Which basketball skill is hardest to acquire?
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blakfyahking wrote: »exactly my point about team defense being more difficult
exactly, that's why it's more difficult to do team defense than individual IMO
cause even in man, a really good player can easily break thru a double team................and if you that nice, at least 3 defenders will have to challenge you whenever you touch the ball
it's hard to coach/teach a team to deal with that
thats more of a scheme issue than a skill issue though…you can have the best zone and regardless ur going to give up buckets to a shooting squad its weak spot of that scheme not the fault of players playing the scheme correctly -
detcatinva wrote: »naw skill is muh needed in the post. dwight and lebron got all the size in the world and no post game
lebron has a good post game nothing great....he rarely uses it cause he usually blows right by the defender off the dribble...you play to your strengths
playmaking/court vision by far takes the cake
and i think people underestimate rebounding...there are player with all the size and athleticism and still struggle to grab boards
ball handling is great to have, but its doesn't necessarily have the impact on a game the other skills posted have...... IMO
good thread though...this joint bout to go on for days -
detcatinva wrote: »yea but that is mostly attributed to no other centers in the league as athletic as him. In Lebron's case u have so many athletic wing players to guard him that can stop him in the post because he has no skill on the post
I haven't seen that honestly…imo and I hate LBJ the only person to really stop LBJ is LBJ…and you're right about Dwight but thats what Im saying dwight needs no skill to dominate because he's bigger and more physically talented than everyone else…put him in the post with someone who is as equally physically gifted as he is and he wouldn't be the beast he is right now -
G Mackin' It wrote: »lebron has a good post game nothing great....he rarely uses it cause he usually blows right by the defender off the dribble...you play to your strengths
playmaking/court vision by far takes the cake
and i think people underestimate rebounding...there are player with all the size and athleticism and still struggle to grab boards
ball handling is great to have, but its doesn't necessarily have the impact on a game the other skills posted have...... IMO
good thread though...this joint bout to go on for days
lebron got a good what ?
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rap doctor wrote: »lebron got a good what ?
stop playing boy
the fukk are you talking about -
ShawnCoonery wrote: »thats more of a scheme issue than a skill issue though…you can have the best zone and regardless ur going to give up buckets to a shooting squad its weak spot of that scheme not the fault of players playing the scheme correctly
not really, cause a great scheme isn't going to compensate for mofos who don't know how to effectively defend together
especially if those players don't know each others' strengths and weaknesses well
and then mofos are forgetting about transition defense, a great scheme and high effort is not enough to stop an offense, even if the offense is just mediocre -
G Mackin' It wrote: »the fukk are you talking about
lebron got a good post game ?
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nothing you're saying points to team defense being harder than individual defense. If a ? cant defend, he just can't defend but its easier for him to play in a zone defensive scheme than having to stop someone his selfblakfyahking wrote: »not really, cause a great scheme isn't going to compensate for mofos who don't know how to effectively defend together
especially if those players don't know each others' strengths and weaknesses well
and then mofos are forgetting about transition defense, a great scheme and high effort is not enough to stop an offense, even if the offense is just mediocre -
blakfyahking wrote: »not really, cause a great scheme isn't going to compensate for mofos who don't know how to effectively defend together
especially if those players don't know each others' strengths and weaknesses well
and then mofos are forgetting about transition defense, a great scheme and high effort is not enough to stop an offense, even if the offense is just mediocre
come on bruh…you acting like everyone doesn't know the counter for a good zone D isn't shooting and passing…and the majority of transition buckets come from lack of hustle not lack of skill i.e. people not getting back on D…now you're talking about a avg offense>>>good defense stop it B you know better -
rap doctor wrote: »nothing you're saying points to team defense being harder than individual defense. If a ? cant defend, he just can't defend but its easier for him to play in a zone defensive scheme than having to stop someone his self
didn't somebody say it's easy to break a good zone (team) defense?
obviously you need more skill to defend as a team than an individual defenderShawnCoonery wrote: »come on bruh…you acting like everyone doesn't know the counter for a good zone D isn't shooting and passing…and the majority of transition buckets come from lack of hustle not lack of skill i.e. people not getting back on D…now you're talking about a avg offense>>>good defense stop it B you know better
no......
