Is this the future of America? City of Scranton lowers wage for all city workers to minimum wage
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Change our currency to love, what really matters in life.
Yeah, compassion would be a great way to live as a society. But it's all about the mighty dollar, and that would be fine if it wasn't for the high inflation rate as a society we have now since the 1950s. The debt has ruined America for a long time, maybe forever, but if bailouts would happen for the middle class and poor it would be all good. Sad politicians on both sides have sold us down the river, the rich get massive welfare in the trillions of dollars while everyone else gets ? . Crazy.... -
If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
UGH, disgusting. Exactly why I don't wana vote for Obama or Romney. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
UGH, disgusting. Exactly why I don't wana vote for Obama or Romney.
I'll vote for Romney - Imo this nation will not survive another term under mister collective salvation. I cringe every time I hear the President mention this term - 'investment' aka spend more and more and then some.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
UGH, disgusting. Exactly why I don't wana vote for Obama or Romney.
I'll vote for Romney - Imo this nation will not survive another term under mister collective salvation. I cringe every time I hear the President mention this term - 'investment' aka spend more and more and then some.
Yeah Obama is all about deficit spending instead of new ideas to improve the fiscal state of our economy. Deficit spending is okay but if one doesn't have any ideas to save or create new forms of revenue without massive borrowing, it's gona hurt more than help in the long run. If Romney is elected though, you're not worried about a war with Iran? Romney seems pretty gung ? about war, even more than Obama. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
UGH, disgusting. Exactly why I don't wana vote for Obama or Romney.
I'll vote for Romney - Imo this nation will not survive another term under mister collective salvation. I cringe every time I hear the President mention this term - 'investment' aka spend more and more and then some.
Yeah Obama is all about deficit spending instead of new ideas to improve the fiscal state of our economy. Deficit spending is okay but if one doesn't have any ideas to save or create new forms of revenue without massive borrowing, it's gona hurt more than help in the long run. If Romney is elected though, you're not worried about a war with Iran? Romney seems pretty gung ? about war, even more than Obama.
If it's about bogus actions and were going there to spread democracy - like in Afghanistan and Iraq then all bets are off. Now if its instigated by the Iranians & they block the straight of Hormuz & threatened the flow of oil - well, then we just can't sit back and not retaliate - damned if we do and damn if we don't - I DON'T KNOW?
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A lot of great opinions posted on this thread. Why don't you take it to a platform where you can be heard and something can be done?
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i take it you have never been to Jersey?kingblaze84 wrote: »
-address the long-term issues of things like Social Security;kingblaze84 wrote: »Ok we can come to an agreement here. How do you think America can increase it's revenues and pay down the debt in a serious way at the same time?
-remove an appropriate amount of tax cuts/credits/whatever to raise revenue;
-spend less ? money (i guess we should only fight wars we NEED to for right now);
-do not immediately give away money we've saved with tax cuts or other crazy spending;
-maybe sell New Jersey? no one would miss it
I sympathize with everything you've said, but what's your beef with Jersey? It produced The Sopranos and Shaq, it's not that bad a state. Makes a ton of money too for a state its size.
And if social security is touched by any politician, that politician's career is over. ESPECIALLY while Wall Street gets bailed out with trillions, social security cuts will be looked upon as evil by most of the population. This is why I get the logic behind cutting social security, but not while big banks get wild bailouts and everyone else gets crumbs. When the 99% get trillions of dollars in bailouts, THAN I will support cutting social security.
and that's exactly the problem: no politician will address Social Security's problems because it's more important to get elected than actually address real problems. further, if Social Security needs reform because it's not solvent forever, this is a problem that NEEDS to be addressed whether or not a big bank gets a wild bailout. i mean, hell, you're sitting here going "throw money at the 99% first and then worry about Social Security." doesn't fixing Social Security HELP the 99%? it's not the 1% that are going to need it. -
A lot of great opinions posted on this thread. Why don't you take it to a platform where you can be heard and something can be done?
Well I did participate in several Occupy Wall Street protests that were great times while it lasted, and I still believe those days changed the way politicians talk about the poor and middle class. At one point, the conversation in Washington DC was all about cutting programs for the poor and middle class. Now, politicians in DC are even willing to cut military spending, as the Obama administration did promise to do within the next five years, a good first step. Even Republicans have talked more about raising revenues than just cutting aid for the working class, the same kind of aid bankers and Wall Street received when their companies were going bankrupt.
