Questions and Statements about ? ...

Options
1115116118120121127

Comments

  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    It takes more then faith to enter the Kingdom of ? , your hearts in the right direction, but your head is fixated on the cover, refusing to dig deeper. The Bible will teach you more if you let it, your letting being a Christian stop you from being one with ? .

    Oh, it just takes faith. The problem is that people think that faith means you have to stand still. Faith does move; it does labor...but it does so trusting that ? is who He says He is.
  • mryounggun
    mryounggun Members Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    ehhh, not really cause.. Yes you need faith.. But once things start happin'n in your favor, b'? u living with the word of ? and being obedient... U cant testity to people that ? is blessing you.. But what will they say " aww ? u just lucky"...

    Can u prove to someone that ? blessed you????

    No, that's not possible. But that's what I'm saying. I can't. You can't. NO ONE CAN. NOR CAN YOU PROVE THAT THE BIBLE IS AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF ? 'S WORD. So why try, B? When you do, all you do is lose credibility. So all I'm saying is that when a ? asks you how you know that ? has blessed you or how you know the Bible is actually ? 's law and has not been altered, 'Because I prayed for understanding and I have faith that this is his will' or 'Because I have faith that it is.' is a perfectly OK reply. There is nothing wrong with that B.
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    mryounggun wrote: »
    I'm still confused, Dro. Where's the evidence that the Bible is accurate? Not why you believe it is. 'Through prayer and askin for understanding from ? '. Again, what exactly does that mean. You're kinda speaking in a very ambiguous way. Did you pray for understanding one evening and then soon after you were confronted with some sort of sign that you took as confirmation and answer to your prayers?

    And if the answer to that question is 'Because I have faith that the Bible is accurate and thats enough for me.' - which by the way I feel like is the only credible answer to that specific question - then why not just say that? Not saying that actually IS your answer. Just an example.

    Help me out.

    Okay..I see where you coming from. Lemme get a shot at this:

    Dro is giving you the internal degree on the Biblical belief in the spiritual aspect of it (prayer and The Most High speaking in the central piece of our human existence..our SPIRIT. Yah is spirit and we're made in His image so he's speaking from spirit to spirit because as believers we must worship Him in spirit and truth (John 4:24) which is the quality essence of obtaining knowledge and understanding. So if you don't accept The Most High's spirit from within, which is through the Messiah because he's the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and and actually walked among the people speaking it and lived it, how can you accept His truth? But to answer your question lets walk out the external degree:


    A lot of people don't realize the Bible in it's present form wasn't written like you see it now (chapter and verses). It was derived from the ancient Hebrew manuscripts, which was written in one continuous flow and is supplemented by the discovery of The Dead Sea Scrolls (dated from 200 B.C. to 68 A.D.and matches the manuscripts of the Hebrew scrolls and maintains it's accuracy), the Septuagint (a third-century B.C. Greek translation of the Old Testament. The time spans of the The New Testament remains unparalleled 99.5 % textually pure because it was written in Greek with additional 20,000 languages.

    The prophecies of the Messiah life, death and resurrection from the Old Testament prophets (Ezekiel, Daniel and Isaiah) and their other historical prophecies in detail:

    (1) Some time before 500 B.C. the prophet Daniel proclaimed that Israel's long-awaited Messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the Messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of Jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of Jesus Christ. The decree regarding the restoration of Jerusalem was issued by Persia's King Artaxerxes to the Hebrew priest Ezra in 458 B.C., 483 years later the ministry of Jesus Christ began in Galilee. (Remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of Christ's ministry is set by most historians at about 26 A.D. Also note that from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D. is just one year.) Jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in 70 A.D. came the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus.

    (2) In approximately 700 B.C. the prophet Micah named the tiny village of Bethlehem as the birthplace of Israel's Messiah (Micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of Christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history.

    (3) In the fifth century B.C. a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave—thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used—just as predicted—for the burial of poor aliens (Matthew 27:3-10).

    (4) Some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both Israel's King David and the prophet Zechariah described the Messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (Psalm 22 and 34:20; Zechariah 12:10). Again, historians and New Testament writers confirm the fulfillment: Jesus of Nazareth died on a Roman cross, and his extraordinarily quick death eliminated the need for the usual breaking of bones. A spear was thrust into his side to verify that he was, indeed, dead.

