Ebro responds Charlamagne Tha Cake Soap Gawd calling him a groupie on Joe Budden's Podcast...
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If it's true Ebro approached Charlamagne with this reason, then Charlamagne probably should've mentioned this on the podcast. He did make it sound like Ebro was just being a stan on Joe Budden's podcast. If he was aware that Ebro wanted to do it for the event, he should've at least mentioned it. I mean even if he still thought he was stanning, he made it seem like he was completely baffled why Ebro would ask to have a picture with him. So one of them is lying.
Regardless, I still don't think Charlamagne should've taken the picture. Ebro called ? a ? , and stood by it in this clip. The picture is supposed to represent what exactly? We're bigger than the beef? Well, if it implies that we're cool in this moment, then we're not bigger than the beef. It's a lie. Your duty is to be honest first and foremost, especially since the picture isn't saving any lives but just meant to show that we can put our differences aside or something like that. If that's all it's supposed to show, then I'm not putting my differences aside. I'm not showing up at a black event when you called me a ? and validating you unless you apologize and come clean. You do that, then I put my differences aside. Charlamagne is actually out here doing some decent work for a radio personality. That debate with Tomi went viral and it allowed a large number of not just white people but also black people be exposed to key arguments that refute the ? talking points by people like Tomi about BLM and the black panther party. He was also hoping he might change her mind a little, and he failed to do that, but it's all good. Keep it moving. -
Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 wrote: »MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 wrote: »Unless the photo would have ended police bias toward black people forever what is the point of the photo. It was dope they went to the know your rights event for the cause but a photo ain't gunna fix injustice.
Trump ain't gunna be like "I saw a great great photo of CTG and Ebro and i want all police to know the rights these black men have. Every police officer who has bias toward black men and women called me personally last night and will treat all people fairly for the cultre."
The event wasn't going to do any of that either. That's a small minded position to take.
It all just speaks towards the larger issue of male ego and pride. More specifically in the black/urban community.
Honestly Kap ? me off because he doesn't ? get it. He has these programs and ? but the ? not even voting in his local election. The reason Ferguson had the issues with the police and the justice system out there is cause in a mostly black area ? ain't vote.
You sound like a parrot -
CashmoneyDux wrote: »This thread and it's responses should be entered as an exhibit into a museum for the Fragility of the Black Man's Ego.
Y'all want gangbangers and street runners to cut the ? but say these ? can't get over themselves for a bigger cause?
Jay-Z and Nas squashed their ? dealing with worse.
How many formerly warring countries are allied now?
Time to man up and stop flaunting the ego of a ? . Either that or stop fronting morality and righteousness.
Flagged for that ? Comparison
Call it whatever the ? you want and throw flags until your mouse breaks.
I didn't call on it to make a comparison because there is none. Because this ? radio beef pales in comparison. So why the ? can they not get over it for this cause? Pride is the deadliest sin and ? need to get over themselves.
That ain't got ? to do with pride. If you and someone else genuinely do not get along then fronting like you do for a picture accomplishes nothing but making you both look suspect. The fact that they were both there shows they can see a cause bigger than themselves, but Ebro is stupid as ? for suggesting a photo with CTG knowing they don't get along and after the pic would have been taken still wouldn't be cool. -
soul rattler wrote: »The ridiculousness of radio theatrics.
You have Ebro on one hand throwing out insults and then shrugging it off as playful competitive banter when it's time to get serious.
Then you have Charlemagne who jokes on people constantly but takes jabs at him as serious insults.
They both have powerful platforms. Hot97 is like the proud big brother who gives tough love to Power 105 but actually appreciates the competition. But 105 is so in their feelings they constantly try to prove their validity by pushing Hot97 away.
If Charlemagne's can't rise above petty radio beef for the sake of the people, he ain't ? . Malcolm X called MLK an Uncle Tom but that didn't stop him from telling the white chief of police in ATL not to lay a finger on King or else. Some things are bigger than the individual.
Have you ever heard Rosenburg talk about Power 105? He don't appreciate no competition. They stay taking shots at them during interviews with artists. -
Did y'all hear Rosenberg of all people say in the background "only suckas need security"
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Revolver Ocelot wrote: »JokerzWyld wrote: »I saw Ebro at the 10/10/15 event taking pics with people; it's what he does.
I think CTG was wrong in this situation. You can't have meetings with Tomi Lahren who disparages black organizations and try to son a black dude at a meeting for a black organization. That's foul IMO
How is CTG wrong for not taking a pic w/ a ? he doesn't care for?
How ever you feel about him and that Tomi situation, that ? pic wasn't gonna change ur mind.