I admit Occupy Wall Street has faded out (temporarily) but I have also spoken on these issues on college campus at Hunter College where I went, and have written to several politicians. Huge steps, maybe not but I have tried to make my voice heard. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms.
UGH, disgusting. Exactly why I don't wana vote for Obama or Romney.
I'll vote for Romney - Imo this nation will not survive another term under mister collective salvation. I cringe every time I hear the President mention this term - 'investment' aka spend more and more and then some.
Yeah Obama is all about deficit spending instead of new ideas to improve the fiscal state of our economy. Deficit spending is okay but if one doesn't have any ideas to save or create new forms of revenue without massive borrowing, it's gona hurt more than help in the long run. If Romney is elected though, you're not worried about a war with Iran? Romney seems pretty gung ? about war, even more than Obama.
If it's about bogus actions and were going there to spread democracy - like in Afghanistan and Iraq then all bets are off. Now if its instigated by the Iranians & they block the straight of Hormuz & threatened the flow of oil - well, then we just can't sit back and not retaliate - damned if we do and damn if we don't - I DON'T KNOW?
I like you can admit you don't know the answers to the Iranian issue. In my opinion we shouldn't be going to war against Iran under any circumstances, unless they strike the first blow against America for no reason. But Iran would technically have the right to block the straight of Hormuz, it's right on their land lol. Romney is more than just gung ? though, the way he talks is reckless and offensive, he said Israel is more wealthy than Palestinian lands because of culture LOL, what a ? idiot. Look at all the land Israel has stolen and how Palestinians don't even have access to their own water or farmland in many places, so Romney just seemed stupid and ignorant for what he said. He also said he wouldn't mind if Israel made a strike on Iran now, this is not the kind of talk that will make America more liked, just more hated than we are worldwide in way too many places. -
i take it you have never been to Jersey?kingblaze84 wrote: »
-address the long-term issues of things like Social Security;kingblaze84 wrote: »Ok we can come to an agreement here. How do you think America can increase it's revenues and pay down the debt in a serious way at the same time?
-remove an appropriate amount of tax cuts/credits/whatever to raise revenue;
-spend less ? money (i guess we should only fight wars we NEED to for right now);
-do not immediately give away money we've saved with tax cuts or other crazy spending;
-maybe sell New Jersey? no one would miss it
I sympathize with everything you've said, but what's your beef with Jersey? It produced The Sopranos and Shaq, it's not that bad a state. Makes a ton of money too for a state its size.
And if social security is touched by any politician, that politician's career is over. ESPECIALLY while Wall Street gets bailed out with trillions, social security cuts will be looked upon as evil by most of the population. This is why I get the logic behind cutting social security, but not while big banks get wild bailouts and everyone else gets crumbs. When the 99% get trillions of dollars in bailouts, THAN I will support cutting social security.
and that's exactly the problem: no politician will address Social Security's problems because it's more important to get elected than actually address real problems. further, if Social Security needs reform because it's not solvent forever, this is a problem that NEEDS to be addressed whether or not a big bank gets a wild bailout. i mean, hell, you're sitting here going "throw money at the 99% first and then worry about Social Security." doesn't fixing Social Security HELP the 99%? it's not the 1% that are going to need it.
I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear. -
And I've been to Jersey, some parts are bad but many are really good. It's nothing at all compared to New York obviously, but many parts are very nice and quiet. Boring maybe, but I've always believed in making your own fun.
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if you're talking about an issue of funding social security, i don't see how the format in which you pay it out is going to mean much. that said, did you just say it's dependent on politicians learning to save and not spend? never mind, then.kingblaze84 wrote: »I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear.
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if you're talking about an issue of funding social security, i don't see how the format in which you pay it out is going to mean much. that said, did you just say it's dependent on politicians learning to save and not spend? never mind, then.kingblaze84 wrote: »I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear.
