Fact: Kanye is a better producer than Dr. Dre

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  • illogics
    illogics Members Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭
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    KingdomKame wrote: »
    Anyone who says Dre has put out better work than Ye in the past 6 years is probably an old head....

    Or someone who knows that Dre hasn't really been on the scene in the past 6 years as opposed to Kanye who's prolly the only legend/icon bred out of the 2000's so far. Hollow argument.
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  • HipHopFiend91
    HipHopFiend91 Members Posts: 2,394
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    ic loves to ? on Dre

    Dre>>>Yeezy

    i like kanye but dre is better imo
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  • KingJamal
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    edited June 2011
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    How many of those beats are GREAT seriously?
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  • Kame
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    georgia boi wrote: »
    Since June 2006, Dre has produced

    01. "Get You Some" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius & Q-Tip) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    03. "How We Do It Over Here" (feat. Missy Elliot)
    05. "Been Through The Storm" (feat. Stevie Wonder) (Additional production with Sha Money XL & Black Jeruz)
    Sample Credit: "Everlasting Love" by Felix Cavaliere
    06. "In the Ghetto" (feat. Rick James) (Additional production with DJ Green Lantern)
    07. "Cocaina" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    09. "Goldmine" (feat. Raekwon) (Additional production with Erick Sermon)
    11. "Don't Get Carried Away" (feat. Nas)
    15. "Legend of the Fall Off's"
    Sample Credit: "Do You Ever" by Return to Forever
    [edit] Jay-Z - Kingdom Come05. "Lost One" (feat. Chrisette Michele) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    07. "30 Something"
    11. "Trouble" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    13. "Minority Report" (feat. Ne-Yo)
    Sample Credit: "Non ti scordar di me" by Luciano Pavarotti
    [edit] Snoop Dogg - Tha Blue Carpet Treatment09. "Boss' Life" (feat. Akon) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    Sample Credit: "If Tomorrow Never Comes" by The Controllers
    Sample Credit: "Everybody Rise" by Busta Rhymes
    12. "Round Here"
    Sample Credit: "Thank You" by Dido
    20. "Imagine" (feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    [edit] Shady Records - Eminem Presents: The Re-Up18. "Get Low" (Stat Quo)
    [edit] Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead15. "Hustlers" (feat. The Game & Marsha Ambrosius)
    [edit] 2007[edit] Young Buck - Buck the World08. "Hold On" (feat. 50 Cent) (Produced with Che Vicious)
    11. "U Ain't Goin' Nowhere" (feat. LaToiya Williams) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    [edit] 50 Cent - Curtis06. "Come and Go"
    14. "Fire" (feat. Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger)
    [edit] 2008[edit] Bishop Lamont - The Confessional19. "The Greatest Trick" (Produced with Denaun Porter)
    [edit] Trick-Trick - The Villain09. "Hold On"
    [edit] 2009[edit] Slim Thug - Boss of All Bosses02. "? I'm Back" (feat. Devin the Dude) (Produced with Mr. Lee)
    [edit] Eminem - Relapse01. "Dr. West" (Skit)
    02. "3 a.m."
    03. "My Mom"
    04. "Insane"
    Sample Credit: "? Box" by The Skinny Boys
    05. "Bagpipes from Baghdad" (Produced with T. Lawrence)
    06. "Hello" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    07. "Tonya" (Skit)
    08. "Same Song & Dance" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
    09. "We Made You" (Produced with Eminem & Doc Ish)
    Sample Credit: "Hot Summer Nights" by Walter Egan
    10. "Medicine Ball" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    11. "Paul" (Skit)
    12. "Stay Wide Awake"
    13. "Old Time's Sake" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    14. "Must Be The Gunja" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    15. "Mr. Mathers" (Skit)
    16. "Déjà Vu"
    18. "? a Bottle" (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
    Sample Credit: "Mais dans ma lumière" by Mike Brant
    19. "Steve Berman" (Skit)
    20. "Underground"
    [edit] Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II18. "Catalina" (feat. Lyfe Jennings) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    Sample Credit: "Rainy Dayz" by Raekwon
    Sample Credit: "Dialogue and score from the film The Killer"
    20. "About Me" (feat. Busta Rhymes) (Produced with Mark Batson)