Y'all ? in here acting like y'all cool wit every MF you ever met in your life. That event wasn't about CTG and Ebro mending fences, it was about rights or voting(idk).
What's funny is had it came out that CTG wanted to take a pic w/ Ebro y'all be calling him lame.
My point is this: he wasn't cool with Tomi, but he went on her show which added to her brand for better or worse. She never altered her position on the subject of black organizations but he decided to meet with her again anyway. That's inconsistent with how Ebro was treated at a meeting for a black organization. Ebro never mentioned the slight, he just let it be. Charlemagne mentioned the encounter for cool points.
If you disagree that's fine, but it's not consistent with his precepts on slave-mindedness. -
Cutler 26 INT's LOL! wrote: »Once again, CTG had a meeting with that white girl to school her on why her rhetoric is wrong. He wasn't just kicking it with her.
So why couldn't he have a sit down with Ebro on why he wasn't cooning? -
Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
Malcolm X said there isn't a black person in America he doesn't have use for.
If Malcolm X can put differences aside, so can Charlemagne and Ebro. If it's possible for him in the 1960s, it's good enough for them in 2017. -
JokerzWyld wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »JokerzWyld wrote: »I saw Ebro at the 10/10/15 event taking pics with people; it's what he does.
I think CTG was wrong in this situation. You can't have meetings with Tomi Lahren who disparages black organizations and try to son a black dude at a meeting for a black organization. That's foul IMO
How is CTG wrong for not taking a pic w/ a ? he doesn't care for?
How ever you feel about him and that Tomi situation, that ? pic wasn't gonna change ur mind.
Y'all ? in here acting like y'all cool wit every MF you ever met in your life. That event wasn't about CTG and Ebro mending fences, it was about rights or voting(idk).
What's funny is had it came out that CTG wanted to take a pic w/ Ebro y'all be calling him lame.
My point is this: he wasn't cool with Tomi, but he went on her show which added to her brand for better or worse. She never altered her position on the subject of black organizations but he decided to meet with her again anyway. That's inconsistent with how Ebro was treated at a meeting for a black organization. Ebro never mentioned the slight, he just let it be. Charlemagne mentioned the encounter for cool points.
If you disagree that's fine, but it's not consistent with his precepts on slave-mindedness.
Charlamagne mentioned the encounter because it came up as part of a conversation when Joe Budden asked him about him and Hot 97...and the Tomi ? you're looking at way out of context. There's a difference in not getting along w/ a radio personality, especially another black man, for saying you're a ? and then also wanting to take a picture with you like everything is good vs. telling a white woman that trying to compare Black Lives Matter protesting police violence is the same as the KKK. Those are 2 very different sets of circumstances
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soul rattler wrote: »Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
Malcolm X said there isn't a black person in America he doesn't have use for.
If Malcolm X can put differences aside, so can Charlemagne and Ebro. If it's possible for him in the 1960s, it's good enough for them in 2017.
It also took time for him to get to that point...and everybody don't move at the same pace...plus ain't nobody obligated to forgive nobody. That's a personal decision you make -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Did y'all hear Rosenberg of all people say in the background "only suckas need security"
Lmao ?
Man everyone knows that's Wax. He put his peoples ain't nothing wrong with that. CTG knows he ? off fragile egos constantly and has been approached.
Either way I think their both entertaining. CTG is funny as ? and BI is my favorite podcast. Ebro been killing it with interviews lately too. -
? both of em
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Did y'all hear Rosenberg of all people say in the background "only suckas need security"
Lmao ?
Man everyone knows that's Wax. He put his peoples ain't nothing wrong with that. CTG knows he ? off fragile egos constantly and has been approached.
Either way I think their both entertaining. CTG is funny as ? and BI is my favorite podcast. Ebro been killing it with interviews lately too.
Honestly you would be a ? fool not to have security once you reach a certain level of Fame but ctg has one guy that's his homie like E40 told him you have to make it hard for them to touch you -
They both have a point.
Only issue is CTG lying to make it sound like Ebro was just trying to take a picture when he approached him and said the chick would like them to take a pic. So CTG knew that, but left it out, and when you lie about 1 thing, its hard to believe anything else -
Interesting points on both sides
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He was mildly caught off guard and wasn't ready to deal with damage control or he didn't want to take the picture which I think is fine.
They need to have a one on one discussion to air out differences or stay out of each other's way.
CTG bout his views and clicks as he said on his podcast so I can see why he left it out. Doesn't really make a difference. Homie ain't wanna take a picture and homie don't ? with you like that. End of story.
