Let's Talk About: Demonic Possession & Exorcisms
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Why ? who knows what all my actions are gonna be testing me? My destiny and fate is set right? So if I'm gonna be a serial killer and murder innocents ? knows before I do right? So why create me and let me live a test you already predetermined the outcome of? If ? is real he just trolling ? .
Exactly, which makes ? a joke. There's no sense in ? "testing" someone when the outcome is known, or when he already knew the world would sin yet feels saddened when they do then destroys them due to sin, making a new population of people only to sin again.
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Why ? who knows what all my actions are gonna be testing me? My destiny and fate is set right? So if I'm gonna be a serial killer and murder innocents ? knows before I do right? So why create me and let me live a test you already predetermined the outcome of? If ? is real he just trolling ? .
Exactly, which makes ? a joke. There's no sense in ? "testing" someone when the outcome is known, or when he already knew the world would sin yet feels saddened when they do then destroys them due to sin, making a new population of people only to sin again.
It makes no sense at all but thinking about it like that makes us illogical. Haha -
bootcheese3000 wrote: »Damn some of y'all are ignorant as ? . I can't even finish this 2nd page without shaking my head in shame. Some of you cats really don't know what you're talking about.
Opening yourself up to demons in order to experience ? /Allah....now THAT'S some STOOPID-ASS ? to tell someone. True enough you can't get to Heaven before going to Hell but to say you have to be evil or communicate with demons to get there is not good advice. Whoever said that evil will follow you if you're doing good is correct, I know I can attest to that (Hell it's happening right now!). For the atheists speaking on a subject they're myopically limited on (I'm not saying I'm a guru but I'm no fool when it comes to spirituality of ALL FORMS, and that includes what Eurocated scholars call "mythology") apparently you believed that 1nce upon a time there was a ? . I've stated here before you can't defy that there's a ? unless you BELIEVE that one exists, how can you believe in something that doesn't exist in the 1st place?
Now as far as this subject is concerned yes, possession is real and does happen but it's not just demons like people are led to believe, in some instances angels possess a individual if not a ancient deity. There are ceremonies to call upon these spirits to help and assist and sometimes they possess the vessel to get their message across and to swiftly assist whoever needs it. These are some of the things I'm studying at the moment, I've had my ? ' fill of demons and evil vibrations for 10 lifetimes, the world is ready for a healing. The question is ARE YOU?
I never said to open yourself up to demons to experience ? that would make no sense. i said if you want to experience the paranormal it is easier to do so if you seek the darkside. atheist cannot or refuse to see ? it is however easier to see the devil and i am not just taking about the reality of evil men. They question the existence of the spirit world because they have not seen any proof it is easier to find proof of the dark side than light so i told them to start there it's maybe the only way for them to experience it. -
Why ? who knows what all my actions are gonna be testing me? My destiny and fate is set right? So if I'm gonna be a serial killer and murder innocents ? knows before I do right? So why create me and let me live a test you already predetermined the outcome of? If ? is real he just trolling ? .
Not every action is predetermined ? sees and knows all the possibilities before you make them and gives you a chance to make the right ones. -
LOL!!! excuse me... LOL!!!!
Back the ? up, you aint got nothin on me as far as understanding the bible, do not address me again, cuz I will not respond.
that time is coming soon.. dont you read the Bible? have you read the prophecies? dont you know what the 7 trumpets are? this aint some throw away game hes playing lol. "oh the devil showed up? lemme scrap that right quick" lol the devil is suppose to be here. its a war over souls.And who said ? had to drowned the devil? He's ? for ? 's sake, throw that little bastard in the lake of fire already! What it aint made yet? How long it take to make? ? made the whole shibang in 6days!!
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So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
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you lost when you compared ? to a animal. i have never heard a good argument why there is no ? .... there is no logical reason. everything is misinformed, extreme, short-sighted, ignorant, and just not logical.So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
when your argument is persistently comparing ? to santa clause or some other youth story figure, its just not a argument. it makes you look silly to even drop those comparisons. its really not even worth a reply, the ignorance irritates my soul.. so im just done talking about it. it is what it is, you can believe whatever you want. i tried to put logic on here for the atheists but of course, they use ignorance & insults as their arguing chip. nothing new there. same everywhere you go with atheists. ugly people.