    (5) The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile

    (6) Mighty Babylon, 196 miles square, was enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said by unanimous popular opinion to be indestructible, yet two Bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets further claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travelers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved for use as building material (Isaiah 13:17-22 and Jeremiah 51:26, 43). Their description is, in fact, the well-documented history of the famous citadel.

    (7) The exact location and construction sequence of Jerusalem's nine suburbs was predicted by Jeremiah about 2600 years ago. He referred to the time of this building project as "the last days," that is, the time period of Israel's second rebirth as a nation in the land of Palestine (Jeremiah 31:38-40). This rebirth became history in 1948, and the construction of the nine suburbs has gone forward precisely in the locations and in the sequence predicted.

    (8) The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 B.C. and the second in 70 A.D. ? 's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24).
    This prophetic statement sweeps across 3500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

    (9) Jeremiah predicted that despite its fertility and despite the accessibility of its water supply, the land of Edom (today a part of Jordan) would become a barren, uninhabited wasteland (Jeremiah 49:15-20; Ezekiel 25:12-14). His description accurately tells the history of that now bleak region.

    (10) Joshua prophesied that Jericho would be rebuilt by one man. He also said that the man's eldest son would die when the reconstruction began and that his youngest son would die when the work reached completion (Joshua 6:26). About five centuries later this prophecy found its fulfillment in the life and family of a man named Hiel (1 Kings 16:33-34).

    (11) The day of Elijah's supernatural departure from Earth was predicted unanimously—and accurately, according to the eye-witness account—by a group of fifty prophets (2 Kings 2:3-11).


    There is every reason to expect that there are other remaining prophecies, especially slated for "time of the end," also will be fulfilled as well which is unfolding (recent natural disasters, numerous upcoming wars, more anti-christs.)

    I hope this helps...
  • mryounggun
    mryounggun Members Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    Okay..I see where you coming from. Lemme get a shot at this:

    Dro is giving you the internal degree on the Biblical belief in the spiritual aspect of it (prayer and The Most High speaking in the central piece of our human existence..our SPIRIT. Yah is spirit and we're made in His image so he's speaking from spirit to spirit because as believers we must worship Him in spirit and truth (John 4:24) which is the quality essence of obtaining knowledge and understanding. So if you don't accept The Most High's spirit from within, which is through the Messiah because he's the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and and actually walked among the people speaking it and lived it, how can you accept His truth? But to answer your question lets walk out the external degree:


    A lot of people don't realize the Bible in it's present form wasn't written like you see it now (chapter and verses). It was derived from the ancient Hebrew manuscripts, which was written in one continuous flow and is supplemented by the discovery of The Dead Sea Scrolls (dated from 200 B.C. to 68 A.D.and matches the manuscripts of the Hebrew scrolls and maintains it's accuracy), the Septuagint (a third-century B.C. Greek translation of the Old Testament. The time spans of the The New Testament remains unparalleled 99.5 % textually pure because it was written in Greek with additional 20,000 languages.

    The prophecies of the Messiah life, death and resurrection from the Old Testament prophets (Ezekiel, Daniel and Isaiah) and their other historical prophecies in detail:

    (1) Some time before 500 B.C. the prophet Daniel proclaimed that Israel's long-awaited Messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the Messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of Jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of Jesus Christ. The decree regarding the restoration of Jerusalem was issued by Persia's King Artaxerxes to the Hebrew priest Ezra in 458 B.C., 483 years later the ministry of Jesus Christ began in Galilee. (Remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of Christ's ministry is set by most historians at about 26 A.D. Also note that from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D. is just one year.) Jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in 70 A.D. came the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus.

    (2) In approximately 700 B.C. the prophet Micah named the tiny village of Bethlehem as the birthplace of Israel's Messiah (Micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of Christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history.

    (3) In the fifth century B.C. a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave—thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used—just as predicted—for the burial of poor aliens (Matthew 27:3-10).

    (4) Some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both Israel's King David and the prophet Zechariah described the Messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (Psalm 22 and 34:20; Zechariah 12:10). Again, historians and New Testament writers confirm the fulfillment: Jesus of Nazareth died on a Roman cross, and his extraordinarily quick death eliminated the need for the usual breaking of bones. A spear was thrust into his side to verify that he was, indeed, dead.