Well yeah it's easy to be cynical about politicians learning to save and not spend too much, but that's the real reason I don't want to see social security cut back. I'd rather see Medicare and Medicaid along with military spending cut back, these hurt the deficit more than anything else, that along with the Bush tax cuts. Better yet, cut wasteful spending like the wars, end completely the Bush tax cuts and limit drastically military spending, and we wouldn't have to make cuts to social security for at least another twenty plus years. Plus as I've said before, we need to have social security become some kind of currency away from the dollar. If that's socialist, so be it. I don't see why nations like Libya under Gaddafi and North Korea can have housing and health care GUARANTEED but America, SUPPOSEDLY the richest nation on Earth, can't have guaranteed social security. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »
if you're talking about an issue of funding social security, i don't see how the format in which you pay it out is going to mean much. that said, did you just say it's dependent on politicians learning to save and not spend? never mind, then.kingblaze84 wrote: »I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear.
Well yeah it's easy to be cynical about politicians learning to save and not spend too much, but that's the real reason I don't want to see social security cut back. I'd rather see Medicare and Medicaid along with military spending cut back, these hurt the deficit more than anything else, that along with the Bush tax cuts. Better yet, cut wasteful spending like the wars, end completely the Bush tax cuts and limit drastically military spending, and we wouldn't have to make cuts to social security for at least another twenty plus years. Plus as I've said before, we need to have social security become some kind of currency away from the dollar. If that's socialist, so be it. I don't see why nations like Libya under Gaddafi and North Korea can have housing and health care GUARANTEED but America, SUPPOSEDLY the richest nation on Earth, can't have guaranteed social security.
WTF?
SERIOUSLY - this coming from a supposedly educated man? I'm disappointed. I've been to Korea and seen some of the most nasty stuff I don't ever wanna see again - look at the current events going on in those aforementioned countries & you have the nerve to make that kind of comment - & personally I think your still ungrateful for what this country truly affords it's citizens - also you aren't alone in that UNGRATEFULNESS - lots of whining Americans haven't got a clue.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »
if you're talking about an issue of funding social security, i don't see how the format in which you pay it out is going to mean much. that said, did you just say it's dependent on politicians learning to save and not spend? never mind, then.kingblaze84 wrote: »I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear.
Well yeah it's easy to be cynical about politicians learning to save and not spend too much, but that's the real reason I don't want to see social security cut back. I'd rather see Medicare and Medicaid along with military spending cut back, these hurt the deficit more than anything else, that along with the Bush tax cuts. Better yet, cut wasteful spending like the wars, end completely the Bush tax cuts and limit drastically military spending, and we wouldn't have to make cuts to social security for at least another twenty plus years. Plus as I've said before, we need to have social security become some kind of currency away from the dollar. If that's socialist, so be it. I don't see why nations like Libya under Gaddafi and North Korea can have housing and health care GUARANTEED but America, SUPPOSEDLY the richest nation on Earth, can't have guaranteed social security.
WTF?
SERIOUSLY - this coming from a supposedly educated man? I'm disappointed. I've been to Korea and seen some of the most nasty stuff I don't ever wanna see again - look at the current events going on in those aforementioned countries & you have the nerve to make that kind of comment - & personally I think your still ungrateful for what this country truly affords it's citizens - also you aren't alone in that UNGRATEFULNESS - lots of whining Americans haven't got a clue.
North Korea and Libya obviously have problems but so do we here in America. I can talk about the many problems we have here in America, do you really want me to go there?? I don't think you do lol.....but if you do, I can eaisly go there!!! It doesn't make me ungrateful to live here though, overall I do like living in America, although I also want to move out the country in about twenty years if I' lucky. Why?? High cost of living and the dying dollar, something I hear people talk about ALL THE TIME as a paralegal for a foreclosure law firm. It doesn't make someone a whiner to note our issues here in this country, you complain about the state of America more than me, probably more than anybody else in this forum. -
@kingblaze84: they ALL hurt the deficit more than the Bush tax cuts, the real argument is that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are much more necessary/justifiable than the Bush tax cuts. the thing about military spending that you're forgetting, however, is that there's a bipartisan effort to keep jobs based on military spending in everyone's states/districts.
still don't see how this other currency concept works if you have to pay for Social Security at all. do we not have debates about food stamps in this country?
