they're wrong for expecting a level of authenticity behind their music. -
StoneColdMikey wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I seen you ? defend worse ? then drake stans tho
nah. not here
Lmfaooooooooo I been here for 5 years I seen worst foh
not in any way, ive been here 8 years on and off and there is no way you can tell me the IC isnt anything other than fair and impartial, its just that some posters are mentally ? and struggle to get their point across.
Lmao the IC ain't impartial when it comes to this ? . Never has been -
StoneColdMikey wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I seen you ? defend worse ? then drake stans tho
nah. not here
Lmfaooooooooo I been here for 5 years I seen worst foh
not in any way, ive been here 8 years on and off and there is no way you can tell me the IC isnt anything other than fair and impartial, its just that some posters are mentally ? and struggle to get their point across.
Lmao the IC ain't impartial when it comes to this ? . Never has been
disagree, this is a very fair forum in regards to opinions,
every pac biggie, jay nas etc conversation have always been conducted in the most impeccable manner, its just the odd ? who waylays the topic because of brain problems, but its hardly their fault as they are mentally ill
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That one Drake Stan never came back. Dude left his own thread when it got real
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IceBergTaylor wrote: »That one Drake Stan never came back. Dude left his own thread when it got real
guy dropped a snidey little thread then when presented with actual aguments just split
hell be back like this, all like 'try getting common sense and hard facts through this. drake the greatest rapper ever in here'
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sr_the_freshman wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Rap is a competitive. Ranking is not 100% opinions
You ? can't claim to be all about the 'feeling' of records, and say something like this. Using Drake as an example, the ? is constantly toating his lyrical prowess on wax. The 'lyrics themselves' is him talking ? about being the best in his sport. Over and over. So... do you care about what is being said? Cuz the ? isn't true. Can you relate to it? No, your not a platinum selling artist. Or are you one of those ? who just "like the way it sounds"? Because if that is the case, then the lyrics can be inaudible on some Young Thug. You should be ready to cosign that as well.
And if that is indeed the case, then why are you worried about this discussion? Be a music fan, that's cool. There are ditzy white ? who are simply fans of 'music' as well and thats fine.
But rap fans are rap fans because they know the rules of the genre, and indulge in it's competitiveness, as well as the truth it speaks to us. As fans of the genre, we dictate the the quality of the end product with our voice.
A lot of yall remind me of woman who claim to be sports fans. These hoes don't really care about the game; they care about specific players and the presentation. ? like me actually like the game itself.hiphop12345 wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Miley Cyrus>>>>>2pac.
Lol. Typical Reason responses. One extreme or the other. Miley Cyrus, Young Thug and anybody whose music sounds like theirs is trash to me. Just because I said I don't necessarily care how a song is crafted doesn't mean I don't like quality. ? .
You didn't address anything in that post.
If your simply a fan of music only concerned about sound, then maintain your prerogative, and stay out of the way of ? who are legit fans of rap.
That is not what you ? are doing though. Ya'll are caping for Drake; attempting to validate him, and trying to tell ? that they are "silly" for discontinuing their support for some ? that has been deemed unauthentic.
You think it's "silly" for ? to stop listening to some ? based off of anything other then the music sound.
I think that is shallow ? .
I think it's "silly" to try to tell ? they're wrong for expecting a level of authenticity behind their music.
No one said it's wrong to expect authenticity. I basically said, it's silly to hear a song you like, find out someone else wrote it and be like "awwww ? that song bruh". If you liked the song, if it made your day, if it got you through the death of a family member or friend, the song served its purpose. ? how it was crafted. All I'm saying. We can agree to disagree. I don't care either way. I was just dropping an opinion on a message board. You decided to challenge me and say I might as well like Young Thug and I'm not a legit rap fan. I found it hilarious considering my extensive knowledge and collection of not only Hip-Hop but music in general. Which is why I clicked LOL on both your statements because I authentically laughed out loud. -
sr_the_freshman wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Rap is a competitive. Ranking is not 100% opinions
You ? can't claim to be all about the 'feeling' of records, and say something like this. Using Drake as an example, the ? is constantly toating his lyrical prowess on wax. The 'lyrics themselves' is him talking ? about being the best in his sport. Over and over. So... do you care about what is being said? Cuz the ? isn't true. Can you relate to it? No, your not a platinum selling artist. Or are you one of those ? who just "like the way it sounds"? Because if that is the case, then the lyrics can be inaudible on some Young Thug. You should be ready to cosign that as well.