    (5) The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile

    (6) Mighty Babylon, 196 miles square, was enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said by unanimous popular opinion to be indestructible, yet two Bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets further claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travelers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved for use as building material (Isaiah 13:17-22 and Jeremiah 51:26, 43). Their description is, in fact, the well-documented history of the famous citadel.

    (7) The exact location and construction sequence of Jerusalem's nine suburbs was predicted by Jeremiah about 2600 years ago. He referred to the time of this building project as "the last days," that is, the time period of Israel's second rebirth as a nation in the land of Palestine (Jeremiah 31:38-40). This rebirth became history in 1948, and the construction of the nine suburbs has gone forward precisely in the locations and in the sequence predicted.

    (8) The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 B.C. and the second in 70 A.D. ? 's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24).
    This prophetic statement sweeps across 3500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

    (9) Jeremiah predicted that despite its fertility and despite the accessibility of its water supply, the land of Edom (today a part of Jordan) would become a barren, uninhabited wasteland (Jeremiah 49:15-20; Ezekiel 25:12-14). His description accurately tells the history of that now bleak region.

    (10) Joshua prophesied that Jericho would be rebuilt by one man. He also said that the man's eldest son would die when the reconstruction began and that his youngest son would die when the work reached completion (Joshua 6:26). About five centuries later this prophecy found its fulfillment in the life and family of a man named Hiel (1 Kings 16:33-34).

    (11) The day of Elijah's supernatural departure from Earth was predicted unanimously—and accurately, according to the eye-witness account—by a group of fifty prophets (2 Kings 2:3-11).


    There is every reason to expect that there are other remaining prophecies, especially slated for "time of the end," also will be fulfilled as well which is unfolding (recent natural disasters, numerous upcoming wars, more anti-christs.)

    I hope this helps...

    That's where you lost me, B. Forgive me if I don't follow. I don't see how you get the bolded from everything you stated before that.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    Okay..I see where you coming from. Lemme get a shot at this:

    Dro is giving you the internal degree on the Biblical belief in the spiritual aspect of it (prayer and The Most High speaking in the central piece of our human existence..our SPIRIT. Yah is spirit and we're made in His image so he's speaking from spirit to spirit because as believers we must worship Him in spirit and truth (John 4:24) which is the quality essence of obtaining knowledge and understanding. So if you don't accept The Most High's spirit from within, which is through the Messiah because he's the Word made flesh (John 1:14) and and actually walked among the people speaking it and lived it, how can you accept His truth? But to answer your question lets walk out the external degree:


    A lot of people don't realize the Bible in it's present form wasn't written like you see it now (chapter and verses). It was derived from the ancient Hebrew manuscripts, which was written in one continuous flow and is supplemented by the discovery of The Dead Sea Scrolls (dated from 200 B.C. to 68 A.D.and matches the manuscripts of the Hebrew scrolls and maintains it's accuracy), the Septuagint (a third-century B.C. Greek translation of the Old Testament. The time spans of the The New Testament remains unparalleled 99.5 % textually pure because it was written in Greek with additional 20,000 languages.

    The prophecies of the Messiah life, death and resurrection from the Old Testament prophets (Ezekiel, Daniel and Isaiah) and their other historical prophecies in detail:

    (1) Some time before 500 B.C. the prophet Daniel proclaimed that Israel's long-awaited Messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the Messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of Jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of Jesus Christ. The decree regarding the restoration of Jerusalem was issued by Persia's King Artaxerxes to the Hebrew priest Ezra in 458 B.C., 483 years later the ministry of Jesus Christ began in Galilee. (Remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of Christ's ministry is set by most historians at about 26 A.D. Also note that from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D. is just one year.) Jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in 70 A.D. came the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus.

    (2) In approximately 700 B.C. the prophet Micah named the tiny village of Bethlehem as the birthplace of Israel's Messiah (Micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of Christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history.

    (3) In the fifth century B.C. a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave—thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used—just as predicted—for the burial of poor aliens (Matthew 27:3-10).

    (4) Some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both Israel's King David and the prophet Zechariah described the Messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (Psalm 22 and 34:20; Zechariah 12:10). Again, historians and New Testament writers confirm the fulfillment: Jesus of Nazareth died on a Roman cross, and his extraordinarily quick death eliminated the need for the usual breaking of bones. A spear was thrust into his side to verify that he was, indeed, dead.