the North Korea thing is a bogus assertion since you're claiming a nation that imprisons or executes people on a whim is sincerely providing housing and health care with open arms. come on, now. -
@kingblaze84: they ALL hurt the deficit more than the Bush tax cuts, the real argument is that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are much more necessary/justifiable than the Bush tax cuts. the thing about military spending that you're forgetting, however, is that there's a bipartisan effort to keep jobs based on military spending in everyone's states/districts.
still don't see how this other currency concept works if you have to pay for Social Security at all. do we not have debates about food stamps in this country?
the North Korea thing is a bogus assertion since you're claiming a nation that imprisons or executes people on a whim is sincerely providing housing and health care with open arms. come on, now.
How do you think Social Security should be handled in the long term than? I get what you're saying but if there is political will, military spending and social security can be better handled and protected. Politicians have raided social security funds many times in the past, so my ideas for social security may be utopian fantasy, which makes me even more motivated to leave this nation one day. The social safety net in this nation is getting weaker and weaker, a sad thing to see but I believe there is a way to help keep SS from being gutted, the way Paul Ryan wants to do with Romney. Obama is not spending money responsibly enough to even have moral authority on SS at this point. -
Some cities are firing their police departments SMH.......what other departments will be next?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/these-cities-have-fired-their-police-forces-because-of-the-economy/
On December 1, Youngtown, AZ, joined the ranks of the many U.S. cities and towns that have fired their local police forces, reports 24/7 Wall St. In recent years, it has become somewhat of a bizarre and unsettling trend across the country for municipalities to disband their police departments, mostly because of financial restrictions.
Using information from the National Fraternal Order of Police and conversations with a number of police departments, 24/7 found nearly 50 cities and towns that either considered dismantling or have already dismantled their police forces in the past four years.
Researchers who compiled this data also received help from Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard and the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office—a department that has taken over law enforcement responsibilities for 16 police forces in the country.
The initial list was cut down to include only the largest municipalities and the most recent cases of police force termination.
There are a number of reasons that contribute to a local government dismissing its police department.
“Some cities, such as Pewaukee, Wis., face controversies revolving around questionable police actions,” writes Charles B. Stockdale. “Others, such as Pontiac, Mich., have exceptionally high crime rates, giving city officials additional incentive to take a different approach to law enforcement.”
However, the primary reason for laying off an entire police force is cost cutting. Every municipality on this list has disbanded its local police force in order to, at least in part, save money.
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This is what happens when a nation is 16 trillion in debt, things might get worse, save your money ya'll......
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kingblaze84 wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »
if you're talking about an issue of funding social security, i don't see how the format in which you pay it out is going to mean much. that said, did you just say it's dependent on politicians learning to save and not spend? never mind, then.kingblaze84 wrote: »I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear.
Well yeah it's easy to be cynical about politicians learning to save and not spend too much, but that's the real reason I don't want to see social security cut back. I'd rather see Medicare and Medicaid along with military spending cut back, these hurt the deficit more than anything else, that along with the Bush tax cuts. Better yet, cut wasteful spending like the wars, end completely the Bush tax cuts and limit drastically military spending, and we wouldn't have to make cuts to social security for at least another twenty plus years. Plus as I've said before, we need to have social security become some kind of currency away from the dollar. If that's socialist, so be it. I don't see why nations like Libya under Gaddafi and North Korea can have housing and health care GUARANTEED but America, SUPPOSEDLY the richest nation on Earth, can't have guaranteed social security.
WTF?
SERIOUSLY - this coming from a supposedly educated man? I'm disappointed. I've been to Korea and seen some of the most nasty stuff I don't ever wanna see again - look at the current events going on in those aforementioned countries & you have the nerve to make that kind of comment - & personally I think your still ungrateful for what this country truly affords it's citizens - also you aren't alone in that UNGRATEFULNESS - lots of whining Americans haven't got a clue.
North Korea and Libya obviously have problems but so do we here in America. I can talk about the many problems we have here in America, do you really want me to go there?? I don't think you do lol.....but if you do, I can eaisly go there!!! It doesn't make me ungrateful to live here though, overall I do like living in America, although I also want to move out the country in about twenty years if I' lucky. Why?? High cost of living and the dying dollar, something I hear people talk about ALL THE TIME as a paralegal for a foreclosure law firm. It doesn't make someone a whiner to note our issues here in this country, you complain about the state of America more than me, probably more than anybody else in this forum.
