2017 NBA Off Season Thread: Draft & Free Agency & Summer League

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  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.
  • Beta
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    Then youre changing th-

    Smh these ? is ?

    I'm done man
  • Shizlansky
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    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    Then youre changing th-

    Smh these ? is ?

    I'm done man

    But he's still not the best two way player at his position
  • AZTG
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    Beta wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    Cool but you agreed to what he said before I did and the bolded ain't even the topic at hand. Dont do an axel and shizlansky

    Them ? need to jump in front of brinks trucks

    I still agree. Wall, CP3, Mike Conely are the best 2 way pgs in the league. Out of those 3 I cant be mad at either one, but im inclined to go with Wall.

    I was just saying the title of 2 way player is important for role players and 3rd option type players but its kind of meaningless for Stars/Elite players
  • Beta
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    AZTG wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    Cool but you agreed to what he said before I did and the bolded ain't even the topic at hand. Dont do an axel and shizlansky

    Them ? need to jump in front of brinks trucks

    I still agree. Wall, CP3, Mike Conely are the best 2 way pgs in the league. Out of those 3 I cant be mad at either one, but im inclined to go with Wall.

    I was just saying the title of 2 way player is important for role players and 3rd option type players but its kind of meaningless for Stars/Elite players

    It's all good. I get what you mean

    Thanks for not bringing up IT 4 diff times like other ? ? in this discussion

    Wall a much better playmaker than Conley so he edges him out. It's really Wall and CP3 and one is trending down with declining defense as the years go on. Which is why I agree with wall
  • Shizlansky
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    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    Then youre changing th-

    Smh these ? is ?

    I'm done man

    But he's still not the best two way player at his position

    You said curry is a better two way player I dont wanna hear from you no more tonight

    Drop that post.

    Curry offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wall offense


    Wall defense >>>>>>>>>>> Curry defense

    So he's a overall better player.
  • Beta
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    Mr Patel I said I dont wanna hear from you
  • Shizlansky
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    Beta wrote: »
    Mr Patel I said I dont wanna hear from you

    I know it's hard for you not to be on here but if you really try you may be able to log off.
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Who is Wall shutting down at the PG position though.

    Who is shutting down anyone at That position
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    ? we not talking overall I asked u name players that were better at both DEFENSE and OFFENSE, n her u come talm bout Steph n Russ.

    Next time someone say kawhi the best 2 way I want yall in here saying the same ? lol
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    Then youre changing th-

    Smh these ? is ?

    I'm done man

    But he's still not the best two way player at his position

    You said curry is a better two way player I dont wanna hear from you no more tonight

    Drop that post.

    Curry offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wall offense


    Wall defense >>>>>>>>>>> Curry defense

    So he's a overall better player.

    This wasn't the question or what wall said tho, how is someone a better 2 way player when they only better at one of the ways, make it make sense. That's like saying Bron a better shooter between him and Klay cuz he better overall
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    Then youre changing th-

    Smh these ? is ?

    I'm done man

    But he's still not the best two way player at his position

    You said curry is a better two way player I dont wanna hear from you no more tonight

    Drop that post.

    Curry offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wall offense


    Wall defense >>>>>>>>>>> Curry defense

    So he's a overall better player.

    This wasn't the question or what wall said tho

    Curry offense is Light years ahead Wall

    And Wall defense ain't that greatly ahead of Currys

    So combine, he's not better.

  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    AZTG wrote: »
    I get the whole "two way player" thing but end of the day, its about how good you are at your position.

    Lets say John Wall is the best 2 way player pg in the league, im still taking Curry, Westbrook, CP3 to start on my team before John Wall for sure, and Mike Conley and John Wall pretty much tied for me.

    So, with that said, being the best 2 way gaurd is a nice little title but who really cares when you are the 4-7th best point gaurd?

    No diss to Wall btw. Im a fan and being arguably the 4th best pg in the league deserves props.

    That's how I'm looking at it

    KL is he best two way SF but LBJ and Durant is ahead of him at his position overall.

    Then youre changing th-

    Smh these ? is ?

    I'm done man

    But he's still not the best two way player at his position

    You said curry is a better two way player I dont wanna hear from you no more tonight

    Drop that post.

    Curry offense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wall offense


    Wall defense >>>>>>>>>>> Curry defense

    So he's a overall better player.

    This wasn't the question or what wall said tho

    Curry offense is Light years ahead Wall

    And Wall defense ain't that greatly ahead of Currys

    So combine, he's not better.

    NOBODY said wall>curry tho soooo

    For the last time...

    Name a 2 way player that is actually better at BOTH Ways.
  • NCswag
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    Big ? is a 6 6 shooting guard with handles. And he can't shoot the 3. You better be a 2 way player ? .
  • NoCanadiansEH
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTyylkb15FA

    Nice interviewer lol hes always been lowkey

  • 5th Letter
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    I thought he meant 2 way player in terms of playing and guarding multiple positions.
  • BlackAX410
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Who is Wall shutting down at the PG position though.

    Exactly lol
  • Shizlansky
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    To be real. ? all the ? I said about two way player. Because, All these ? is two way players.

    They all play offense and defense. Ain't like these ? sub out on defense.

    And the say your the best two way player is saying your the best player at your position and he is not
  • joeyfkncrakk
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    Wall is the best 2 way point guard tho... don't understand the rift he's top 3 point guards period as well
  • Shizlansky
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    Let me put this in simple form so Laura's dad can understand

    Let's say Wall offenseive game is a 89and defense is a 80

    Curry offense is a 98 and defense is 75

    Overall Curry would be a better two way player player because his offensive game is that extremely better than Wall offensive game

    Because they both getting chopped up by these scoring PGs anyways.
  • Beta
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Let me put this in simple form so Laura's dad can understand

    Let's say Wall offenseive game is a 89and defense is a 80

    Curry offense is a 98 and defense is 75

    Overall Curry would be a better two way player player because his offensive game is that extremely better than Wall offensive game

    Because they both getting chopped up by these scoring PGs anyways.

    Aziz I said stop it

    Curry been getting hidden on D on the warriors for years but you say he's a better player on both sides of the ball than wall which is false


    Stop posting about the NBA it isn't for you my ?



  • Shizlansky
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    Naw ?

    When you say you're the best two way player at your position, your saying you're offensive and defensive game is collectively better than everybody else.

    Which means your the best player at your position and Wall ain't the best player at his position.