    50 Cent - Before I Self Destruct03. "Death to My Enemies" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    05. "? " (feat. Eminem) (Produced with Eminem)
    Sample Credit: "The Age of Love" by Age of Love
    15. "Ok, You're Right" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    [edit] Eminem - Relapse: Refill02. "Hell Breaks Loose" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    03. "Buffalo Bill" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    05. "Taking My Ball"
    06. "Music Box" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
    07. "Drop the Bomb on 'Em"
    [edit] 2010[edit] Eminem - Recovery13. "So Bad"
    18. "Ridaz" (iTunes deluxe edition bonus tracks)
    Bishop Lamont - The Shawshank Redemption/Angola 307. "Rain" (feat. Liz Rodrigues)
    21. "Change Is Gonna Come" (feat. Mike Anthony)

    Nothing there was as good as the ? Ye has put out and you know it... cause I know you know your ?
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  • Kame
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    illogics wrote: »
    Or someone who knows that Dre hasn't really been on the scene in the past 6 years as opposed to Kanye who's prolly the only legend/icon bred out of the 2000's so far. Hollow argument.

    Im not saying Ye >> Dre overall

    Im saying Ye>>> Dre 04 to now... by miles actually

    That's the argument this has turned into...
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  • KingJamal
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    Find me a Dre beat from the last 6 years thats better than Robocop then agree with ya'll.
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  • illogics
    illogics Members Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭
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    KingdomKame wrote: »
    Im not saying Ye >> Dre overall

    Im saying Ye>>> Dre 04 to now... by miles actually

    That's the argument this has turned into...

    Oh.....No doubt
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  • YamoleySensei
    YamoleySensei Members Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    georgia boi wrote: »
    Since June 2006, Dre has produced

    01. "Get You Some" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius & Q-Tip) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    03. "How We Do It Over Here" (feat. Missy Elliot)
    05. "Been Through The Storm" (feat. Stevie Wonder) (Additional production with Sha Money XL & Black Jeruz)
    Sample Credit: "Everlasting Love" by Felix Cavaliere
    06. "In the Ghetto" (feat. Rick James) (Additional production with DJ Green Lantern)
    07. "Cocaina" (feat. Marsha Ambrosius) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    09. "Goldmine" (feat. Raekwon) (Additional production with Erick Sermon)
    11. "Don't Get Carried Away" (feat. Nas)
    15. "Legend of the Fall Off's"
    Sample Credit: "Do You Ever" by Return to Forever
    [edit] Jay-Z - Kingdom Come05. "Lost One" (feat. Chrisette Michele) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    07. "30 Something"
    11. "Trouble" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    13. "Minority Report" (feat. Ne-Yo)
    Sample Credit: "Non ti scordar di me" by Luciano Pavarotti
    [edit] Snoop Dogg - Tha Blue Carpet Treatment09. "Boss' Life" (feat. Akon) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    Sample Credit: "If Tomorrow Never Comes" by The Controllers
    Sample Credit: "Everybody Rise" by Busta Rhymes
    12. "Round Here"
    Sample Credit: "Thank You" by Dido
    20. "Imagine" (feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    [edit] Shady Records - Eminem Presents: The Re-Up18. "Get Low" (Stat Quo)
    [edit] Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead15. "Hustlers" (feat. The Game & Marsha Ambrosius)
    [edit] 2007[edit] Young Buck - Buck the World08. "Hold On" (feat. 50 Cent) (Produced with Che Vicious)
    11. "U Ain't Goin' Nowhere" (feat. LaToiya Williams) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    [edit] 50 Cent - Curtis06. "Come and Go"
    14. "Fire" (feat. Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger)
    [edit] 2008[edit] Bishop Lamont - The Confessional19. "The Greatest Trick" (Produced with Denaun Porter)
    [edit] Trick-Trick - The Villain09. "Hold On"
    [edit] 2009[edit] Slim Thug - Boss of All Bosses02. "? I'm Back" (feat. Devin the Dude) (Produced with Mr. Lee)
    [edit] Eminem - Relapse01. "Dr. West" (Skit)
    02. "3 a.m."
    03. "My Mom"
    04. "Insane"
    Sample Credit: "? Box" by The Skinny Boys
    05. "Bagpipes from Baghdad" (Produced with T. Lawrence)
    06. "Hello" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    07. "Tonya" (Skit)
    08. "Same Song & Dance" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
    09. "We Made You" (Produced with Eminem & Doc Ish)
    Sample Credit: "Hot Summer Nights" by Walter Egan
    10. "Medicine Ball" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    11. "Paul" (Skit)
    12. "Stay Wide Awake"
    13. "Old Time's Sake" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    14. "Must Be The Gunja" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    15. "Mr. Mathers" (Skit)
    16. "Déjà Vu"
    18. "? a Bottle" (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
    Sample Credit: "Mais dans ma lumière" by Mike Brant
    19. "Steve Berman" (Skit)
    20. "Underground"
    [edit] Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II18. "Catalina" (feat. Lyfe Jennings) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    Sample Credit: "Rainy Dayz" by Raekwon
    Sample Credit: "Dialogue and score from the film The Killer"
    20. "About Me" (feat. Busta Rhymes) (Produced with Mark Batson)