CTG would not have been there if it wasn't for Ebro? Did anyone catch that? I think Homie brought this on himself. You can't always 100% accurately predict the next mans behavior especially after ? their name and rep.
Queue the Tony Montana clip....
TBH idk if I would've taken the picture without first having a conversation to air out everything respectfully.
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soul rattler wrote: »Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
Malcolm X said there isn't a black person in America he doesn't have use for.
Give me the full quote.soul rattler wrote: »If Malcolm X can put differences aside, so can Charlemagne and Ebro. If it's possible for him in the 1960s, it's good enough for them in 2017.
The example given was a white cop about to put his hands on MLK. Completely different story.
And what's the big cause they are putting their differences aside for? What exactly is the picture supposed to accomplish other than the false representation that they are cool? It would be one thing if you had blacks getting shot up out in the streets and Ebro and Charlamagne had to come together to literally save lives. Let's not pretend this is that, even if that's how Ebro wants to play.
Both showed up at the event and did their thing. I don't see why Charlamagne had to take a picture with duke. It does more damage than good because it says "Yo I'm cool with this cat calling me a ? and not apologizing for it", which undermines Charlamagne's message, which was actually a good one. -
soul rattler wrote: »Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
Malcolm X said there isn't a black person in America he doesn't have use for.
Give me the full quote.soul rattler wrote: »If Malcolm X can put differences aside, so can Charlemagne and Ebro. If it's possible for him in the 1960s, it's good enough for them in 2017.
The example given was a white cop about to put his hands on MLK. Completely different story.
And what's the big cause they are putting their differences aside for? What exactly is the picture supposed to accomplish other than the false representation that they are cool? It would be one thing if you had blacks getting shot up out in the streets and Ebro and Charlamagne had to come together to literally save lives. Let's not pretend this is that, even if that's how Ebro wants to play.
Both showed up at the event and did their thing. I don't see why Charlamagne had to take a picture with duke. It does more damage than good because it says "Yo I'm cool with this cat calling me a ? and not apologizing for it", which undermines Charlamagne's message, which was actually a good one.
They not beefing over Charlamagne not taking the picture.. Ebro didn't even talk about it publicly until after Charlemagne went on Joes podcast fronting like Ebro was begging for a pic.. -
soul rattler wrote: »Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
Malcolm X said there isn't a black person in America he doesn't have use for.
If Malcolm X can put differences aside, so can Charlemagne and Ebro. If it's possible for him in the 1960s, it's good enough for them in 2017.
It also took time for him to get to that point...and everybody don't move at the same pace...plus ain't nobody obligated to forgive nobody. That's a personal decision you make
You're making two assumptions.
First, there is nothing that suggests that X had to mature to the point of speaking in support of King. From the jump, he was always there for black people, even if they weren't there for themselves.
Second, you don't have to forgive someone to put your differences to the side for a greater cause. To this day, I think X was justified in calling King a religious Uncle Tom. The leech-like effect that the black church has on black people, the devastating repercussions that intergration had on black economies, white privilege, etc all say that X was right. But just because you fundamentally disagree with someone doesn't mean you can't stand next to them for the greater good. And King never spoke ill of X.
Like I said, they did it in the midst of church bombings, dogs, fire hoses, and lynchings. But these two radio personalities can't take a ? picture together to show unity in opposition to the single worst president in American history? The ? ? -
soul rattler wrote: »Also, to whoever compared this to when Malcolm X put his differences with MLK aside to defend him against a white cop is completely off the rails. First of all, Ebro sure as hell ain't MLK. And second, if a cop was about to put his hands on Ebro, that's a completely different story. We're talking about a picture that is supposed to represent something false. Charlamagne ain't gotta stand for that. Especially in a social media age where it gets circulated everywhere and Charlamagne would constantly have to address it to explain how he didn't just validate the man who called him ? and who never apologized for it, which was his point on Joe Budden's podcast. Charlamagne is right about this one.
Malcolm X said there isn't a black person in America he doesn't have use for.
Give me the full quote.soul rattler wrote: »If Malcolm X can put differences aside, so can Charlemagne and Ebro. If it's possible for him in the 1960s, it's good enough for them in 2017.
The example given was a white cop about to put his hands on MLK. Completely different story.
And what's the big cause they are putting their differences aside for? What exactly is the picture supposed to accomplish other than the false representation that they are cool? It would be one thing if you had blacks getting shot up out in the streets and Ebro and Charlamagne had to come together to literally save lives. Let's not pretend this is that, even if that's how Ebro wants to play.
Both showed up at the event and did their thing. I don't see why Charlamagne had to take a picture with duke. It does more damage than good because it says "Yo I'm cool with this cat calling me a ? and not apologizing for it", which undermines Charlamagne's message, which was actually a good one.