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So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? . -
you lost when you compared ? to a animal. i have never heard a good argument why there is no ? .... there is no logical reason. everything is misinformed, extreme, short-sighted, ignorant, and just not logical.So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
when your argument is persistently comparing ? to santa clause or some other youth story figure, its just not a argument. it makes you look silly to even drop those comparisons. its really not even worth a reply, the ignorance irritates my soul.. so im just done talking about it. it is what it is, you can believe whatever you want. i tried to put logic on here for the atheists but of course, they use ignorance & insults as their arguing chip. nothing new there. same everywhere you go with atheists. ugly people.
To be fair, I've never heard a good reason or argument for the existence of ? -
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »
you lost when you compared ? to a animal. i have never heard a good argument why there is no ? .... there is no logical reason. everything is misinformed, extreme, short-sighted, ignorant, and just not logical.So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
when your argument is persistently comparing ? to santa clause or some other youth story figure, its just not a argument. it makes you look silly to even drop those comparisons. its really not even worth a reply, the ignorance irritates my soul.. so im just done talking about it. it is what it is, you can believe whatever you want. i tried to put logic on here for the atheists but of course, they use ignorance & insults as their arguing chip. nothing new there. same everywhere you go with atheists. ugly people.
To be fair, I've never heard a good reason or argument for the existence of ?
there is no ONE good argument.. its EVERYTHING. its the bigger picture.. its everything together.
only ONE argument i can say is this, whats the purpose of life. why are we here.. how did we get here.. and everything that science leans towards is illogical cuz science would tell you life is meaningless and we are here by accident.. no meaning is illogical.
basically, what im saying is, the truth is not "so simple" as you would like to believe, "we just here, we live, then we die, and thats it" (im sure thats not far off from your beliefs?)
that makes no sense, if you think about it.
but really, the truth is simple, if you shake that pride off.
but regardless, you will think whatever you want, no matter what scripture is presented to you, no matter what facts is presented to you, nothing in this world will change your mind. you will have to either witness Jesus' 2nd coming, or die in order for you to have a change of heart. -
Personally, I believe that man decides his own purpose. Why must there be a divine purpose? The only purpose I see is to live in harmony with others but that is my personal interpretation. A grain of sand in the ocean may have no significant purpose alone in the grand scheme of things. What makes you think your existence alone holds any significance within the whole of the universe? You are here because of certain causes and conditions before you but there is no reason to assume divinity played a role in your being here.
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Your assumptions about my beliefs are innaccurate
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Roots Oceanic wrote: »Your assumptions about my beliefs are innaccurate
so why are we here? you didnt answer that. you just said live peacefully. but why? if we just come and go to blackness after we die, what would living with any morality mean? why? there has to be a reason to live in harmony.
you have to give to get. but if you giving (living morally and peacefully amongst others), what are you getting in return if we just fade to black?? for every action theres a reaction. no different than the life you live. but your body dying is not the end of the rope.... its just the beginning.
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Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? . -
I did answer that. We are here because of past actions.
As conscious beings, we are responsible for our actions. We live to preserve our being and prolong our existence. It is only logical that we treat others with the same respect. The one is in the all. The ethics of reciprocity.
I told you before, I do not believe that we just fade to black and thats it so the rest of your post I will ignore. -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »I did answer that. We are here because of past actions.
As conscious beings, we are responsible for our actions. We live to preserve our being and prolong our existence. It is only logical that we treat others with the same respect. The one is in the all. The ethics of reciprocity.
I told you before, I do not believe that we just fade to black and thats it so the rest of your post I will ignore.
see what i mean.. your answeres are short sighted.. like i said a few posts up.. why are WE here.. why is MANKIND here??? how did WE (MANKIND) get here????? a big bang? please dont tell me a big bang.. if thats your answer. dont even waste your key strokes. -
How are they short sighted? You are here the same way I am here. We are here; mankind is here because of past actions, causes and conditions that shaped our current existence.