avg offense >>>>great scheme and high effort without the skill needed to execute a team defense
at worst the offense would gain a foul off of you
at best, they can still get a good shot off -
Play making not everyone can see the court well.Fellow by a close 2nd defense.Everything else you can work on by yourself at the court.If look at the history of the nba there are not alot of oscar robertson's,Jason Kidd 'smagic johnson's, john stockton's,or steve nash.Plus point gurds these days score more
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windycity2117 wrote: »Play making not everyone can see the court well.Fellow by a close 2nd defense.Everything else you can work on by yourself at the court.If look at the history of the nba there are not alot of oscar robertson's,Jason Kidd 'smagic johnson's, john stockton's,or steve nash.Plus point gurds these days score more
Everyone doesnt want to see the court it really insnt that hard.. we for me i see things in advance but even beyond that its common sense but people see glory in taking the shot... (notice i didnt say scoring) To be a great playmaker .. you need to take risk, have patience,be willing, know where to hit the players where they are most effective and have some foresight.. .. you either got it or you dont..... INSTINCTS its more of an intangbile that leads to tangible gains.. compared to the other categories -
playmaker88 wrote: »Everyone doesnt want to see the court it really insnt that hard.. we for me i see things in advance but even beyond that its common sense but people see glory in taking the shot... (notice i didnt say scoring) To be a great playmaker .. you need to take risk, have patience,be willing, know where to hit the players where they are most effective and have some foresight.. .. you either got it or you dont..... INSTINCTS its more of an intangbile that leads to tangible gains.. compared to the other categories
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Jumpshot, basketball IQ, and playmaking ability.
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The Play making court vision Steve Nash type of passing skills easily!! The other stuff can be worked one vigorously until you get Atleast a lil better but court vision is kinda something you either have or you don't. You can go to any court in America and work on you own at post skills, work on your J. Good Defence is all about playing to your opponent's weakness but it's hard to practice mid court alley oops by yourself. You have to find somebody that dunks then get them to put in time with you. The rest of those catagories you can pretty much work on solo on the old backyard hoop
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shooting (free-throw or jumpshot) either you can shoot or you cant. if you cant shoot by time you go pro your in trouble.
playmaking is just instict and natural talent/ decision making -
Play making is not really a skill.
You cant just tell a player to stay in the gym late and practice his play making -
numbaz...80's baby wrote: »The jumpshot IMO. Simply because technique isn't the only thing that can affect your shot. Fatigue, defense, range, and shot selection all are factors that you have to figure out in order to be a good shooter.shooting (free-throw or jumpshot) either you can shoot or you cant. if you cant shoot by time you go pro your in trouble.
playmaking is just instict and natural talent/ decision making
Solid posts. You can tell a lot of these dudes didn't hoop at a competitive level saying ? like handle. You don't even need handle to play basketball unless you're the PG. Handle at a high level is about how you leverage your body so you get by your opponent. That's it. Everything else is some extra street ball ? .
What you need to make it to the next level is a solid jump shot. Shooting off the dribble with a hand in your face, Shooting over tall defenders, Being able to shoot set shots, Shooting off of screens, Shooting 3's (NBA 3's), free throws etc -
Yeah but I know a lot more people that had bad jumpers that got their j' s much more consistent and better than I knew people with no passing playmaking skills all of a sudden become Deron Williams with dime dropping on the blacktop or ymca. My shot got better just Playin wit people bigger than me that wouldn't let me get in the paint. I had to learn how to nail my J's where I was from. Maybe that's why I don't feel like learning how to shoot is that hard if you around the right personell and practice vigorously. There are not even that many play making drills you can do on your own to practice getting your passing and playmaking accurate
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Interesting responses and discussion.....
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NothingButTheTruth wrote: »Solid posts. You can tell a lot of these dudes didn't hoop at a competitive level saying ? like handle. You don't even need handle to play basketball unless you're the PG. Handle at a high level is about how you leverage your body so you get by your opponent. That's it. Everything else is some extra street ball ? .
What you need to make it to the next level is a solid jump shot. Shooting off the dribble with a hand in your face, Shooting over tall defenders, Being able to shoot set shots, Shooting off of screens, Shooting 3's (NBA 3's), free throws etc
never played ball past rec league post…ball handling and passing are two of the most important skills in ball bruh…technically speaking u don't need to be able to shoot from the outside to win games -
If you can acquire the skill to have this guy in your corner you will be very successful in the NBA. lol -
you can't really teach play making but you can teach someone to be a better PG, its usually about instinct, position, willingness, and keeping the tempo of the game. an untimely pass can mess up everything.
I would say the hardest skill to develop is dribbling and shooting form. off hand dribbling and developing range takes a quite of bit of time but it can be done. its also hard to teach technique because nobody really shoots the same. there are different mechanics but form is hard to teach if you are basing it off of a certain form.
ive always been a great shooter even when i had a horrible form, it just takes time and effort just like anything else.
been playing ball since 6th grade and as you go higher in comp passing and ball handling become more and more important. -
christhehighguy wrote: »being clutch, hitting clutch shots, late game steals/blocks. clutch gene.
That's exactly what I came back to this thread to say and you beat me to it. That's definitely some have it or don't ? . It shoulda definately been a topic. I knew guys who could actually do the other stuff and could not hit a game winner to save they life. Then I played with people that sucked at like 3 or 4 of the other things but had ice water in the veins when the game is tied. -
Shooting form is irrelevant i mean if you make shots shooting it off the back of your hand it goes in it goes in..
Clutch is intangible that leads to tangible results.. its not a skill
The most important thing to have in your arsenal is a mid range.. i dont have handle like that but i can get by.. my left isnt strong but i do certain things to where its not a hinderance..