    (5) The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile

    (6) Mighty Babylon, 196 miles square, was enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said by unanimous popular opinion to be indestructible, yet two Bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets further claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travelers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved for use as building material (Isaiah 13:17-22 and Jeremiah 51:26, 43). Their description is, in fact, the well-documented history of the famous citadel.

    (7) The exact location and construction sequence of Jerusalem's nine suburbs was predicted by Jeremiah about 2600 years ago. He referred to the time of this building project as "the last days," that is, the time period of Israel's second rebirth as a nation in the land of Palestine (Jeremiah 31:38-40). This rebirth became history in 1948, and the construction of the nine suburbs has gone forward precisely in the locations and in the sequence predicted.

    (8) The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 B.C. and the second in 70 A.D. ? 's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24).
    This prophetic statement sweeps across 3500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

    (9) Jeremiah predicted that despite its fertility and despite the accessibility of its water supply, the land of Edom (today a part of Jordan) would become a barren, uninhabited wasteland (Jeremiah 49:15-20; Ezekiel 25:12-14). His description accurately tells the history of that now bleak region.

    (10) Joshua prophesied that Jericho would be rebuilt by one man. He also said that the man's eldest son would die when the reconstruction began and that his youngest son would die when the work reached completion (Joshua 6:26). About five centuries later this prophecy found its fulfillment in the life and family of a man named Hiel (1 Kings 16:33-34).

    (11) The day of Elijah's supernatural departure from Earth was predicted unanimously—and accurately, according to the eye-witness account—by a group of fifty prophets (2 Kings 2:3-11).


    There is every reason to expect that there are other remaining prophecies, especially slated for "time of the end," also will be fulfilled as well which is unfolding (recent natural disasters, numerous upcoming wars, more anti-christs.)

    I hope this helps...

    Amen. Nice break down. The prophecies alone are enough reason to believe that the Bible is 100% accurate.
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    mryounggun wrote: »
    That's where you lost me, B. Forgive me if I don't follow. I don't see how you get the bolded from everything you stated before that.


    What is it that you don't understand? My last post was merely giving you a detailed summary on the Bible and it's accurate depictions prophesied by the prophets Ezekiel, Daniel and Isaiah. The Old Testament is a shadow of the New Testament therefore everything that was prophesied by them have come to pass so far and those were just the tip of the iceberg. You either gonna take two sides. Belief or unbelief.
  • mryounggun
    mryounggun Members Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    What is it that you don't understand? My last post was merely giving you a detailed summary on the Bible and it's accurate depictions prophesied by the prophets Ezekiel, Daniel and Isaiah. The Old Testament is a shadow of the New Testament therefore everything that was prophesied by them have come to pass so far and those were just the tip of the iceberg. You either gonna take two sides. Belief or unbelief.

    Ok, B.......
  • waterproof
    waterproof Members Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    okay..i see where you coming from. Lemme get a shot at this:

    Dro is giving you the internal degree on the biblical belief in the spiritual aspect of it (prayer and the most high speaking in the central piece of our human existence..our spirit. Yah is spirit and we're made in his image so he's speaking from spirit to spirit because as believers we must worship him in spirit and truth (john 4:24) which is the quality essence of obtaining knowledge and understanding. So if you don't accept the most high's spirit from within, which is through the messiah because he's the word made flesh (john 1:14) and and actually walked among the people speaking it and lived it, how can you accept his truth? But to answer your question lets walk out the external degree:


    A lot of people don't realize the bible in it's present form wasn't written like you see it now (chapter and verses). It was derived from the ancient hebrew manuscripts, which was written in one continuous flow and is supplemented by the discovery of the dead sea scrolls (dated from 200 b.c. To 68 a.d.and matches the manuscripts of the hebrew scrolls and maintains it's accuracy), the septuagint (a third-century b.c. Greek translation of the old testament. The time spans of the the new testament remains unparalleled 99.5 % textually pure because it was written in greek with additional 20,000 languages.

