Raekwon - Ice Cream. WTF Is These N*ggas Talking About?

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  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    But ? love E-40 slang tho

    Lol E-40 makes sense tho. He just change the words at the end.

    Rae says whole sentences that makes zero sense with no explanation.
    LOL it makes sense my brother, it's just what he is saying a lot of people don't know that particular slang

    Yeah, another thing Rae does is this stream of consciousness type rap, where he'll take a topic and just throw a bunch of stuff about that topic out seemingly at random. So if you take a step back and look at the whole verse as a whole with the topic in mind, it makes sense. However, if you go line by line, it doesn't seem coherent. I have to say I hate when he does that ? . Rae is better when he's storytelling. He's on point then.
  • 5 Grand
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    I'm ready for 100 flags, nosigns and wacks but here goes;

    I remember during the East/West beef Death Row was doing their thing and the East Coast was doing their thing.

    At the time me and my friends thought that the West Coast rappers were too simple. I mean the sonic quality was good and they rapped on beat, but lyrically it wasn't advanced. They rapped like Rakim and LL Cool J in 1987.

    The cats on the East Coast (Wutang, Nas, Gang Starr, Biggie, DITC, etc.) were using heavy slang and thats what we liked. We liked rappers that used heavy slang and deciphering what they were saying. We felt that the West Coast rappers that get so much praise (Pac, Kurrupt, Too $hort, Ice Cube, Snoop, etc.) were kinda boring. They didn't really use slang, they just used regular words to say whatever they were saying.

    I'm ready for a bunch of negative reactions but thats how we felt.
  • aneed123
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    As for the first first bolded line, shell = frame or body and wicked at the time was slang for good or excellent. However, he's making another play on words because wicked also means evil, and Nimrod was a Babylonian king from the Bible and other texts that rebelled against ? . In plain English, he's just saying her body is really sexy. A fresh water scrod is a kinda fish. So applying that to the previous line, he's basically saying that her body lured him in and now he's caught i.e. she has him sprung.

    The next line actually a bit harder to decipher if you don't listen to a lot of Wu. Vine = Devine one of the dudes in the management side of the Wu group at the time. I think he's related to Rza or something. C Allah Rule is 5% code or something like that, but it just means car as shown by the bolded letters. He was telling the chick that her style had him turned on like a car. Again that one was difficult if you don't listen to the Wu a lot, but if you do, you'd get it because make weird quasi-acronyms out of words all the time for some reason. Another common one they use is C Cypher Punk. The C is just the letter like the example from this song. A cypher in this case is a circle or the letter O and you take the P from Punk, and you get cop.

    As for the last one, Shirley Temple Curls are a hairstyle based on Shirley Temple when she was a young actress and Billie Jean's was a local hair salon.

    Bruh this spose to be a song about differnt flavor/types of women and I gotta decipher all this ? ? ....
  • aneed123
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    Stew wrote: »
    Never really cared to understand most of it, ? was dope tho.


    How sway?

  • king hassan
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    As for the first first bolded line, shell = frame or body and wicked at the time was slang for good or excellent. However, he's making another play on words because wicked also means evil, and Nimrod was a Babylonian king from the Bible and other texts that rebelled against ? . In plain English, he's just saying her body is really sexy. A fresh water scrod is a kinda fish. So applying that to the previous line, he's basically saying that her body lured him in and now he's caught i.e. she has him sprung.

    The next line actually a bit harder to decipher if you don't listen to a lot of Wu. Vine = Devine one of the dudes in the management side of the Wu group at the time. I think he's related to Rza or something. C Allah Rule is 5% code or something like that, but it just means car as shown by the bolded letters. He was telling the chick that her style had him turned on like a car. Again that one was difficult if you don't listen to the Wu a lot, but if you do, you'd get it because make weird quasi-acronyms out of words all the time for some reason. Another common one they use is C Cypher Punk. The C is just the letter like the example from this song. A cypher in this case is a circle or the letter O and you take the P from Punk, and you get cop.

    As for the last one, Shirley Temple Curls are a hairstyle based on Shirley Temple when she was a young actress and Billie Jean's was a local hair salon.

    Bruh this spose to be a song about differnt flavor/types of women and I gotta decipher all this ? ? ....

    LOL it's metaphoric homie
  • Qiv_Owan
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    But ? hate any cry when Lupe goes in

    *leaves thread forever*
  • Stew
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    Never really cared to understand most of it, ? was dope tho.


    How sway?

    Cause I like the way they rap and their production. I don't need a song to teach me about something to be entertained. Dope beat, dope rhymes is all I need. Yall can have the "its gotta be relatable, have to be talkin about something for it to be dope", ? don't work that way for me.
  • KamPushMe
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    Both are the kings of talking mad random ?
  • king hassan
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    BenjaminE wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I'm ready for 100 flags, nosigns and wacks but here goes;

    I remember during the East/West beef Death Row was doing their thing and the East Coast was doing their thing.

    At the time me and my friends thought that the West Coast rappers were too simple. I mean the sonic quality was good and they rapped on beat, but lyrically it wasn't advanced. They rapped like Rakim and LL Cool J in 1987.

    The cats on the East Coast (Wutang, Nas, Gang Starr, Biggie, DITC, etc.) were using heavy slang and thats what we liked. We liked rappers that used heavy slang and deciphering what they were saying. We felt that the West Coast rappers that get so much praise (Pac, Kurrupt, Too $hort, Ice Cube, Snoop, etc.) were kinda boring. They didn't really use slang, they just used regular words to say whatever they were saying.

