Fact: Kanye is a better producer than Dr. Dre
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The only thing Dre did was add a melody to his beats. Dre started it, Puff perfected it
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soul rattler wrote: »Do you realize that ALL of Hip Hop was predicated on the DJ sampling old records?
Hopefully that isn't a serious question
Obviously producers sample, just depends on how they use those samples. Dre for instance early in his career sampled funk records and I'd say he did a great job capturing that funk sound and put a twist to it. Kanye on the other hand doesn't seem to change much from the original sample.
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thesynthesis wrote: »Dre as a producer is leagues ahead of kanye, his product is always Top quality, even his wack songs
Post anything thing within the LAST 2 YEARS Dre has produced that's mind blowing
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supaman4321 wrote: »What exactly did Royce's manager say I've never actually been able to find out from anybody
His manger said he's seen Em sit Dre down in the studio and teach him about producing and music like Dre was a pupil. That ? Dre off. Dre went off on Royce and his manager, then it became Royce/manager vs Dre/Em/D12. -
Zig Zag Zigga wrote: »Kanye on the other hand doesn't seem to change much from the original sample.
Bruh
Its always been stated here that KanYe's five albums all have different diverse sounds -
also i think people are gettin mixed up with producer and beatmaker
to me producer is the ? who has a vision from start to end, knows the sound he is lookin for, where he wants the hook, the bridge, drop outs, vocals, singing etc...
You can take a great song like California Luv and sit back and hear Dre's vision..... -
Post anything thing within the LAST 2 YEARS Dre has produced that's mind blowing
I'm eager to hear 'em
I dont think Dre has produced anything mind blowing, but he mos def hasnt produced anything wack in the last 2 years
I was listening to Kush, which isnt a bad song, just that we expected 100 times better from Dre given we have waited so long....Kush was produced nicely, the beats on point, but for Dre standards its not mind blowing...he's put himself on such a pedestal that i dont think any man can cope with such demands -
thesynthesis wrote: »I dont think Dre has produced anything mind blowing, but he mos def hasnt produced anything wack in the last 2 years
I was listening to Kush, which isnt a bad song, just that we expected 100 times better from Dre given we have waited so long....Kush was produced nicely, the beats on point, but for Dre standards its not mind blowing...he's put himself on such a pedestal that i dont think any man can cope with such demands
Bruh
Personally, I think time has elapsed Dre
and Kush was meh -
Lol dudes in here wildin..Kanye's production is more soulful, but don't know if its better..
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thesynthesis wrote: »I dont think Dre has produced anything mind blowing, but he mos def hasnt produced anything wack in the last 2 years
I was listening to Kush, which isnt a bad song, just that we expected 100 times better from Dre given we have waited so long....Kush was produced nicely, the beats on point, but for Dre standards its not mind blowing...he's put himself on such a pedestal that i dont think any man can cope with such demands
dre didn't produce kush -
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Bruh
Personally, I think time has elapsed Dre
and Kush was meh
Kush is ight, i got it on the ipod when i'm liftin, gets me hype, i even got the instrumental without the vocals lol
I think Dre has caved into the pressure of ? puttin him on a pedestal
but his body of work to me is far ahead of any other producer if we are talkin hit records -
Already Home_17 wrote: »dre didn't produce kush
i didnt know that?
produce as in make the beat?
or produce as in not produce the song, i.e direct the song in the studio? overlook the recording process -
thesynthesis wrote: »I think Dre has caved into the pressure of ? puttin him on a pedestal
Which makes KanYe ahead of him now
Because Yeezy delivers when the pressure is even higher eg Taylor Swift award jacking/MBDTF -
I prefer a lot of producers beats over dre's nowadays
kanye
just blaze
the inkredibles
boi-1da
justice league
dj khalil
no i.d.
danja
dj toomp
alchemist
and etc.
but that doesn't necessarily make them better -
DJ Quik >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Dre, Kanye, Premo, all of them
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Which makes KanYe ahead of him now
Because Yeezy delivers when the pressure is even higher eg Taylor Swift award jacking/MBDTF
i'mma wait for detox LOL, before i put kanye ahead of him -
thesynthesis wrote: »i didnt know that?
produce as in make the beat?
or produce as in not produce the song, i.e direct the song in the studio? overlook the recording process
i don't know for sure
dj Khalil is given credit for production,dre is given credit for mixing -
Already Home_17 wrote: »I prefer a lot of producers beats over dre's nowadays
kanye
just blaze
the inkredibles
boi-1da
justice league
dj khalil
no i.d.
danja
dj toomp
alchemist
and etc.
but that doesn't necessarily make them better
i think people are gettin beatmakers and producers mixed up
Justice League make fire ass beats, no doubt, but they have put there name on some wack songs from underground artists
Producer is someone who doesnt necessary make the beat, but someone who directs the song in the studio and makes a hit record
having a hot beat doesnt mean the song is goin to be hot... -
thesynthesis wrote: »i'mma wait for detox LOL, before i put kanye ahead of him
Wait on bruh... wait on -
Even songs from Kanye's worst album had great production
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thesynthesis wrote: »i think people are gettin beatmakers and producers mixed up
Justice League make fire ass beats, no doubt, but they have put there name on some wack songs from underground artists
Producer is someone who doesnt necessary make the beat, but someone who directs the song in the studio and makes a hit record
having a hot beat doesnt mean the song is goin to be hot...
yeah the mixing and the extra vocals also do that ,people don't really know what a producer is -
Like someone here earlier said, 'Ye has even surpassed Dre in the double producer stakes as in directing other producers to create the sound he wants
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Already Home_17 wrote: »i don't know for sure
dj Khalil is given credit for production,dre is given credit for mixing
interesting
the mix was fire on the song, ? cant event front, that ? banged sonically,
dj khalil is a nice producer got some heaters under his belt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bPlIoc7TW4