    50 Cent - Before I Self Destruct03. "Death to My Enemies" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    05. "? " (feat. Eminem) (Produced with Eminem)
    Sample Credit: "The Age of Love" by Age of Love
    15. "Ok, You're Right" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    [edit] Eminem - Relapse: Refill02. "Hell Breaks Loose" (feat. Dr. Dre) (Produced with Mark Batson)
    03. "Buffalo Bill" (Produced with Mark Batson)
    05. "Taking My Ball"
    06. "Music Box" (Produced with Dawaun Parker)
    07. "Drop the Bomb on 'Em"
    [edit] 2010[edit] Eminem - Recovery13. "So Bad"
    18. "Ridaz" (iTunes deluxe edition bonus tracks)
    Bishop Lamont - The Shawshank Redemption/Angola 307. "Rain" (feat. Liz Rodrigues)
    21. "Change Is Gonna Come" (feat. Mike Anthony)
    are you serious? Is that all ? ass Dre produced since '06? I refuse to believe that but if so, talk about a lazy motherfuckaa....and ain't you the same dude that called Dre "the James Cameron of Hip Hop".....LMAO!!!! I know Cameron has more than two Magnum Opuses under his belt...Dre is just a lazy, steroid taking chump that lusts for trannies....he's too busy doing that than trying to recreate a solid album....
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  • KingJamal
    KingJamal Members Posts: 20,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
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    Would someone confirm for me if Kanye produced Down and out or not???
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  • Kame
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    edited June 2011
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    I do prefer Ye's ? to Dre's period..... but thats a generational thing and I can't expect yall to understand that lol... Means a lot more to me when I was there to see it
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  • Kame
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    Would someone confirm for me if Kanye produced Down and out or not???

    No one really knows actually.... supposedly brian miller

    Ye never took the credit though.. dude was just on the hook so people assumed it was his production
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  • KingJamal
    KingJamal Members Posts: 20,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    KingdomKame wrote: »
    No one really knows actually.... supposedly brian miller

    Ye never took the credit though.. dude was just on the hook so people assumed it was his production

    oh ok thanks
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  • georgia boi
    georgia boi Members Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    Find me a Dre beat from the last 6 years thats better than Robocop then agree with ya'll.

