Why do they think Biggie is most technical than Tupac ?
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onepunch.. wrote: »Bottom line is Biggie was more of an emcee and Tupac was more of a Rapper....Biggie was trying to be lyrical to be considered a great emcee...Tupac was trying to tell you about his struggles and problems of the world..both were great at what they did...end of story
and with that said please let this be the end of this conversation...
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You could predict a lot of Pac's lyrics
Enemy, Hennesy, souldier, told ya, fiend, queen, ? me, feel me,etc
Couldn't have said it better my self. Pac was a GREAT songwriter... But Biggie could write songs, tell stories, and spit hard poetry almost at will...
This is why I have Biggie above Pac in my top 5... It's not like we're talking ill about Pac though, this is a discussion amongst TOP 5 DOA emcees right here...
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i thought this was known already.....since when did pac fans care about the technical aspect of the emcee.....thought it was only about content with them....big had better word play, vocab, flow etc really dont see an arguement here
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biggie flow is way overrated. i can name 10 ? in 1994 who could rap circles around him easily. i can name 20 ? who he wasnt ? with in 1997. only 90s crackbabies and ? catching up on old hip hop would think his flow was groundbreaking. what in the ? is your flow worth when Craig Mack wrote half his ? . biggie got outshined on every apperance. method ? on him. jay z ? on him. bizzy and layzie did a number on him. brat outshined him. mase outshined him. jada outshined him. just because he dead dont mean he the greatest. ? didnt think he was the best when he alive
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tompetrez3 wrote: »biggie flow is way overrated. i can name 10 ? in 1994 who could rap circles around him easily. i can name 20 ? who he wasnt ? with in 1997. only 90s crackbabies and ? catching up on old hip hop would think his flow was groundbreaking. what in the ? is your flow worth when Craig Mack wrote half his ? . biggie got outshined on every apperance. method ? on him. jay z ? on him. bizzy and layzie did a number on him. brat outshined him. mase outshined him. jada outshined him. just because he dead dont mean he the greatest. ? didnt think he was the best when he alive
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Disciplined InSight wrote: »tompetrez3 wrote: »biggie flow is way overrated. i can name 10 ? in 1994 who could rap circles around him easily. i can name 20 ? who he wasnt ? with in 1997. only 90s crackbabies and ? catching up on old hip hop would think his flow was groundbreaking. what in the ? is your flow worth when Craig Mack wrote half his ? . biggie got outshined on every apperance. method ? on him. jay z ? on him. bizzy and layzie did a number on him. brat outshined him. mase outshined him. jada outshined him. just because he dead dont mean he the greatest. ? didnt think he was the best when he alive
I still don't believe this...please provide accurate detailed proof of this.
still waiting on sun to provide that kool g rap diss to bdp...lol
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And_So_It_Burns wrote: »Biggie is a more techincal rapper than 2pac....If you understand how multi-syllabale and internal rhyme schemes work. Pac has more of basic rhyme pattern. Not to mention Biggie had more flows(song he did with bone thugs) "flaming gats, aiming ]at, these ? ...Maniacs who put my name in raps
My nine flies, bap-tize, rap guys
With the holy ghost
I put holes in most, you hold your toast shakey
Slip-n-trying to break me
No one is saying pac didn't use complex rhyme schemes im sure if you look around at pacs music you find some great schemes but biggie just did it better and more often
pac did not have a basic rhyme scheme then biggie pac rhyme scheme was actually more complex then biggie imo. and also there is nothing complex about that rhyme scheme
at all u posted from biggie that is a horrible example there is not multi's in that verse
example
i wake up early in the morning
My state so Military
Suckers Fantasize, Pictures of a
Young Brother Buried Was it me, The Weed, Or this life I lead If daytime is for suckers then
Tonight we breathe
Out for all that Knowing that this world brings drawbacks Look how this ? bumps
Once I deliver these war raps
Meet me at the cemetery
Dressed in Black
Tonight we
Honor the dead those who won't be back
So if I die do the same for me
Shed no tear
An Outlaw, thug living in this game,
for years
Why worry,
Hope to ?
Get me high
When I'm buried
Knowing deep inside only a few love me
Come rush me to the gates of heaven
Let me picture for a while
How I live for my days, as a child
I wonder now
How do we outlast, always get cash Stay strong if we all mash
Hold Your head
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pac had one of the greatest flows of all times , biggie was just more consistent with his technacalities then Pac,
but when pac was flowin that boy was flowin
? bless the dead & buried, ?
Don't worry, if you see ? first, tell Him ? got worse
I ain't mad, I know you're representin the crew
And I can picture you in Heaven, with a blunt & a brew
? the world, pain was a part of the game
If you a baller, money went as quick as it came
My role models ,gone or they locked in the pen
Straight hustlas, caught up in the whirlwind
The other day, I thought I seen my homeboy Biggie
Sayin ? don't stop, ? , no pity
We all hood, and all we ever had was dreams
Money makin ? , plottin scandalous schemes
In the gutter, you learn to have a criminal mind
I was addicted to tryin, never meant to do time
My epitaph, will read "Was the last of Gs
Kicked the ? to make the white man bleed
? bless the dead"
Man, ain't nobody promised me, a thang
I been caught up, in this game
Ever since, I was a little ? , wantin to hang
I can see 'em in my head, pow
Memories of my ? , but he dead now
Lookin back, in my yearbook, all the years took
Half my peers, they're stretched for years
And if I die, will they all shed tears
Two to the dome, leave me alone, let me get my head clear
Paranoid got me lookin in the mirror
Behind me, life without my nine, I'd rather do the time
See I'm old enough to know, that ain't no justice
? the police & all the courts, same way they ? us
And why the hell, am I locked in jail
They let them white boys free, we be shocked as hell
In my mind, I can see it comin
And all the time ,it's a plot to keep a ? runnin
By keepin gun & never run, unless I'm comin at ya
Cry later, but for now, let's enjoy the laughter
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While Biggie might have been better the MC because of his metaphors, punchlines and wordplay, Pac was definately the better artist because of his range. Pac literally touched on different aspect of the world and life, and because of the emotion he displayed, you could really empathize with him.
