Isn't it hilarious how much Italians/Sicilian Americans hate Blacks
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-Vincenzo- wrote: »If this is the 'blackness' DNA haplogroup please explain these numbers:
Bahia, Brazil 19% (19/100)
Istanbul, Turkey 1.2% (1/81)
Somalis 1.5% (3/201)
Ethiopians 3.4% (3/88)
A lot of numbers don't match up with your conclusions my friend. This haplogroup is ONE of various haplogroups that are spread among black africans. I wouln't say Italians are significant black genetically but if other Mediterranean people like Turks have some percentage of this haplogroup in them it is really unlikely that Italians (especially southern Italians) have 0% of it as you stated.
easy .
istambul = slave trade unde the ottoman empire
bahia , brazil = brazil imported more slaves than any other nations in the americas ( under the portuguese ) , bahia is pretty much the capital of afro-brazilian culture
somalis = 1.5 % , somalis have a different type of genes , it's called e1b1b , not found in " you " ( by that i mean people of west african origin ) if you always wondered why somalis look different than other blacks , here is your answer . that 1.5 % is not even significant
ethiopians = same as somalis, they're a different type of " black" -
maybe not 0 % but something in that region
if tunisians only have 1.4 % , what's left to say ?
and e1b1a is indeed the " negroid marker " , it's a fact, that's not me talking , ask S. O. Y. Keita ( black scientist ) -
have you been to these places u are speaking on? specifically North Africa.
Your throwing up a chart that says "berber/ not black" and using people with the whitest characteristics to serve as physical representatives of the region. THat alone has me doubting it....if you been there youd KNOW thats an incomplete. therefore FALSE, image of what "could pass for a moroccan" -
I Self Lord & Master wrote: »have you been to these places u are speaking on? specifically North Africa.
Your throwing up a chart that says "berber/ not black" and using people with the whitest characteristics to serve as physical representatives of the region. THat alone has me doubting it....if you been there youd KNOW thats an incomplete. therefore FALSE, image of what "could pass for a moroccan"
i live in a place that was invaded by north african immigrants ( france ) . 99 % of them are not black
the black marker " e1b1a " averages less than 10 % in all north african countries
the closest you get to europe the less e1b1a you'll find , like i said , tunisians have 1.4 % black in them
tunisia = place from where the conquest of sicily started
you see how silly is the claim of " black sicilians " ?
ps : i never said north africans are " white " , just not negroid -
i live in a place that was invaded by north african immigrants ( france ) . 99 % of them are not black
the black marker " e1b1a " averages less than 10 % in all north african countries
it didnt take all that. You could have just said "no"
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italians are black with white skin
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map of the black " e1b1a "
hardly found outside western africa ( minus people of african descent in the americas ) , let alone sicily
middle eastern dna " haplogroup J " , the true reason italians are some dark ? -
I Self Lord & Master wrote: »it didnt take all that. You could have just said "no"
thank you
number of north africans in france = 6 million
i have a good idea how they look , trust me -
i live in a place that was invaded by north african immigrants ( france ) . 99 % of them are not black
the black marker " e1b1a " averages less than 10 % in all north african countries
the closest you get to europe the less e1b1a you'll find , like i said , tunisians have 1.4 % black in them
tunisia = place from where the conquest of sicily started
you see how silly is the claim of " black sicilians " ?
ps : i never said north africans are " white " , just not negroid
Wtf is a negroid? -
truth spitter wrote: »Wtf is a negroid?
" scientific " term for people of west african origin
mongoild = asian
caucasoid = white -
easy .
istambul = slave trade unde the ottoman empire
bahia , brazil = brazil imported more slaves than any other nations in the americas ( under the portuguese ) , bahia is pretty much the capital of afro-brazilian culture
somalis = 1.5 % , somalis have a different type of genes , it's called e1b1b , not found in " you " ( by that i mean people of west african origin ) if you always wondered why somalis look different than other blacks , here is your answer . that 1.5 % is not even significant
ethiopians = same as somalis, they're a different type of " black"maybe not 0 % but something in that region
if tunisians only have 1.4 % , what's left to say ?
and e1b1a is indeed the " negroid marker " , it's a fact, that's not me talking , ask S. O. Y. Keita ( black scientist )
Haplogroup E1a is one of the haplogroups Italians and Blacks share. I think the percentage of black DNA Italians have is even higher than the 1.4 % of Tunisians. But I will deal with the whole topic later since i am busy right now .... -
-Vincenzo- wrote: »Haplogroup E1a is one of the haplogroups Italians and Blacks share. I think the percentage of black DNA Italians have is even higher than the 1.4 % of Tunisians. But I will deal with the whole topic later since i am busy right now ....
