Nas is crazy if he think he could have beaten this man...
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IMO i think Jay was better than Eminem on Renegades
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Post proof or evidence tupac had sex wit faith
Rumors or slander dont count
See carmen (nas baby moms) admitted to have sex wit jay z and allen iverson in her book now can u show similar evidence?
Until u can then this rumor has no merit
what kind of proof does the great tommy deem acceptable? -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Post proof or evidence tupac had sex wit faith
Rumors or slander dont count
See carmen (nas baby moms) admitted to have sex wit jay z and allen iverson in her book now can u show similar evidence?
Until u can then this rumor has no merit
? nobody was in the room filming him ? Faith but why is she goin all the way out West to do songs wit her husband's enemy and sitting on his lap? Come up with a logical explanation for that please -
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straightupsho wrote: »IMO i think Jay was better than Eminem on Renegades
cool,you're in the 2% group. -
bankrupt baller wrote: »im well aware of that
which means jay knew about em's verses already and still couldnt match them
but its "on your own ? " because it was on jays album
Jay verses were tough, you really saying his verses were that subpar compared to Em's? -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »I got mo dough in my pocket than your whole country GNP is worth
You're such a ?
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Jay verses were tough, you really saying his verses were that subpar compared to Em's?
yes i am.....
but lets say he didnt "murder" him....do you think jay had the better verses? -
If Faith wasn't a lying traitor of a ? then Tommy would have the same proof Nas baby mom provided.....from a autobiography
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[Jay-Z]
? -
say that I'm foolish I only talk about jewels (bling bling)
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothin, I made somethin doin
what I do through and through and
I give you the news - with a twist it's just his ghetto point-of-view
The renegade; you been afraid
I ? pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies ? crotched over
Mommy's knocked up cause she wasn't watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he's not around - now how that sound to ya, jot it down
I bring it through the ghetto without ridin 'round
hidin down duckin strays from frustrated youths stuck in they ways
Just read a magazine that ? up my day
How you rate music that thugs with nothin relate to it?
I help them see they way through it - not you
Can't step in my pants, can't walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth; you lose your tie and your shirt
[Eminem]
Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with 'em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who's these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
usin his music to steer it sharin his views in his marriage
But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
as a ? drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in the mirror
and see yourself as a kid again, and you get embarrased
And I got nothin to do but make you look stupid as parents
You ? do-gooders - too bad you couldn't do good at marriage!
(Ha ha!) And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don't
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the stereo
Cause here we go - he's {*Jigga joint Jigga-chk-Jigga*}
And I'm the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it's just the
[Chorus: Eminem + Jay-Z]
[Em] RENEGADE! Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a RENEGADE! Never been afraid to talk
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING), RENEGADE!
[Jay] Never been afraid to say
what's on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I'm a {RENEGADE} Never been afraid to holler
about anything {anything?} Anything {ANYTHING!}
[Jay-Z]
I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
Gotta vent, lot of innocent of lives lost on the project bench
Whatchu hollerin? Gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feelin braver
Doo-rag wrappin my waves up, pockets full of hope
Do not step to me - I'm awkward, I box leftier often
My pops left me an orphan, my momma wasn't home
Could not stress to me I wasn't grown; 'specially on nights
I brought somethin home to quiet the stomach rumblings
My demeanor - thirty years my senior
My childhood didn't mean much, only raisin green up
Raisin my fingers to critics; raisin my head to the sky
Big I did it - multi before I die (? )
No lie, just know I chose my own fate
I drove by the fork in the road and went straight
[Eminem]
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
as a monger of hate and Satan a scatter-brained atheist
But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is
Or is he the latter - a gateway to escape?
Media scapegoat, who they can be mad at today
See it's easy as cake, simple as whistlin Dixie
while I'm wavin the pistol at sixty Christians against me
Go to war with the Mormons, take a bath with the Catholics
in holy water - no wonder they try to hold me under longer
I'm a ? spiteful, DELIGHTFUL eyeful
The new Ice Cube - ? HATE to like you
What did I do? (huh?) I'm just a kid from the gutter
makin this butter off these bloodsuckers, cause I'm a muh'? -
Biggie is one of the only rappers that Nas ever borrowed rhymes from, and the other is Rakim (and 2Pac if i'm not mistaken).