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Roots Oceanic wrote: »How are they short sighted? You are here the same way I am here. We are here; mankind is here because of past actions, causes and conditions that shaped our current existence.
lol again...
so your a believer in evolution.. so what did we evolve from.. some species of the ape family.. and what did they evolve from.. and so on and so forth.. then go back to the very 1st species (we are just using your logic here.. or illogics.. ) go back to the very 1st species.. now how did that VERY 1ST species get here...... and everything else in this world... universe.. dont you find it amazing how everything in the universe is connected.. kind of like how everything in this world is connected.. we all need everything in the world.. like it was meant for us to live here.. kinda crazy right? kind of like we were put here for a reason... and whoever put us here gave us everything we needed to survive and grow as people.. not creatures.. but as people. -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? .Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? .
I'm not the person that describes the un-physical. Theists generally do that so those questions are really for you to answer.
If everything we talk about exists in relation to something else, ? must exist in the same way. If he does not, how are we to be aware of his existence? -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »How are they short sighted? You are here the same way I am here. We are here; mankind is here because of past actions, causes and conditions that shaped our current existence.
But what caused these current conditions? do you believe that the universe and everything in it always existed? if you do that is called the solid state universe theory and that theory has been proven wrong by science. -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? .Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? .
I'm not the person that describes the un-physical. Theists generally do that so those questions are really for you to answer.
If everything we talk about exists in relation to something else, ? must exist in the same way. If he does not, how are we to be aware of his existence?
? is every thing.. ? is every where.. ? is in everybody.. and at the same time, ? is on his thrown.. you cant go nowhere to escape ? .. you cant hide.. ? is there..
the reason you dont believe that is because you cant grasp the concept of a power being capable of doing such. i know, its crazy what a amazing ? we have.. you should really get to know Him. you will be suprised in the ways you will change and how life will change, and how everything will look different living in the light and not with the lights off. -
This is how I see you two are babes in christ, the least you could have said was "well is there any proof for the mind? can science locate this thing we refer to as 'the mind'?"No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? . -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? .Roots Oceanic wrote: »So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.
The difference between ? and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with ? .
Religion has made the attempt to describe ? enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described ? 's reactions to man and the universe but not ? itself, anything else you can put in a box but not ? .
I'm not the person that describes the un-physical. Theists generally do that so those questions are really for you to answer.
If everything we talk about exists in relation to something else, ? must exist in the same way. If he does not, how are we to be aware of his existence?
No one can describe the un-physical hence no one can describe ? in the way we can describe a unicorn. ? is not a thing so he does not exist in relation to anything else so we cannot talk about him like we can anything else, it is impossible. We don't really talk about ? what we talk about is mankinds reactions to what we perceive of him. He exist on the power of himself. EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT EXIST IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD HAS A RELATION TO SOME THING ELSE BUT ? IS BEYOND THIS WORLD. -
Roots Oceanic wrote: »How are they short sighted? You are here the same way I am here. We are here; mankind is here because of past actions, causes and conditions that shaped our current existence.
lol again...
so your a believer in evolution.. so what did we evolve from.. some species of the ape family.. and what did they evolve from.. and so on and so forth.. then go back to the very 1st species (we are just using your logic here.. or illogics.. ) go back to the very 1st species.. now how did that VERY 1ST species get here...... and everything else in this world... universe.. dont you find it amazing how everything in the universe is connected.. kind of like how everything in this world is connected.. we all need everything in the world.. like it was meant for us to live here.. kinda crazy right? kind of like we were put here for a reason... and whoever put us here gave us everything we needed to survive and grow as people.. not creatures.. but as people.
Well I do believe in evolution but I also believe that life has always existed in some form or another. However, in our current world system, to prevent confusion, we can compare consciousness to a fire. It is simply an effect, caused by the right conditions.
I do not believe that the universe was created for our benefit. On the contrary, we evolved from its being. I do agree with you, though about everything being connected. That is why we must live in harmony with nature.
To put it simply, I do not believe in a first cause. Everything is here or has been here or will be here because of something else. It is an infinite chain of causes and effects.
