Tupac - 'Troublesome 96' Appreciation thread!!! Smh@ how slept on he is lyrically, just smh...
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in The Reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX79pwyBIIMenacin' methods label me a lethal weapon
Making ? die witnessin' breathless imperfections
Can you picture my specific plan
To be the man in this wicked land,underhanded hits are planned
Scams are plotted over grams and rocks
[song version 1:] Undercover agents die by the random shots
[song version 2:] Outlaws ? die by the random shots
We all die in the end, so revenge we swore
I was all about my ends, ? friends and foes
Me, a born leader, never leave the block without my heata
Got me a dog and named her my ? ? eata
What could they do to me that little brat
? them ? shot me and still terrified, I'll get their ass
How can I show you how I feel inside
We outlawz motherfuckas can't ? my pride
? talk a lot of ? but that's after I'm gone
Cause they fear me in physical form let it be known
I'm troublesome
[Chorus (spoken):]
Tra la la la la la all ya ? die [several times]
Troublesome ? , outlaw, put it down to the fullest, spittin rhymes and bullets, haha.
We troublesome, yall know what time it is, call the punk police, they cant stop us, ? run the streets
Trouble ?
Gutter ways my mentality is ghetto
We're guerrillas in this criminal war, we all rebels
Death before dishonor bet on bomb on them first ? do
We came for murder, pullin' up in a herse
Westside was the war cry bustin' all freely screaming ?
All ya'll ? in Swahili
Pistol packin' fresh out of jail, I ain't goin' back
Release me to care of my heartless strap
Say my name three times like Candyman
Bet I roll on your ass like an avalance
A soul survivor, learned to get high and pull drive bys
Murder my foes, can't control my nine
Hearin' thoughts of my enemies pleadin' please
Busta ass motherfuckas tried to flee
Picture me letting this chump survive
Redin' up on his ass when I'm doped and died
Cause I'm troublesome
[Chorus (spoken):]
Young, strapped, and I dont give a ? , I'm hopeless.
I live a thuglife losing my focus, baby.
I'm troublesome, haha Badboy killer, there is no one realer, what you saw was the rough rugged and raw.
Outlaw. Outlaw.
Murder murder my mind states ? ain't change since my last rhyme
The crime rate ain't decline
? bustin' shots like they lost their mind
Like twenty-five to life never crossed their mind
Tell me young ? never learned a thang
Dead at thirteen cause he yearned to bang
Sent a lot of flowers, but how can I cry
Try to warn a little ? either stop or die
Mercy is for the weak when I speak I scream
Afraid to sleep in havin' of crazy dreams
Vivid pictures of my enemies and family times
? to forgive me cause it's wrong but I plan to die
Either take me in heaven and understand I was a G'
Did the best I could, raised in insanity
Or send me to hell cause I ain't beggin' for my life
Ain't nothing worse than this cursed ass hopeless life
I'm troublesome
Foh, your fav rapper ain't ? wit this ? !!!!
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I still cant understand how some people dont like Tupac lol, they must be phony muthafuckas.
2Pac - Who Do You Believe In Lyrics
http://youtu.be/JMlaMecjDPg
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How this trend of "pac isnt lyrical" I dont know how came to be here in IC
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One of my favorite Pac songs.
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Undergroundraplegend wrote: »How this trend of "pac isnt lyrical" I dont know how came to be here in IC
Because he wasn't spittin like this:
The club scene is a regular hangout spot for unclean
women in tight jeans frontin like queens
Chickenheads who should be home takin care of their eggs
Instead, they always in the club flirtin with men
No I don't care about no hype-no-holic ? ; all I'm concerned with
is who's bringin they burners in to burn ?
While security practice is mediocre proportions
? is still stealthily sneakin they firearms in
Often, ? be acting like they're marksmen
but couldn't hit a stationary object
So how you gonna hit a movin target? Especially if you alcoholic
The party was coconuts until you spoiled it
? what's goin on?
or this
[Canibus]
Now if a ? sucks yo' ? , for five dollars per square inch
and gets forty dollars, includin a five dollar tip
How big was the ? she just sucked? (Say what?)
