Is hov officially the GROAT?
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YesBar none.
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NoGoat, I thougjt Jay-z was a camel.
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NoRevolver Ocelot wrote: »trendsetta1030 wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »sapp08_2001 wrote: »trendsetta1030 wrote: »270crownst wrote: »50 don't have a diamond album..get rich or die trying haven't reach 9 mill yet...
What jay z cd is diamond? His highest sale is 5mill… facts
True Jay aint never had one of these
Neither does any of them..sapp08_2001 wrote: »5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z
1.Rakim
2.Scarface
3. LL Cool J
4. Nas
5. 2pac
So what's your point.
Pac is diamond
Which is why he wasn't highlighted you dumb ? .
Remove em frm tha list period tf wrong wit you -
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trendsetta1030 wrote: »Jay the GROAT cause he's the only one doing it at such a high level and remained in the lime light. Ya rakim and nas top level but they names aint making poppin like that
Nas & rakim also ain't sell out… diddy an jay z killed ny hiphop not the south let's be realistic now jay killed ny hiphop so he can stand out that's why he never signed nobody from ny that's why he ain't participate in the roc a fella freestyles he was always scare to get outshines an got mad when cam was becoming bigger
All i hear is a ? mad cause hov knows how to make music for a larger fan base and still keep his skill level on the mic up. Even hovs weak verses be better than half this ? out now -
NoThis ? is still going on? It's 69 votes no vs 37 votes yes
It's pretty one sided with almost double as no...let the thread die...questions been answered -
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YesWhen i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.
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NoI dont care
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This has been hilarious
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NoThis ? is still going on? It's 69 votes no vs 37 votes yes
It's pretty one sided with almost double as no...let the thread die...questions been answered
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NoFof
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NoWhen i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.
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NoWhen i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.
The only person Jay really most definitely put on was Bleek, Source Money and Cole. And only one of them had a good career. Everybody else it was Dame. Jay didn't discover Jeezy, or Ross. Nas put Cormega, Nature, Natshawn, AZ , Wiz and Jungle,Quan and the first to work with Ameri. And lets not forget Dave East. -
Someone in the 4:44 thread mentioned how Jay was never the best rapper at anytime during his career, I brushed it off and then gave it some serious thought and it was a somewhat valid point. I don't think jay is the best rapper or even top 3, however he has been the most consistent and had the most longevity of any artist dead or alive.
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Put it this way, biggie made jay-z seem average and jay was and obviously still is an excellent rapper. To me, biggie was the best rapper that ever lived, but 2pac was my favorite, mostly due to content and the way he delivered his vocals.
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NoSome one lock this
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Yestrendsetta1030 wrote: »270crownst wrote: »50 don't have a diamond album..get rich or die trying haven't reach 9 mill yet...
What jay z cd is diamond? His highest sale is 5mill… facts
How many albums you sold ? ? -
Yesnatural born sinners wrote: »Put it this way, biggie made jay-z seem average and jay was and obviously still is an excellent rapper. To me, biggie was the best rapper that ever lived, but 2pac was my favorite, mostly due to content and the way he delivered his vocals.
On what track?
BIG sounded like a clown on both records Jigga featured on
"get it...2...Pacs"
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Yespower_wisdom wrote: »When i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.
The only person Jay really most definitely put on was Bleek, Source Money and Cole. And only one of them had a good career. Everybody else it was Dame. Jay didn't discover Jeezy, or Ross. Nas put Cormega, Nature, Natshawn, AZ , Wiz and Jungle,Quan and the first to work with Ameri. And lets not forget Dave East.
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YesIt's gotta be Jay. I haven't even listened to 4:44 yet, but the man puts out great/amazing albums.....with the exception of Kingdom Come and Vol. 2 (a few good songs but nothing special honestly but I know I am in the minority on that one).
And based on what I am hearing about the new album, old man is still going.
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Nopower_wisdom wrote: »When i judge a rapper i just technical abilities, catalog, and impact. I think he check the box more than any other rapper imo. To me Jay and Dre got the strongest lineage in rap as far as who they put on or influenced.
The only person Jay really most definitely put on was Bleek, Source Money and Cole. And only one of them had a good career. Everybody else it was Dame. Jay didn't discover Jeezy, or Ross. Nas put Cormega, Nature, Natshawn, AZ , Wiz and Jungle,Quan and the first to work with Ameri. And lets not forget Dave East.
Ross himself said Jay and LA Reid put him on.
Ross had a deal with Slip n Slid first. I believe Bleek brought him to their attention. Jay didn't get on a Ross record and make it hot as a first single. And he didn't feature Ross on his record to introduce him to the public. Ross made himself a star with hard work.
Just Blaze is a producer. That ? don't count. Plus he did records with other rapper before Jay. Kanye brought Lupe out to the world on Touch the sky. But Lupe had a deal already to be honest. Jay didn't put him on either. Dame put Ye on not Jay. Jay had nothing to do with that album. But he did put on Ja Rule.
Put on mean to break the artist to the world or the first to sign them right?