    The prophecies of the messiah life, death and resurrection from the old testament prophets (ezekiel, daniel and isaiah) and their other historical prophecies in detail:

    (1) some time before 500 b.c. The prophet daniel proclaimed that israel's long-awaited messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild jerusalem (daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of jesus christ. The decree regarding the restoration of jerusalem was issued by persia's king artaxerxes to the hebrew priest ezra in 458 b.c., 483 years later the ministry of jesus christ began in galilee. (remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of christ's ministry is set by most historians at about 26 a.d. Also note that from 1 b.c. To 1 a.d. Is just one year.) jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in 70 a.d. Came the destruction of jerusalem by titus.

    (2) in approximately 700 b.c. The prophet micah named the tiny village of bethlehem as the birthplace of israel's messiah (micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history.

    (3) in the fifth century b.c. A prophet named zechariah declared that the messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave—thirty pieces of silver, according to jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for jerusalem's poor foreigners (zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to judas iscariot for betraying jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used—just as predicted—for the burial of poor aliens (matthew 27:3-10).

    (4) some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both israel's king david and the prophet zechariah described the messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (psalm 22 and 34:20; zechariah 12:10). Again, historians and new testament writers confirm the fulfillment: Jesus of nazareth died on a roman cross, and his extraordinarily quick death eliminated the need for the usual breaking of bones. A spear was thrust into his side to verify that he was, indeed, dead.

    (5) the prophet isaiah foretold that a conqueror named cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable babylon and subdue egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said isaiah, would decide to let the jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before cyrus was born, 180 years before cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the jews were taken into exile

    (6) mighty babylon, 196 miles square, was enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said by unanimous popular opinion to be indestructible, yet two bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets further claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travelers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved for use as building material (isaiah 13:17-22 and jeremiah 51:26, 43). Their description is, in fact, the well-documented history of the famous citadel.

    (7) the exact location and construction sequence of jerusalem's nine suburbs was predicted by jeremiah about 2600 years ago. He referred to the time of this building project as "the last days," that is, the time period of israel's second rebirth as a nation in the land of palestine (jeremiah 31:38-40). This rebirth became history in 1948, and the construction of the nine suburbs has gone forward precisely in the locations and in the sequence predicted.

    (8) the prophet moses foretold (with some additions by jeremiah and jesus) that the ancient jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as rome). The second conqueror, moses said, would take the jews captive to egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 b.c. And the second in 70 a.d. ? 's spokesmen said, further, that the jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the jews would one day return to the land of palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (deuteronomy 29; isaiah 11:11-13; jeremiah 25:11; hosea 3:4-5 and luke 21:23-24).
    This prophetic statement sweeps across 3500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

    (9) jeremiah predicted that despite its fertility and despite the accessibility of its water supply, the land of edom (today a part of jordan) would become a barren, uninhabited wasteland (jeremiah 49:15-20; ezekiel 25:12-14). His description accurately tells the history of that now bleak region.

    (10) joshua prophesied that jericho would be rebuilt by one man. He also said that the man's eldest son would die when the reconstruction began and that his youngest son would die when the work reached completion (joshua 6:26). About five centuries later this prophecy found its fulfillment in the life and family of a man named hiel (1 kings 16:33-34).

    (11) the day of elijah's supernatural departure from earth was predicted unanimously—and accurately, according to the eye-witness account—by a group of fifty prophets (2 kings 2:3-11).


    There is every reason to expect that there are other remaining prophecies, especially slated for "time of the end," also will be fulfilled as well which is unfolding (recent natural disasters, numerous upcoming wars, more anti-christs.)

    i hope this helps...


    tabernacle!!!!!!!!! AND IF I MAY ADD THE BIBLE PROPHESIED THE destruction and the invasion of EGYPT and told who was going to do it and what will happen to the original egyptians and where are they today in Africa. MY ELOHIM IS THE TRUTH AND ALL MIGHTY
  • waterproof
    waterproof Members Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    30:1 The word of YHWH came again unto me, saying,

    30:2 Son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Sovereign YHWH; Howl ye, Woe worth the day

    30:3 For the day is near, even the day of YHWH is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

    30:4 And the sword shall come upon Egypt, and great pain shall be in Ethiopia, when the slain shall fall in Egypt, and they shall take away her multitude, and her foundations shall be broken down.