E1a is not even found in sicily , it's found in some parts of southern ,and central italy ( and also the country of albania and greece ) frequency is 1.56 %
it's also not found in most west african countries , and is not found above 50 % in any place in the world and finaly , it's also found in moroccan berbers . ancient migration or slave trade ....why ? sicilians don't have it , it means it can't be from the medieval muslims that conquered italy since sicily was the longest arabic colony.
i don't get it , why don't you accept middle eastern genes as the reason for the italian dark features? look at this frequencies it's scary , some italians are more arab than most moroccans and algerians
italia , central marche = 40.1 % J
italia , west calabria = 38.1 % J
the amount of black admixture is not important, it can't match these numbers
wathever north / sub-saharan african marker you'll find in italy ,it won't be higher than 5 % , and it won't be enough to change the outward appearance of the italian people like the haplogroup J did -
b@squ1@t redux wrote: »bronx tale is nothin but a half-true story of robert deniro's childhood...just cuz he ? w/ black chicks heavy dont mean all I-talians do
still a classic movie regardless
Not all do I know, but I know a lot have hit on me. It's not all just from a Bronx Tale. -
Dr. Funky was really up in this threads claiming to have African blood in his ? veins.
Hate to burst your bubble, but your female ancestors were ? and inseminated by black men. Get over it.
they obviously ? em so hard that they forgot to leave their genes in the modern italian population . and somehow , all we can find in italians is A LOT of middle eastern DNA . weird huh ?
it's funny how some blacks will fight tooth and nail to defend the " italians are part black theory " , you want them to be black bro ? too fascinated with italian mobsters and italian sports cars that rappers drive ? -
? i-talians and their weak ass spagetti. and ? the negros who idolize em for thier mob culture. that aint ?
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E1a is not even found in sicily , it's found in some parts of southern ,and central italy ( and also the country of albania and greece ) frequency is 1.56 %
it's also not found in most west african countries , and is not found above 50 % in any place in the world and finaly , it's also found in moroccan berbers . ancient migration or slave trade ....why ? sicilians don't have it , it means it can't be from the medieval muslims that conquered italy since sicily was the longest arabic colony.
i don't get it , why don't you accept middle eastern genes as the reason for the italian dark features? look at this frequencies it's scary , some italians are more arab than most moroccans and algerians
italia , central marche = 40.1 % J
italia , west calabria = 38.1 % J
the amount of black admixture is not important, it can't match these numbers
wathever north / sub-saharan african marker you'll find in italy ,it won't be higher than 5 % , and it won't be enough to change the outward appearance of the italian people like the haplogroup J did
i don't argue your point, i found the premise of thread ridiculous myself. i only wanted to point out that italians have some black in them but like i said i don't think it is significant.
moreover i do not even think the cultures of black africans and the italian culture have that much in common. nevertheless black americans and italian americans have a lot in common which shouldn't be that surprising.
like i said i like their movies and history. since i am from germany we don't have to talk about cars, we got that ? on lock. and italians prolly ? a lot more with black culture than vice versa. -
number of north africans in france = 6 million
i have a good idea how they look , trust me
i couldnt care less how many live in france
your claiming to know the standard on the appearance of the people of a nation u never been to. You havent even been to the region. That doesnt sound silly?
again, anyone whos been there can see right through that nonesense -
good thread ? is confusing i bet most of them would dispute the facts and pretend that ? isn't true.
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I Self Lord & Master wrote: »i couldnt care less how many live in france
your claiming to know the standard on the appearance of the people of a nation u never been to. You havent even been to the region. That doesnt sound silly?
again, anyone whos been there can see right through that nonesense
anyone with half a brain knows that people in the maghreb are not black , don't be a ? please -
good thread ? is confusing i bet most of them would dispute the facts and pretend that ? isn't true.
i didn't pretend , i posted irrefutable scientifc proof that italians have a high % of middle eastern DNA ( haplogroup J ) and pretty much no african DNA in them
how can italians have black in them , when their dna tests dosen't show it ?
ps :what facts ? nobody here posted any facts, just some nonsense straight outta true romance -
anyone with half a brain knows that people in the maghreb are not black , don't be a ? please
you got backed into a corner and now all you can do is advance ? that wasnt even said.
and even though i didnt say that, THATS STILL FALSE. the maghreb is a very colorful region. All this libya news and u still didnt know that
It wont cost u much to visit. Go to eurorailways.com , cop u a ticket to malaga or tarifa and hop on a ferry to tangier. Go get urself some of that education that u say others need. -
sombody watched the movie true romance recently....
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Hannibal was black
Just FYI lol -
Paypay is right on this occasion, Italians have very little African admixture, and not anything more significant than their European brothers in other parts of Europe.
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anyone with half a brain knows that people in the maghreb are not black , don't be a ? please
Complete ? .
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