Do yourself and ME a big favor - name some countries or cities run predominantly by black leadership that's been successful. Name some countries within the continent of African that does for there countrymen that this country does for its citizens - come on man you love to critize the white man for all the bad they'll done - name some names - IE black leadership has done good for its people w/o massive corruption --- please,thanks.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »High Revolutionary wrote: »Meh, in my opinion minimum wage should be done away with completely.
Do you say that because many businesses would probably hire more people if the federal minimum wage was eliminated?
Yup, especially small businesses.
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we're going to have to trim back what it's going to pay out to our legions and legions of baby boomers: they're not getting Social Security based on what they paid into it, they're getting Social Security based on what guys like you and i pay into it RIGHT NOW. do we cut back the payout, do we raise the age at which one collects it, do we make people worth X dollars ineligible for it ... well, we probably don't do any of these because old people vote and young people are short-sighted.kingblaze84 wrote: »How do you think Social Security should be handled in the long term than? I get what you're saying but if there is political will, military spending and social security can be better handled and protected. Politicians have raided social security funds many times in the past, so my ideas for social security may be utopian fantasy, which makes me even more motivated to leave this nation one day. The social safety net in this nation is getting weaker and weaker, a sad thing to see but I believe there is a way to help keep SS from being gutted, the way Paul Ryan wants to do with Romney. Obama is not spending money responsibly enough to even have moral authority on SS at this point.
and political will to cut military programs that fund a congressman or senator's home base? AHAHAHAHAHA
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okay, let me see if i follow:Do yourself and ME a big favor - name some countries or cities run predominantly by black leadership that's been successful. Name some countries within the continent of African that does for there countrymen that this country does for its citizens - come on man you love to critize the white man for all the bad they'll done - name some names - IE black leadership has done good for its people w/o massive corruption --- please,thanks.
-kingblaze claims North Korea and Libya have done something the US doesn't (we'll ignore whether or not we agree)
-heyslick disagrees because he's been to Korea (okay, moving on)
-kingblaze takes a weird position that North Korea, Libya and America all have problems (obviously)
-heyslick comes back with an attack on cities run by blacks and African countries run by blacks
hmmm.
so was this just an excuse to get back to yelling "BLACKS ARE STUPID AND UNGRATEFUL?" because that seems ridiculous, but it means you could have skipped all that Korea stuff if you weren't going to go anywhere with it except "right back to being annoyed by those uppity blacks who don't miss the Deep South circa 1848" -
kingblaze84 wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »
if you're talking about an issue of funding social security, i don't see how the format in which you pay it out is going to mean much. that said, did you just say it's dependent on politicians learning to save and not spend? never mind, then.kingblaze84 wrote: »I get you, and I agree overall but this would not sit well with Americans. Deep down, most Americans want a small form of socialism when it comes to benefits after working, so in my opinion the REAL way to solve the social security crisis would be to make social security a different currency from the dollar, so that way, it would be a safe and risk free form of aid, kind of like food stamps. Economically, I think this would work out, as long as politicians learn to save more money than spend. Too many endless wars and its human costs have bankrupted this nation almost to the point where America's future is guaranteed to be a disaster. Make social security a currency similar to food stamps, and I bet you this whole "social security crisis" will disappear.
Well yeah it's easy to be cynical about politicians learning to save and not spend too much, but that's the real reason I don't want to see social security cut back. I'd rather see Medicare and Medicaid along with military spending cut back, these hurt the deficit more than anything else, that along with the Bush tax cuts. Better yet, cut wasteful spending like the wars, end completely the Bush tax cuts and limit drastically military spending, and we wouldn't have to make cuts to social security for at least another twenty plus years. Plus as I've said before, we need to have social security become some kind of currency away from the dollar. If that's socialist, so be it. I don't see why nations like Libya under Gaddafi and North Korea can have housing and health care GUARANTEED but America, SUPPOSEDLY the richest nation on Earth, can't have guaranteed social security.