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those lyrics were not needed and you didnt answer my question
and tommy is hilarious -
how did this turn into a jay vs. nas thread again?
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I made a thread about The Blueprint some nights ago
Eminem sounded more refined on 'Renegade'
hell it was a song of his in fact
SMH at Jigga -
bankrupt baller wrote: »yes i am.....
but lets say he didnt "murder" him....do you think jay had the better verses?
Lol, I just read the words in your avi, smh. -
bankrupt baller wrote: »those lyrics were not needed and you didnt answer my question
and tommy is hilarious
jay's verses werent better. thats obvious. but dude wasnt murdered
its funny how some people that say ems verse was lightyears ahead of jays, yet cant even recite anything em said in the song -
yall some lame ass ?
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Already Home_17 wrote: »jay's verses werent better. thats obvious. but dude wasnt murdered
its funny how some people that say ems verse was lightyears ahead of jays, yet cant even recite anything em said in the song
I don't know tho ...
Looks like the Sound Engineer on that track was culpable -
Why cant folks just say renegade was a dope song and keep it moving... i mean iknow it was brought up because Nas said but still
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AEOM worst double disc???? u dont believe that
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Already Home_17 wrote: »how did this turn into a jay vs. nas thread again?
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Shiiiit,the battle was the reason Nas even had a career after "Owe me back" or whatever that ? ,i remember the most loyal Nas fans saying he fell off being all sad and ? ..lol..
Why do ? keep saying this bullchit??? I swear I aint hear all this talk about Nas falling off at all. As a matter of fact didn't nastradamus go Platinum??? Didnt he produced and put his qb ? on in Qb finest?? Ya ? keep saying he fell off because he literally fell off by falling back due to his mom's situation and unfortunately I can relate to that. All takeover did was brought nas back sooner than he wanted to because he was obviously tired of hearing the streets claiming that jay finished him off which backfired on Jay-z birthday in 2001. And last but not least why would someone literally cry over a diss that was made up of lies and ? ???? If that was the case, all Jay had to do on the radio was brush the ? off and say they were bogus claims and keep it moving just like Nas did when he heard Jay-z opinion on Nas when it came to takeover. Ether obviously had more facts on jay than takover did on Nas. And yes Jaz-o has confirmed it and that dehaven dude as well. The stanning keeps growing by the day and quite frankly its getting really scarier. What will it be now 10 years in december??? -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Only line that was factual was "How much of biggies rhymes gonna come out yo fat lips" and that was a rhetorical question
It took nas 3 months to make a whole song thats 4:37 secs long to say ONE factual bar
While jigga clapped that ? wit one verse
I'll let you continue your camel ? sucking, but I just wanted to ask, if "Ether" was such a non-factor, why was this ? Jay on the radio about to cry. Dont front, I remember the day I heard that ? too.
...oh and you still a ? -
AEOM worst double disc???? u dont believe that
You never know
When a person lies enough they themselves even start to believe it -
Tommy why don't you use the same logic to Jay ? Nas slit bucket BM and Apply that type of Loss to ya Boy Pac ? Faith. Bias ass ? .
And that one hot album every 10 years thing he said is not only debatable but for a guy who put only the worst double cd ever in blueprint 2, kingdom come and the ? awful blueprint3 which was every bit as weak as Nastradamous ....he of all rappers has no ? room to talk about no one hot album every 10 years when he got something similar in his ? ass catalog. Karma is a ?
I cosign the bolded. Nas dropped 4 albums before Takeover dropped, and all 4 of them went at least gold, with 3 of them being critically acclaimed. Only fact in Takeover is that line where Jay claims to have shown Nas a Tec-9, that's it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNwvHEme_JE