    30:5 Ethiopia, and Libya, and Lydia, and all the mingled people, and Chub, and the men of the land that is in league, shall fall with them by the sword.

    30:6 Thus saith YHWH; They also that uphold Egypt shall fall; and the pride of her power shall come down: from the tower of Syene shall they fall in it by the sword, saith the Sovereign YHWH.

    30:7 And they shall be desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities shall be in the midst of the cities that are wasted.

    30:8 And they shall know that I am YHWH, when I have set a fire in Egypt, and when all her helpers shall be destroyed.

    30:9 In that day shall messengers go forth from me in ships to make the careless Ethiopians afraid, and great pain shall come upon them, as in the day of Egypt: for, lo, it cometh.

    30:10 Thus saith the Sovereign YHWH; I will also make the multitude of Egypt to cease by the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon.

    30:11 He and his people with him, the terrible of the nations, shall be brought to destroy the land: and they shall draw their swords against Egypt, and fill the land with the slain.

    30:12 And I will make the rivers dry, and sell the land into the hand of the wicked: and I will make the land waste, and all that is therein, by the hand of strangers: I YHWH have spoken it.

    30:13 Thus saith the Sovereign YHWH; I will also destroy the idols, and I will cause their images to cease out of Noph; and there shall be no more a prince of the land of Egypt: and I will put a fear in the land of Egypt.

    30:14 And I will make Pathros desolate, and will set fire in Zoan, and will execute judgments in No.

    30:15 And I will pour my fury upon Sin, the strength of Egypt; and I will cut off the multitude of No.

    30:16 And I will set fire in Egypt: Sin shall have great pain, and No shall be rent asunder, and Noph shall have distresses daily.

    30:17 The young men of Aven and of Pi-beseth shall fall by the sword: and these cities shall go into captivity.

    30:18 At Tehaphnehes also the day shall be darkened, when I shall break there the yokes of Egypt: and the pomp of her strength shall cease in her: as for her, a cloud shall cover her, and her daughters shall go into captivity.

    30:19 Thus will I execute judgments in Egypt: and they shall know that I am YHWH.

    30:20 And it came to pass in the eleventh year, in the first month, in the seventh day of the month, that the word of YHWH came unto me, saying,

    30:21 Son of man, I have broken the arm of Pharaoh king of Egypt; and, lo, it shall not be bound up to be healed, to put a roller to bind it, to make it strong to hold the sword.

    30:22 Therefore thus saith the Sovereign YHWH; Behold, I am against Pharaoh king of Egypt, and will break his arms, the strong, and that which was broken; and I will cause the sword to fall out of his hand.

    30:23 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries.

    30:24 And I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and put my sword in his hand: but I will break Pharaoh's arms, and he shall groan before him with the groanings of a deadly wounded man.

    30:25 But I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, and the arms of Pharaoh shall fall down; and they shall know that I am YHWH, when I shall put my sword into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall stretch it out upon the land of Egypt.

    30:26 And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and disperse them among the countries; and they shall know that I am YHWH.
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — Tens of thousands of Somalis are feared dead in the world's worst famine in a generation, the U.N. said Wednesday, and the U.S. said it will allow emergency funds to be spent in areas controlled by al-Qaida-linked militants as long as the fighters do not interfere with aid distributions.

    Exhausted, rail-thin women are stumbling into refugee camps in Kenya and Ethiopia with dead babies and bleeding feet, having left weaker family members behind along the way.

    "Somalia is facing its worst food security crisis in the last 20 years," said Mark Bowden, the U.N.'s top official in charge of humanitarian aid in Somalia. "This desperate situation requires urgent action to save lives ... it's likely that conditions will deteriorate further in six months."

    The crisis is the worst since 1991-92, when hundreds of thousands of Somalis starved to death, Bowden said. That famine prompted intervention by an international peacekeeping force, but it eventually pulled out after two American Black Hawk helicopters were shot down in 1993.

    Since then, Western nations have mainly sought to contain the threat of terrorism from Somalia — an anarchic nation where the weak government battles Islamic militants on land and pirates hijack ships for millions of dollars at sea.

    Oxfam said $1 billion is needed for famine relief. On Wednesday, the U.S. announced an additional $28 million in emergency funding on top of the $431 million in assistance already given this year.