WTF?
SERIOUSLY - this coming from a supposedly educated man? I'm disappointed. I've been to Korea and seen some of the most nasty stuff I don't ever wanna see again - look at the current events going on in those aforementioned countries & you have the nerve to make that kind of comment - & personally I think your still ungrateful for what this country truly affords it's citizens - also you aren't alone in that UNGRATEFULNESS - lots of whining Americans haven't got a clue.
North Korea and Libya obviously have problems but so do we here in America. I can talk about the many problems we have here in America, do you really want me to go there?? I don't think you do lol.....but if you do, I can eaisly go there!!! It doesn't make me ungrateful to live here though, overall I do like living in America, although I also want to move out the country in about twenty years if I' lucky. Why?? High cost of living and the dying dollar, something I hear people talk about ALL THE TIME as a paralegal for a foreclosure law firm. It doesn't make someone a whiner to note our issues here in this country, you complain about the state of America more than me, probably more than anybody else in this forum.
Do yourself and ME a big favor - name some countries or cities run predominantly by black leadership that's been successful. Name some countries within the continent of African that does for there countrymen that this country does for its citizens - come on man you love to critize the white man for all the bad they'll done - name some names - IE black leadership has done good for its people w/o massive corruption --- please,thanks.
You had to bring race into it again lol, but you do realize the reason America and so many Western nations around the world have better economic systems compared to other nations is due to theft of resources, economic hitmen, colonialism, and bloodshed right? America has a long history of each, so you just made yourself look like an idiot by comparing America to Black nations around the world, but Africa is still rebounding from years of theft, murder, and plundering at the hands of you White folks. Here are some numbers if you really want to see.....
Unemployment in sub-Saharan Africa is at 17% as of 2011, high but much better than in the past and still comparable to other parts of the world
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153884/global-unemployment-2011.aspx
Economic growth in Africa is rising at a rapid pace, faster than most if not all regions on Earth
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Whats_driving_Africas_growth_2601
What’s driving Africa’s growth
The rate of return on foreign investment is higher in Africa than in any other developing region. Global executives and investors must pay heed.
Africa’s economic pulse has quickened, infusing the continent with a new commercial vibrancy. Real GDP rose by 4.9 percent a year from 2000 through 2008, more than twice its pace in the 1980s and ’90s. Telecommunications, banking, and retailing are flourishing. Construction is booming. Private-investment inflows are surging.
To be sure, many of Africa’s 50-plus individual economies face serious challenges, including poverty, disease, and high infant mortality. Yet Africa’s collective GDP, at $1.6 trillion in 2008, is now roughly equal to Brazil’s or Russia’s, and the continent is among the world’s most rapidly growing economic regions. This acceleration is a sign of hard-earned progress and promise.
While Africa’s increased economic momentum is widely recognized, its sources and likely staying power are less understood. Soaring prices for oil, minerals, and other commodities have helped lift GDP since 2000. Forthcoming research from the McKinsey Global Institute (MGI) shows that resources accounted for only about a third of the newfound growth.1 The rest resulted from internal structural changes that have spurred the broader domestic economy. Wars, natural disasters, or poor government policies could halt or even reverse these gains in any individual country. But in the long term, internal and external trends indicate that Africa’s economic prospects are strong.
----Africa still has a ways to go economically but you can't measure a country's success by money. Low cost of living, something many nations in the Caribbean and Africa have, can be a measure of happiness. Family and sense of community are also factors of happiness, and considering the United States has much worse rates of violence and crime compared to most nations in the Caribbean and Africa, among other social ills, you can't pretend America has moral authority over ANY part of the world. Read some world magazines and stop being ignorant. -
High Revolutionary wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »High Revolutionary wrote: »Meh, in my opinion minimum wage should be done away with completely.
Do you say that because many businesses would probably hire more people if the federal minimum wage was eliminated?
Yup, especially small businesses.
I hear you and I kind of agree, but my only worry is that many businesses would take advantage of an elimination of minimum wage and begin paying slave wages. Once a society has too many people being paid slave wages, than social chaos will become the order of the day. ESPECIALLY in a nation with a high cost of living like America. If America had a low cost of living such as most places in the Caribbean, this idea would better work.
