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detcatinva wrote: »
his only move is lowering his shoulder or stiff arm to the basket.
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Ky gon have to take a backseat and let Lebron control the game in every aspect. Unfortunately Ky ain't having that.
That's the best way for them to win and honestly that's why he is more "valuable" because he thrives in having the most responsibility. -
That's a weak argument.
It's "most valuable player in the league"
What, his value differs in the playoffs? If anything it should go UP.
Who's the real MVP to you?
My vote would've went
Lebron CP3 Curry Durant Westbrook
So lebron
Look at it like this
Cavs with Bron can get to the finals at best
No Bron they may be an 8-9 seed
Warriors with no Curry 5-7 seed
With curry 73-9 and second straight championship
Now my question is which is more valuable a finals appearance and another loss or second straight ring and the greatest record of all time?
I can word it differently and NOT rely on hypotheticals (which have no place in a debate anyways).
Before Lebron was drafted Cleveland had 17 wins. As a rookie they doubled the wins then never lost less than 42.
His last years they won 66 and 61. He leaves and the very next year they win 19, then 21, then 24, than 33. Never got close to winning the amount he did in his ROOKIE year. He comes back, the next two years they in the finals.
THAT's value.
And inarguable.
What does his rookie year and before have to do with MVP of 2016?
Showing you the value of him being on a team, and what the team does when he's not there.
You see what the Warriors do when Curry isn't playing or is ineffective.
And you can judge Curry's value in a ring or the best record ever....this season!
Ok so tell me about Curry's games in this and last years finals...
Go ahead and look them all up.
He wasn't even most valuable on his own team last finals.
Tell me about brons and how they ended
Let's see, he averaged something like 36 13 and 9.
The guy who HELD him to those stats got MVP.
This year curry scored 10 and 18 and hasn't been the best player on his team in any game. Not even close actually.
Lol you trolling good job guy
So if we basing MVP on scoring..
Harden>>>>
Please point out where i said its only about scoring.
And you're wrong on another front because curry was the scoring champ this year.
I'm sorry. When you answered with point totals I assumed you were attempting to make a point.
You must've missed the second part of the sentence where i said he wasn't close the best player on his team in either game. -
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An understated aspect of this the type of players Lebron and Kyrie are.
They are two ball dominate guys who needs the ball to be effective.
Those kinda skillsets from your stars make it harder for the less talented rotational guys to get involved.
The only way that works is if lebron plays off ball .. Lebron teams are so lebron centric great very good players become less than so lebrons greatness can shine.. His lack of offensive game has always been an Achilles
The food chain is always Bron/Shooters then the stars.. and he PF is the Odd man out.. but im hating.. you can hate throw shots at everyone but Lebron not the King.. not the KING
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Is the 2009 Lakers one of the most underrated teams of All Time? I love these GS squads but if they faced 09 or 10 Lakers in a series, i think majority would favor Lakers.....
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detcatinva wrote: »for everyone saying lebron should just go to the basket it's not that simple. he has no one on one handle or moves.
now that he is older his only move is lowering his shoulder or stiff arm to the basket.
draymond green and andre have the wide shoulders and length to challenge his shot and not get run over.
avg post game and no mid range game lebron is looking like karl malone. just physically stronger than most of his opponents.
? offensive game is remedial as ? . That third quarter was painful to watch -
Is the 2009 Lakers one of the most underrated teams of All Time? I love these GS squads but if they faced 09 or 10 Lakers in a series, i think majority would favor Lakers.....
Man ? -
the PF has to be on the perimeter for Lebron cuz he has no midrange game
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Damnnn,
If only y'all ? worked this fast w/ missing Children -
also lebron doesn't have a quick first step out of the triple threat. you get up on him he is gonna back up to get a head of steam and attack the rim.
that just helps the warriors zone up on him.
and make him go left when he does back up cuz most of the time he will take a 1 dribble pull up jumper -
willhustle wrote: »OhioState1987 wrote: »If these ? don't get it together in game 3 they might have to add another chapter to the ESPN 30 for 30 Believeland
These first 2 games is enough alone to add another chapter to 30 for 30. The Cavs are downright embarrassing and really are showing how bad the Eastern Conference is. What they gone do if they get swept this series? Keep going to the ECF every year like the Pistons did from '03-08 and keep losing every year? (At least the Pistons got 1 title & 2 Finals appearances) This Cavs team looks worse than the one that played in the Finals last year.
I say this every year and that is why LeBron looks so good until the finals. didn't even watch the trash ass math-ups this in the East this year. Cavs were an overrated team who would not make the playoffs in the West obviously. -
JonnyRoccIT wrote: »
Hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahha -
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I might be ? . Doris Burke is looking right right now.
Y'all hype the hell out of that middle age average looking white broad. -
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How do you ? do this? -
I've always assumed it was a sarcastic joke. But I do like her handles -
After some investigation... She got a ? face -
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Warrior's will 3 Peat, lock it in
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That's a weak argument.
It's "most valuable player in the league"
What, his value differs in the playoffs? If anything it should go UP.
Who's the real MVP to you?
My vote would've went
Lebron CP3 Curry Durant Westbrook
So lebron
Look at it like this
Cavs with Bron can get to the finals at best
No Bron they may be an 8-9 seed
Warriors with no Curry 5-7 seed
With curry 73-9 and second straight championship
Now my question is which is more valuable a finals appearance and another loss or second straight ring and the greatest record of all time?
I can word it differently and NOT rely on hypotheticals (which have no place in a debate anyways).
Before Lebron was drafted Cleveland had 17 wins. As a rookie they doubled the wins then never lost less than 42.
His last years they won 66 and 61. He leaves and the very next year they win 19, then 21, then 24, than 33. Never got close to winning the amount he did in his ROOKIE year. He comes back, the next two years they in the finals.
THAT's value.
And inarguable.
What does his rookie year and before have to do with MVP of 2016?
Showing you the value of him being on a team, and what the team does when he's not there.
You see what the Warriors do when Curry isn't playing or is ineffective.
And you can judge Curry's value in a ring or the best record ever....this season!
Ok so tell me about Curry's games in this and last years finals...
Go ahead and look them all up.
He wasn't even most valuable on his own team last finals.
Tell me about brons and how they ended
Let's see, he averaged something like 36 13 and 9.
The guy who HELD him to those stats got MVP.
This year curry scored 10 and 18 and hasn't been the best player on his team in any game. Not even close actually.
Lol you trolling good job guy
So if we basing MVP on scoring..
Harden>>>>
Please point out where i said its only about scoring.
And you're wrong on another front because curry was the scoring champ this year.
I'm sorry. When you answered with point totals I assumed you were attempting to make a point.
You must've missed the second part of the sentence where i said he wasn't close the best player on his team in either game.
So it's...
Best player on a ? team >>>> best player on a great team????
We penalizing great teammates? -
detcatinva wrote: »the PF has to be on the perimeter for Lebron cuz he has no midrange game
Yea they serve ass spacers to pull the inside presence/body form the paint -
An understated aspect of this the type of players Lebron and Kyrie are.
They are two ball dominate guys who needs the ball to be effective.
Those kinda skillsets from your stars make it harder for the less talented rotational guys to get involved.
Like I said, they are they are going to have to get of either Love or Kyrie and at the rate those guys have played in the first 2 games they are useless.
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