    I'm ready for a bunch of negative reactions but thats how we felt.

    Where were your boys when your ? got taken?

    Bhwaaaaaahahahaha, this brought pure tears to my eyes.
  • EyeofAsaru
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    edited February 2017
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    Y'all have to revisit that Raekwon wu tang vs shaolin album..That album low key stands next to purple tape as one of his best albums
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    Supreme Clientele own the thread
  • aneed123
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    Stew wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    Never really cared to understand most of it, ? was dope tho.


    How sway?

    Cause I like the way they rap and their production. I don't need a song to teach me about something to be entertained. Dope beat, dope rhymes is all I need. Yall can have the "its gotta be relatable, have to be talkin about something for it to be dope", ? don't work that way for me.

    Sounds like the same expliantion those make when trapor mumbe rap is bashed by those who say they cant understand it No?
  • Stew
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    edited February 2017
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    aneed123 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    aneed123 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    Never really cared to understand most of it, ? was dope tho.


    How sway?

    Cause I like the way they rap and their production. I don't need a song to teach me about something to be entertained. Dope beat, dope rhymes is all I need. Yall can have the "its gotta be relatable, have to be talkin about something for it to be dope", ? don't work that way for me.

    Sounds like the same expliantion those make when trapor mumbe rap is bashed by those who say they cant understand it No?

    People prove they're hypocrites everyday on this site, u just gotta catch'em in the act, prove it and laugh all the way to the IC bank.
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    BenjaminE wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I'm ready for 100 flags, nosigns and wacks but here goes;

    I remember during the East/West beef Death Row was doing their thing and the East Coast was doing their thing.

    At the time me and my friends thought that the West Coast rappers were too simple. I mean the sonic quality was good and they rapped on beat, but lyrically it wasn't advanced. They rapped like Rakim and LL Cool J in 1987.

    The cats on the East Coast (Wutang, Nas, Gang Starr, Biggie, DITC, etc.) were using heavy slang and thats what we liked. We liked rappers that used heavy slang and deciphering what they were saying. We felt that the West Coast rappers that get so much praise (Pac, Kurrupt, Too $hort, Ice Cube, Snoop, etc.) were kinda boring. They didn't really use slang, they just used regular words to say whatever they were saying.

    I'm ready for a bunch of negative reactions but thats how we felt.

    Where were your boys when your ? got taken?

    It doesn't matter - I castrated them

    oh. ok
  • Nah Son
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    BenjaminE wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I'm ready for 100 flags, nosigns and wacks but here goes;

    I remember during the East/West beef Death Row was doing their thing and the East Coast was doing their thing.

    At the time me and my friends thought that the West Coast rappers were too simple. I mean the sonic quality was good and they rapped on beat, but lyrically it wasn't advanced. They rapped like Rakim and LL Cool J in 1987.

    The cats on the East Coast (Wutang, Nas, Gang Starr, Biggie, DITC, etc.) were using heavy slang and thats what we liked. We liked rappers that used heavy slang and deciphering what they were saying. We felt that the West Coast rappers that get so much praise (Pac, Kurrupt, Too $hort, Ice Cube, Snoop, etc.) were kinda boring. They didn't really use slang, they just used regular words to say whatever they were saying.

    I'm ready for a bunch of negative reactions but thats how we felt.

    Where were your boys when your ? got taken?

    It doesn't matter - I castrated them

    So you castrated your boys? What did they have to do with it? The plot thickens
  • Stew
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  • P. Town
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    Reminds me of the create a Raekwon verse thread
  • emaculate
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    edited February 2017
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    "A jungle junkie, vigilante tantrum, a death kiss
    Cat walk squeeze another anthem, hold it for ransom/
    Tranquilize with anaesthesias, my ochersta, graceful music ballerinas"

    U-?
    love that verse
    The bold to end of his verse prolly my fav part about his verse

    Rap genius got us covered llz
    (https://genius.com/Wu-tang-clan-triumph-lyrics)

    This song happens to have one of Rae's more understanble verses I think.

    Even if you don't understand haha How can you not ? wit it

    While my pen blow lines ferocious
    
Mediterranean, see y'all, the number one draft pick
    
Tear down the beat ? , then delegate the ? to see ? 

    The swift chancellor, flex the white gold tarantula
    
Track truck diesel, play the weed ? substantiala


    Max mostly, undivided then slide in sickening
Guaranteed made 'em jump like Rod Strickland
  • emaculate
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    But ? love E-40 slang tho

    Lol E-40 makes sense tho. He just change the words at the end.

    Rae says whole sentences that makes zero sense with no explanation.
    LOL it makes sense my brother, it's just what he is saying a lot of people don't know that particular slang

    Yeah, another thing Rae does is this stream of consciousness type rap, where he'll take a topic and just throw a bunch of stuff about that topic out seemingly at random. So if you take a step back and look at the whole verse as a whole with the topic in mind, it makes sense. However, if you go line by line, it doesn't seem coherent. I have to say I hate when he does that ? . Rae is better when he's storytelling. He's on point then.

    The closet type of conscious stream flows I've heard as of recently with that in mind was Willie the Kid on Masterpiece Theater with Alc. That project stays in constant rotation these days.
  • Qiv_Owan
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    Rae's BET Hiphop Awards cypher was one of the best ones ever spit