Say how big was the ? she just sucked? (What?)
If you a ? with a watch, that's iced out
with enough rocks to make the hottest room temperature drop
How long will it take for you to get robbed? (Say what?)
How long will it be before you get robbed? (What?)
Now if your song played on the radio for the first time
four days ago, now the ? is rotational
Who got paid off to play it? (I ain't scared to say it)
Say who the ? got paid off to play it? (I ain't scared to say ? )
If you sign a recordin deal for less than a quarter mill'
and your advance is a hundred-thousand dollar automobile
I know the vehicle was probably beautiful (Yeah it's tight)
But did you ask your lawyer if it was recoupable?
It's nigganometry.. [echoes]
SMH!!! Now read the ish and compare the substance of it, no comparison!!!
This is the I.c's definition of being lyrical, foh! -
Tupac Shakur & Snoop Dogg - If Theres A Cure (OG Unheard Verses)
http://youtu.be/rh0K_Nd1NFA -
On top of the track being classic, Troublesome 96 just sounds like one of those records Pac wrote real quick. GOAT.
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yea this ? goes
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What ? mean when they say Pac ain't that lyrical isn't that he couldn't rap. They saying that in terms of lyrics, there were FAR better lyricists. That doesn't mean he didn't have dope lyrics. This track is proof of that. But his ? wasn't really complicated. What you see is what you get.
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Pac wasn't lyrical. He just had good subject matter and charisma
He made ? that sound basic nice.
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Its not what you say, it's how you say it.
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? talk a lot of ? but that's after I'm gone
Cause they fear me in physical form
Real ? ? . Hilarity how the king of NY, was done "vacationing"
After the thugged one died.
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"I'm slaughter his whole bloodline til' it's thinner than water."
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I still cant understand how some people dont like Tupac lol, they must be phony muthafuckas.
2Pac - Who Do You Believe In Lyricshttp://youtu.be/JMlaMecjDPg
So everybody has to like Pac and if they don't they phony, FOH. Thats why it's choices out here homie, you like what you like
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mryounggun wrote: »What ? mean when they say Pac ain't that lyrical isn't that he couldn't rap. They saying that in terms of lyrics, there were FAR better lyricists. That doesn't mean he didn't have dope lyrics. This track is proof of that. But his ? wasn't really complicated. What you see is what you get.
His lyrics were deep, they hit home...that Cannibus ? i posted proved essentially what yall try to describe as 'lyrical' and that ? is not 'far' better lyrics, hell nah...How can something be more lyrical, when there ain't no real depth and substance behind the words? smh... -
Pac wasn't lyrical. He just had good subject matter and charisma
He made ? that sound basic nice.
you a joke...not because he didn't use simple ass metaphors like "talk slick get yo neck slit.." and ? ...lyrical also has to do with the way you put your words together its a million ways you can say something...if an artiste makes you think (and in a positive way) not think like why the ? is he rhyming..."Westside was the war cry bustin' all freely screaming ?
All ya'll ? in Swahili" he wasn't the most Lyrical, but don't say he wasn't...
Great Post btw @international...troublesome '96 was and is my ? ...GREAT record... -
This tune makes me wanna go outside and hit a guy in the head with brass knuckles repeatedly. I'm troublesome.
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I don't know what lyrical is, maybe it's just using big words like metaphysics and ? like that but this ? right here my ? ... this ? slap.
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mryounggun wrote: »What ? mean when they say Pac ain't that lyrical isn't that he couldn't rap. They saying that in terms of lyrics, there were FAR better lyricists. That doesn't mean he didn't have dope lyrics. This track is proof of that. But his ? wasn't really complicated. What you see is what you get.
His lyrics are intentionally straightforward, from the heart and that's what make them real. They don't have to be complicated. You have more technical lyricists in the game, but they aren't necessarily better. It's just a different style of writing a poem.