    Most importantly, as long as the Islamists don't interfere with aid distributions, those new U.S. funds aren't restricted under rules implemented in 2009 that are designed to keep food and money from being stolen by the insurgency.

    "If (the insurgents) are willing to allow access we are willing to stand fully with the humanitarian actors," said Dr. Raj Shah, head of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

    Aid groups have repeatedly called for the restrictions to be lifted and say the rules severely limited their operations in the past two years. U.S. humanitarian contributions in Somalia fell from $237 million in 2008 to $29 million last year.

    "We've seen a very large shortfall over the past few years given the political restrictions attached to humanitarian funding," said Tanja Schumer of the Somalia NGO Consortium, which represents 78 aid agencies working on Somalia. "To get American money we have to vouch for all our contractors and all our local partners and that is tricky."

    Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, blamed al-Shabab for exacerbating the crisis.

    "The reason the aid hasn't gone in sufficient quantities into south and central Somalia is because al-Shabab has prevented those capable of delivering large quantities of aid from having access — and when they have had access they've taxed them, harassed them, killed them, kidnapped them," Rice told reporters at U.N. headquarters in New York.

    Somalia is the most dangerous country in the world to work in, according to the U.N.'s World Food Program, which has lost 14 relief workers in the past few years. Kidnappings, killings and attacks on aid convoys occur frequently. Two years ago WFP pulled out of Islamist-controlled southern Somalia after the rebels demanded cash payments and other concessions.

    U.S. military operations against terrorism suspects also have disrupted humanitarian operations, said Bowden. Insurgents vowed to target foreign aid workers after a U.S. missile strike killed the head of the Islamist al-Shabab militia and 24 other people in 2008. Aden Hashi Ayro was reputedly al-Qaida's commander in Somalia and linked to a string of attacks on foreign aid workers and journalists.

    But WFP head Josette Sheeran said the agency is willing to return to southern Somalia if the insurgents guarantee safe passage and free access to aid. Two regions of Somalia — Bakool and Lower Shabelle — are suffering from famine and eight more are at risk.

    "We are absolutely fully committed to going where the hungry are," she said.

    The Horn of Africa is suffering a devastating drought compounded by war, neglect, poor land policies and spiraling prices. Some areas in the region have not had such a low rainfall in 60 years, aid group Oxfam said. Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti have all been badly affected, and Eritrea is also believed to be suffering, although its repressive government does not release figures.

    Yet only parts of Somalia are technically suffering from famine, defined as when two adults or four children per 10,000 people die of hunger each day and a third of children are acutely malnourished.

    In some areas of Somalia, six people are dying a day and more than half of children are acutely malnourished, Bowden said. Prices of staple foods have increased 270 percent over the last year, compounding the misery.

    Somalia's civil war is partly to blame, said Joakim Gundel, who heads Katuni Consult, a Nairobi-based company often asked to evaluate international aid efforts in Somalia.

    He said aid groups found fundraising easier if they blamed natural disaster rather admitting the emergency was partly caused by a complex, 20-year civil war worsened by international apathy and incompetence.

    "There is no clear cut answer," he said. "People are suffering and there is a need to respond. But drought is not the only cause. Conflict is a key reason and it is not being addressed properly."

    So these poor people are starving, thirsty, malnourished and dying. Where is ? ? If this joke really does exist, where is he? We all know prayer isn't need, we all know ? could obviously see this tragedy. Jesus made food for a bunch of people who needed it, why can't this happen here? Why can the drought not be taken care of? Why not provide these people with fresh water from rain, and food/crops to feed themselves and children? Never have I once in my life heard of a story like this and a "miracle" happens. If ? is real, he's some sick twisted dude then. I'm sure if the "devil" had the power, he'd do more good than ? .
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    This is tragic, Vibe. But I find as much as you want ? to be there in this trying time for Somalia, you don't want ? when things are going good. ? is a joke even when people do talk about the "miracles" that happen in their lives.
  • DRO
    DRO Members Posts: 9,943 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    vibe86 wrote: »
    so these poor people are starving, thirsty, malnourished and dying. Where is ? ? If this joke really does exist, where is he? We all know prayer isn't need, we all know ? could obviously see this tragedy. Jesus made food for a bunch of people who needed it, why can't this happen here? Why can the drought not be taken care of? Why not provide these people with fresh water from rain, and food/crops to feed themselves and children? Never have i once in my life heard of a story like this and a "miracle" happens. If ? is real, he's some sick twisted dude then. I'm sure if the "devil" had the power, he'd do more good than ? .

    question...