A white reporter was interviewing Malcom X and quoted Thurgood Marshall saying there were some black people he, Thurgood, had no use for. X responded by saying that there isnt a black person in America that he doeant have use for.
The example wasn't just some random cop about to put hands on King. The example was X sending a wire to the police commissioner that if anything was to happen to King following a recent incident involving a black man being murdered, there would be reprecussions. -
soul rattler wrote: »
Both showed up at the event and did their thing. I don't see why Charlamagne had to take a picture with duke. It does more damage than good because it says "Yo I'm cool with this cat calling me a ? and not apologizing for it", which undermines Charlamagne's message, which was actually a good one.
A white reporter was interviewing Malcom X and quoted Thurgood Marshall saying there were some black people he, Thurgood, had no use for. X responded by saying that there isnt a black person in America that he doeant have use for.
The example wasn't just some random cop about to put hands on King. The example was X sending a wire to the police commissioner that if anything was to happen to King following a recent incident involving a black man being murdered, there would be reprecussions.
Again, massive disanalogies here. Charlamagne isn't worried about Ebro's safety at the hands of white oppressors. Of course any black man should come to another black man's defense at the hands of the oppressor. That's not what this is. It's not that big.
The point is whether Ebro should get a pass for calling Charlamagne a ? . He shouldn't. By your logic, anybody can denigrate anyone else's character without consequence, but Malcolm X never stood for that. He's saying he will stand by his brother if violence is ever threatened against him. We aren't talking about violence against Ebro. We're talking about whether Charlamagne should validate his criticisms of him. -
JokerzWyld wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »JokerzWyld wrote: »I saw Ebro at the 10/10/15 event taking pics with people; it's what he does.
I think CTG was wrong in this situation. You can't have meetings with Tomi Lahren who disparages black organizations and try to son a black dude at a meeting for a black organization. That's foul IMO
How is CTG wrong for not taking a pic w/ a ? he doesn't care for?
How ever you feel about him and that Tomi situation, that ? pic wasn't gonna change ur mind.
Y'all ? in here acting like y'all cool wit every MF you ever met in your life. That event wasn't about CTG and Ebro mending fences, it was about rights or voting(idk).
What's funny is had it came out that CTG wanted to take a pic w/ Ebro y'all be calling him lame.
My point is this: he wasn't cool with Tomi, but he went on her show which added to her brand for better or worse. She never altered her position on the subject of black organizations but he decided to meet with her again anyway. That's inconsistent with how Ebro was treated at a meeting for a black organization. Ebro never mentioned the slight, he just let it be. Charlemagne mentioned the encounter for cool points.
If you disagree that's fine, but it's not consistent with his precepts on slave-mindedness.
Charlamagne mentioned the encounter because it came up as part of a conversation when Joe Budden asked him about him and Hot 97...and the Tomi ? you're looking at way out of context. There's a difference in not getting along w/ a radio personality, especially another black man, for saying you're a ? and then also wanting to take a picture with you like everything is good vs. telling a white woman that trying to compare Black Lives Matter protesting police violence is the same as the KKK. Those are 2 very different sets of circumstances
I would be inclined to believe this but for the fact that this story was told on the Joe Budden Podcast, a man who Charlemagne called a woman-beater. So this idea that you can't bury the hatchet with a dude you dissed is officially debunked. -
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 wrote: »MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 wrote: »Unless the photo would have ended police bias toward black people forever what is the point of the photo. It was dope they went to the know your rights event for the cause but a photo ain't gunna fix injustice.
Trump ain't gunna be like "I saw a great great photo of CTG and Ebro and i want all police to know the rights these black men have. Every police officer who has bias toward black men and women called me personally last night and will treat all people fairly for the cultre."
The event wasn't going to do any of that either. That's a small minded position to take.
It all just speaks towards the larger issue of male ego and pride. More specifically in the black/urban community.
Honestly Kap ? me off because he doesn't ? get it. He has these programs and ? but the ? not even voting in his local election. The reason Ferguson had the issues with the police and the justice system out there is cause in a mostly black area ? ain't vote.
You sound like a parrot
? can say ? like that but offer no proof. The #1 right you have over the age of 18 is to vote for who runs the local ? in their community. Kap on anyone who questions my logic is an idiot. -
I REALLY GET BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE...
EBRO EXTENDED THE OLIVE BRANCH BY INVITING HIM THERE....
C THA ? ON SOME "WE DON'T HAVE TO BE FRIENDS TO COEXIST" ? ...
THEY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND STOP ACTING LIKE HOES...