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I see death around the corner, gotta stay high, while I survive
In the city ,where the skinny ? die
If they bury me, bury me as a G, ? , no need to worry
I expect retaliation in a hurry
I see death, around the- corner, anyday
Trying ,to keep it together, no one lives forever, anyway
Strugglin and strivin, my destiny's to die
Keep my finger on the trigger, no mercy in my eyes
In a ball of confusion, I think about my daddy
Madder than a ? , they never shoulda had me
I guess I seen too many murders, the doctors can't help me
Got me stressin' with my pistol in my sheets, it ain't healthy
Am I paranoid? - Tell me the truth
I'm out the window, with my AK, ready to shoot
Ran out of endo, and my mind can't take the stress,
I'm out of breath
Make me wanna ? my damn self,
but I see death around the corner
I see death around the corner,
the pressure's getting to me
I no longer trust my homies,
them phonies, tried to do me
Smoking too much weed,
got me paranoid, stressed
Pack a gat and my vest,
under my clothes, when I dress
Here's hopin I die, the way I lived,
straight thuggin'
Huggin' my trigger, for all them ?
who was buggin'
My homie told me once,
don't you trust them other suckers
They fought like they your homies
but they phony, ?
And even if I did, die young, who cares
All I ever got was mean mugs, and cold stares
I got homies in my head
who done passed away, screamin please
Young ? , make Gs
I can't give up, although I'm hopeless,
I think my mind's gone
All I can do is get my grind on, death around the corner
I was raised in the city, ?
Ever since, I was an itty bitty kitty
Drinkin' liquor, out my momma's ?
And smokin' weed was an everyday thang, in my household,
And drinking liquor, til' you out cold
And tho' i'm gone now, ? it's still on- Pow
Bustin on them ? , til they gone
How many more jealous ass bitches, comin for my riches
Now I gotta stay suspicious, when I bone
Cause if I ain't sharp and heartless,
them ? will start ?
Excuse me, but this is where we part ?
No more, game for free, please explain to me
Why ? trip, ? , who you came to see?
Murderin' now, but see me later man, as for my pops
I got homies, that will hunt you, til you drop
I hope the Lord will forgive me, I was a G
And gettin high was a way of gettin free
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harry knucklez wrote: »While Biggie might have been better the MC because of his metaphors, punchlines and wordplay, Pac was definately the better artist because of his range. Pac literally touched on different aspect of the world and life, and because of the emotion he displayed, you could really empathize with him.
That's all fine and all, but don't proclaim Pac a great mc then if he doesn't excel at the technicalities of it. Call him a poet then! -
Lol...yo since some of you dudes know about the T/S thread posting skills
How about all the posters just flag this ? or give him some wacks??
dead ass...flag this ? NOW
Damn you feelings really hurt by this thread to the point of you wanting to have it shut down? Not a good look there quite sad ? ...
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Had to bump this ? lol pac ain't no where near big as far as HIPHOP is concerned.... pac lyrics was ass checks compared to biggies
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Man music aint a scientific formula. All but .000001% of the population just knows they like a song. It comes on, they like how it sounds and start movin. I listen to 2Pac all the time and some of his cds are must haves for me.That dont mean i have a problem with Biggie. Different music for when i feel like listenin to it.
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Better wordplay means technical in the hip hop community.
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He could have. But The reason Pac didn't want to be more technical is because the audience he was making his music for. He didn't rap over their head
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Biggie is better than tupakk in every aspect of mcing Only thing tupakk was better than biggie at was rapping off beat and draggin words out Ie :Pleasure and paaaiiiiiiiiiiin holla my naaaaaaaammeee etc
Tupakk couldn't tell stories like big,couldn't spit like big,didn't have the impeccable flow and never had an album better than biggies 2 albums and tupakk made da WOAT commercial songs like how do u want it and tempatations why big dropped bangas.It's common knowledge Big>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tupakk
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Jesus Christ.
Tommy, you gotta admit that Pac>>>B.I.G. in terms of songs worth for albums, bruh. -
^What does that mean?
Henessseeeeeeeeey got me feelin bad/Time to stop drinkin/I'm rollin/ in that top drop jag/what that cop thinkin
Lmao better biggie? FOH
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Anybody who thinks the ballerina is better than big is doin this^
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Biggie's rhymes weren't complex at all.
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"ever since I was an itty bitty kitty" biggie wins by default cause of this.
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lmao
? asked that fool was he 6-7 -
I remember back in high school, baby you was fast
Straight sex, when move your ass
LOL
I ? with Pac, but he ain't seeing Biggie.. -
Its down to opinion in the end,but biggie sounded nice at times,unlike tupac he didnt have substance in his raps. Wasnt really saying anything that provokes thought, i guess folks don't appriciate and cant stomach that,they rather listen to light ? .
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DMTxCannabis wrote: »I remember back in high school, baby you was fast
Straight sex, when move your ass
LOL
These are my go to bars every time I want to show people how wacc pac really was
Or
"Straight from the halls to the pen/an adolescent ? standin way higher than 6 feet 10"
Pac was garbage.Jim jones lyrically>>>>>Pac.Getting shot da fucc up dying and havin your moms build statues,release posthumus albums and build art centers can do a lot for a legacy.