And if that is indeed the case, then why are you worried about this discussion? Be a music fan, that's cool. There are ditzy white ? who are simply fans of 'music' as well and thats fine.
But rap fans are rap fans because they know the rules of the genre, and indulge in it's competitiveness, as well as the truth it speaks to us. As fans of the genre, we dictate the the quality of the end product with our voice.
A lot of yall remind me of woman who claim to be sports fans. These hoes don't really care about the game; they care about specific players and the presentation. ? like me actually like the game itself.hiphop12345 wrote: »mosincredible wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »StoneColdMikey wrote: »I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you ?
Yall only want this ? to happen as to validate your favorite, ghostwriter assisted artist, which is wack.Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »sr_the_freshman wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
First rap song to pop isn't a part of the Golden Era. ? evolved beyond that.
there were ghostwriters and producers during that Era as well...its part of the game...i dont like it none but its part of the game
Yes ghostwriting always existed. Just like fouls exist in basketball. Just like steroids exist in athletics. Just like implants exist in hoes.
It's still a foul. It's still cheating. It's still unauthentic. Still unacceptable in the game.
Thing is, I'm a fan of music. Cheating, fouls, all that ? only affects rankings of rappers. I personally don't care where any of these ? are ranked. Rankings are all opinions anyway. I only care about the lyrics themselves and how the music sounds. Some of you would flat out stop listening to a song because you found out the artist didn't write it. That ? 's silly to me.
Miley Cyrus>>>>>2pac.
Lol. Typical Reason responses. One extreme or the other. Miley Cyrus, Young Thug and anybody whose music sounds like theirs is trash to me. Just because I said I don't necessarily care how a song is crafted doesn't mean I don't like quality. ? .
You didn't address anything in that post.
If your simply a fan of music only concerned about sound, then maintain your prerogative, and stay out of the way of ? who are legit fans of rap.
That is not what you ? are doing though. Ya'll are caping for Drake; attempting to validate him, and trying to tell ? that they are "silly" for discontinuing their support for some ? that has been deemed unauthentic.
You think it's "silly" for ? to stop listening to some ? based off of anything other then the music sound.
I think that is shallow ? .
I think it's "silly" to try to tell ? they're wrong for expecting a level of authenticity behind their music.
GOAT post
And this is exactly what I mean when I call Drake a Pop Diva. I'll use Beyonce as an example
Beyonce does not write her own music. She has also blatantly taken songs from lesser known artists(she basically stole ? in Love from Future/Detail). This is common knowledge to everyone but Beyonce fans
Tell Beyonce fans that she doesn't write her own music and they will go out of their way to try and destroy you in any way possible. I've actually gotten into real life arguments with female Beyonce stans after I told them that she's given a set of pre-written songs and she cherry-picks the ones she wants to use
This is also true of a lot of other pop artists.
When I think of Drake and all of his moves, I see him in this lane, not the rapper lane
Which is why I call him a pop diva -
Beyonce didn't "steal" any music lol. Detail made the beat and have Future record over it and then gave it Beyonce after
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Beyonce didn't "steal" any music lol. Detail made the beat and have Future record over it and then gave it Beyonce after
Incorrect. They demo'd it for Beyonce and she never got back to them about it, then it was suddenly on her album
I made a whole thread about this a while ago, back when I was still getting flagged for talking about Future
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/513096/future-interview-with-angie-martinez-hot-97-admits-to-writing-? -in-love/p1 -
Beyonce didn't "steal" any music lol. Detail made the beat and have Future record over it and then gave it Beyonce after
Incorrect. They demo'd it for Beyonce and she never got back to them about it, then it was suddenly on her album
I made a whole thread about this a while ago, back when I was still getting flagged for talking about Future
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/513096/future-interview-with-angie-martinez-hot-97-admits-to-writing-? -in-love/p1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVIOvouRjpc
why is Detail listed as a producer and writer if she stole it? -
Based on previous precedent that song was stolen/
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5th Letter wrote: »Based on previous precedent that song was stolen/
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