    Have you personaly sent any aid/money to help them?
  • fiat_money
    fiat_money Members Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    SMH @ ? experiencing famines in 2011.

    Lauce.


    And oh yeah, "? doesn't exist. If he did...'mysterious ways'. Hey look, I'm an atheist...yadda yadda yadda.".
  • Olorun22
    Olorun22 Members Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    So are we gonna end up like the Native Americans?
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    Smh, at some of you arrogant, ignorant ? thinking famine can't touch you because you can go to Dominicks or Food Lion, like the Earth can't and isn't drying up in North America as we speak.

    I hope that you are all this cavalier when some of your children and family catch it.
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    question...

    Have you personaly sent any aid/money to help them?

    Actually I heard that them militant dudes ain't allowing aid unless we give them weapons/ammunition. So regardless of what money I could give, it wouldn't help because we ain't giving them weapons/ammunition.

    So where is ? at? Why can't he help or something?
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    The beginning of sorrows. Mystery Babylon will suffer death, mourning, famine, loss of children, and widowhood; all in 1 hour. So much torment and sorrow give her for she saith in her heart she sitteth a queen and shall see no sorrow!
  • @My_nameaintearl
    @My_nameaintearl Banned Users Posts: 2,609 ✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    so mystery babylon is somalia

    didnt see that coming
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    so mystery babylon is somalia

    didnt see that coming


    "if I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?" John 3:12
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    LMAO!

    First you said Mystery Babylon was AMERICA, the US STATES, now you think it's Somalia? Really? So you think this is okay then, for them to be dying everyday and calling out to ? yet nothing happens. SMMFH
  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    LoL @ this ? . famine is not proof that the Most High don't exist. It means people are ? up. And that ? is on them. Only the Greco-Roman mystery relgion focus on fatalism; most of the times the bottom line of religions is something I can agree with spiritually- and that is SELF-RESPONSIBILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHERS.

    nOW IF YOU OUTRAGED AT THE FAMINE..
    BUT YOU AINT DID ? ABOUT IT...THEN..
    ? DON'T EXIST...................IN YOU
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    Outraged about the famine? It's normal, how can I be upset about something that's normal? I look and say, damn, that's ? up LOOKING and ? but it is what it is. But if there is a ? and we are indeed this dudes creation, then wtf? If something I created was all ? up, I'd intervene and fix whatever I needed to no matter how many times I'm doing it. I don't let my animals starve, as I an their owner, I care for them everyday. The ? a ? can't do for millions of people? This dude supposedly speaks things into existence, why not just say hey yo, food in Somalia then boom, millions live to drink and eat and celebrate their ? because that's where their hearts, faith and beliefs are at.
  • alissowack
    alissowack Members Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    VIBE86 wrote: »
    Outraged about the famine? It's normal, how can I be upset about something that's normal? I look and say, damn, that's ? up LOOKING and ? but it is what it is. But if there is a ? and we are indeed this dudes creation, then wtf? If something I created was all ? up, I'd intervene and fix whatever I needed to no matter how many times I'm doing it. I don't let my animals starve, as I an their owner, I care for them everyday. The ? a ? can't do for millions of people? This dude supposedly speaks things into existence, why not just say hey yo, food in Somalia then boom, millions live to drink and eat and celebrate their ? because that's where their hearts, faith and beliefs are at.

    But what makes you think that the issue is as easy as throwing food someone's way? There are ailments of this world that would be nice to do without, but it will not change the condition that man is in with ? .
  • DRO
    DRO Members Posts: 9,943 ✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    judahxulu wrote: »
    lol @ this ? . Famine is not proof that the most high don't exist. It means people are ? up. And that ? is on them. Only the greco-roman mystery relgion focus on fatalism; most of the times the bottom line of religions is something i can agree with spiritually- and that is self-responsibility and responsibility for others.

    now if you outraged at the famine..
    But you aint did ? about it...then..
    ? don't exist...................in you

    boooooommmm!
  • VIBE
    VIBE Members Posts: 54,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2011
    Options
    boooooommmm!

    That was ether? LOL