    "Robocop"? Cool beat, but there's quite a few Dre beats I'd rather hear than that one. "Imagine", "Boss's Life", "3 A.M." are some of the tracks he's released within the past 5 years that I would call great. Is Dre the best producer out today? No, there's actually several other producers I prefer over Dre right now. As a matter of fact, Dre's never been hands down my favorite producer. He's more so a producer I respect for the classics he's put out, shaping the sound of Hip Hop over the course of his career, and basically setting the standard for a Hip Hop producer.
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  • Kame
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    edited June 2011
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    Imagine and Boss' Life both cool beats actually...redundant but cool
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  • Stew
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    Yamoley wrote: »
    uh oh, this cornball is catching feelings again....
    you should do what you normally do when you get your panties all knotted up and close this thread....I'm sure that'll make you feel better

    Really ? ? That's all u got? U can do a better job at debating a topic then that. Your confusing me with a mod that doesn't exist, good try tho.
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  • choppa_style
    choppa_style Members Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭✭
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    Would someone confirm for me if Kanye produced Down and out or not???

    It was Brian Miller. People gave Kanye credit and he never denied it for a while but then finally admitted it on some mixtape.
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  • choppa_style
    choppa_style Members Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭✭
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    Btw you'all are really showing your ignorance with threads like this.

    I can tell most of you'all don't even know what a producer is.

    PS: Kanye hasn't produced anything by himself since College Dropout.
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  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Swizz Beats and Kanye are better producers than Dre in my opinion. And Kanye definitely is a better rapper
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  • Knives Amilli
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    choppa_style wrote: »
    Btw you'all are really showing your ignorance with threads like this.

    I can tell most of you'all don't even know what a producer is.

    PS: Kanye hasn't produced anything by himself since College Dropout.

    He's still a producer. Its why I take nothing from Diddy. Timbo and Dre are in the same boat and didn't touch the boards on some of the best beats they've been credited for.
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  • mryounggun
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    True story. I don't dislike dre's beats. Be makes some hot ? sometime. But I've been a HUGE fan and don't think he's even in the top 5 of hip hop producers of all time.
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  • Ishi
    Ishi Members Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Everyone in my favorite producers list >>>>> Dre
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  • c.b.b.
    c.b.b. Members Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭✭
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    KingJamal wrote: »
    DJ Toomp>>>>>>Dre

    Hell yeah

    Mike Dean (of Rap A Lot) >>> Dre

    T Mixx >>>> Dre

    Premo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dre

    J Dilla >>>>>>>>> Dre

    Alchemist >>>>>>>> Dre
    Havoc >>>>>>> Dre
    DJ Paul & Juicy J >>>>>>>>>> Dre
    Organized Noise >>>>>>>>> Dre
    Timbaland >>>>>>>>>>> Dre

    Rza >>> Dre
    DJ Quik >>>>>>>>> Dre

    Man I was so disappointed when I found out how ? Dre was and that he took credit for so many people's work
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  • c.b.b.
    c.b.b. Members Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭✭
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    The legendary Traxsta >>>>>>> Dre

    "? azz Dre" - 2 Pac
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  • tompetrez3
    tompetrez3 Members Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dre co production credits are too shaky for me to consider him anykind of GOAT

    DJ Yella with WCWC
    Yella/Alladin/Heller with SOC
    Yella and Big Hutch on N4L/100 miles
    Daz/Warren G/Doc/Solar Records with Chronic
    Storch/Melman/Hitman with 2001
    Jeff Bass and Mike Elizondo with the Eminem projects
    Sha Money/Hi Tek/Havoc with G Unit Projects
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  • rip.dilla
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    tompetrez3 wrote: »
    Dre co production credits are too shaky for me to consider him anykind of GOAT

    DJ Yella with WCWC
    Yella/Alladin/Heller with SOC
    Yella and Big Hutch on N4L/100 miles
    Daz/Warren G/Doc/Solar Records with Chronic
    Storch/Melman/Hitman with 2001
    Jeff Bass and Mike Elizondo with the Eminem projects
    Sha Money/Hi Tek/Havoc with G Unit Projects

    Way too much LOL
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