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La la, la la, all you ? die..
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cainvelasquez wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »What ? mean when they say Pac ain't that lyrical isn't that he couldn't rap. They saying that in terms of lyrics, there were FAR better lyricists. That doesn't mean he didn't have dope lyrics. This track is proof of that. But his ? wasn't really complicated. What you see is what you get.
His lyrics are intentionally straightforward, from the heart and that's what make them real. They don't have to be complicated. You have more technical lyricists in the game, but they aren't necessarily better. It's just a different style of writing a poem.
Agreed. Not knocking Pac. Bun B said some real ? one time and it applies to Pac 100%. 'Sometimes you don't wanna hear a ? do tricks on the microphone. Sometimes you just wanna hear the truth.'. But there were cats who were MUCH better technical lyricists. Doesn't make them better rappers. Just better lyricists.
Why do ? start tripping when people say that?
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international wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »What ? mean when they say Pac ain't that lyrical isn't that he couldn't rap. They saying that in terms of lyrics, there were FAR better lyricists. That doesn't mean he didn't have dope lyrics. This track is proof of that. But his ? wasn't really complicated. What you see is what you get.
His lyrics were deep, they hit home...that Cannibus ? i posted proved essentially what yall try to describe as 'lyrical' and that ? is not 'far' better lyrics, hell nah...How can something be more lyrical, when there ain't no real depth and substance behind the words? smh...
SMH. You not listening, son. -
Murder murder my mind states ? ain't change since my last rhyme
The crime rate ain't decline
? bustin' shots like they lost their mind
Like twenty-five to life never crossed their mind
Tell me young ? never learned a thang
Dead at thirteen cause he yearned to bang
Sent a lot of flowers, but how can I cry
Try to warn a little ? either stop or die
Mercy is for the weak when I speak I scream
Afraid to sleep in havin' of crazy dreams
Vivid pictures of my enemies and family times
? to forgive me cause it's wrong but I plan to die
Either take me in heaven and understand I was a G'
Did the best I could, raised in insanity
Or send me to hell cause I ain't beggin' for my life
Ain't nothing worse than this cursed ass hopeless life
I'm troublesome
Always ? with this verse heavy... -
I like Pac he is in my top 10.
I'm still upset on his untimely death.
Dude put out great music.
He ain't lyricist but a great artist -
mryounggun wrote: »cainvelasquez wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »What ? mean when they say Pac ain't that lyrical isn't that he couldn't rap. They saying that in terms of lyrics, there were FAR better lyricists. That doesn't mean he didn't have dope lyrics. This track is proof of that. But his ? wasn't really complicated. What you see is what you get.
His lyrics are intentionally straightforward, from the heart and that's what make them real. They don't have to be complicated. You have more technical lyricists in the game, but they aren't necessarily better. It's just a different style of writing a poem.
Agreed. Not knocking Pac. Bun B said some real ? one time and it applies to Pac 100%. 'Sometimes you don't wanna hear a ? do tricks on the microphone. Sometimes you just wanna hear the truth.'. But there were cats who were MUCH better technical lyricists. Doesn't make them better rappers. Just better lyricists.
Why do ? start tripping when people say that?
Cuz technical in that sense that yall mean, does not make them better lyricists, simply lyricists with other purpose...
Menacin' methods label me a lethal weapon
Making ? die witnessin' breathless imperfections
Can you picture my specific plan
To be the man in this wicked land, underhanded hits are planned
^^^you don't think he pulled more than a few tricks on that track alone? and he executed whilst still having some depth, substance and a purpose.
Where is the skill in just rhyming long and technical words or using scientific terminology (or whatever the field) without any sense of direction, and not really standing for nothing, having no depth or message? ? makes them even weaker imo. -
Of course theres better lyricist then him then like nas rakim, but to say he wasnt lyrical because he wasnt on there fied is ? plus agreed with international on this
