What is the happy medium for new NY hiphop artists?
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Gen. Stasia wrote: »Just do what u feel like doing. Ppl complain about NY too much. And how do u expect the new generation NOT to be influenced by the South that's what we grew up on sadly.
The Underachievers
Flatbush Zombies
Dyme-A-Duzin
Planet Fli
Vinny Cha$e
Action Bronson
Are all doing them if u complaining about NY Hip Hop or Rap in general in 2013 u need to turn off the damn radio
SMH apparently you don't understand what i mean, when i say NY i mean artist who can take the flag on the MAINSTREAM level like how Big, Nas and Jay did.
Mainstream is overrated tho. When I can equally get music elsewhere. But all the Artist I named (Minus Dyme-a-duzin and Planet Fli) has millions of REAL veiws so the ppl checking for them honestly can careless.
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This dude always talking about Mainstream, Popular ? .
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No one ever seems to mention Homeboy Sandman when talking about NY. Why is that?
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wAXed_poetic wrote: »No one ever seems to mention Homeboy Sandman when talking about NY. Why is that?
Never heard of him what's some of his songs? -
wAXed_poetic wrote: »No one ever seems to mention Homeboy Sandman when talking about NY. Why is that?
because he's older and very underground. -
And yeah is older. Does that make people wanna not mess with his music you think? [ -
This dude always talking about Mainstream, Popular ? .
The same way your musky camo jacket ass is always talking about underground.
Name me one underground rapper who has ever transcended hiphop culture, i bet you cant. All the rappers who are remembered have all went mainstream at some level, be it Pac, Big, Jay, Wu, Public Enemy, Eminem,etc.
People don't give a ? about no Sage Francis and them other ''lyrical, spiritual'' ? . -
Gen. Stasia wrote: »Gen. Stasia wrote: »Just do what u feel like doing. Ppl complain about NY too much. And how do u expect the new generation NOT to be influenced by the South that's what we grew up on sadly.
The Underachievers
Flatbush Zombies
Dyme-A-Duzin
Planet Fli
Vinny Cha$e
Action Bronson
Are all doing them if u complaining about NY Hip Hop or Rap in general in 2013 u need to turn off the damn radio
SMH apparently you don't understand what i mean, when i say NY i mean artist who can take the flag on the MAINSTREAM level like how Big, Nas and Jay did.
Mainstream is overrated tho. When I can equally get music elsewhere. But all the Artist I named (Minus Dyme-a-duzin and Planet Fli) has millions of REAL veiws so the ppl checking for them honestly can careless.
LOL at views, like that means ? . Joe Buddens has views and followers, doesn't mean ? . -
? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT. -
wAXed_poetic wrote: »
And yeah is older. Does that make people wanna not mess with his music you think? [
well the youth have always defined whats hot in this culture but he's happy being underground so he's never going to have much impact -
? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.
What side, you do realize you can be a good mc and still be mainstream right. Not every underground rapper is nice and not every mainstream rapper is wack.
To me the truly great rappers started undergound butwalk the mainstream line..ie Pac, Jay, Nas, Em, Big,etc.They have something that most underground rappers lack, and that's polish and songwriting ability. -
? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.
What side, you do realize you can be a good mc and still be mainstream right. Not every underground rapper is nice and not every mainstream rapper is wack.
To me the truly great rappers started undergound butwalk the mainstream line..ie Pac, Jay, Nas, Em, Big,etc.They have something that most underground rappers lack, and that's polish and songwriting ability.
Look at Budden and Styles P they have good songwriting ability and have good source of lyricism.
They're not selling out. Music can be good whether underground and mainstream.
You have this absolute certainty that underground ? are wack, FOH. -
? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.
What side, you do realize you can be a good mc and still be mainstream right. Not every underground rapper is nice and not every mainstream rapper is wack.
To me the truly great rappers started undergound butwalk the mainstream line..ie Pac, Jay, Nas, Em, Big,etc.They have something that most underground rappers lack, and that's polish and songwriting ability.
Now, you're just trolling.
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? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.
What side, you do realize you can be a good mc and still be mainstream right. Not every underground rapper is nice and not every mainstream rapper is wack.
To me the truly great rappers started undergound butwalk the mainstream line..ie Pac, Jay, Nas, Em, Big,etc.They have something that most underground rappers lack, and that's polish and songwriting ability.
Look at Budden and Styles P they have good songwriting ability and have good source of lyricism.
They're not selling out. Music can be good whether underground and mainstream.
You have this absolute certainty that underground ? are wack, FOH.
LOL at Budden and Styles, really?
Well i do agree they do have that, but clearly neither one of them ? have that it factor.
Certain rappers lack certain it factor, i know you back packers don't want to admit it. A ? like Mos Def, Talib,etc can make a song about black power and it will fall on deaf ears, a ? like Pac would touch on the same subject matter and it would translate. Why is that, Pac had a it factor, a star quality that made his music translate.
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? an "it" factor, we not discussing runway models ? .. it takes more than "good songwriting skills" to cross over into the mainstream..
And who's to say a few of those rappers mentioned earlier won't blow?.. not too long ago you said Kendrick wasn't gonna blow..
I'm sure ? seen Jay rhyming with Original Flavor in 94 and didn't think he would blow years later.. -
Ha, i never said Kendrick wasn't going to blow. post the quote where i said that!
LOL at ? it factor, i bet you know who Bob Marley is and i bet you don't know who Bunny Wailer is. I bet you know who Nas is and i bet the average person doesn't know who AZ is, etc.
It factors is what seperates superstars from good artist. -
? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.? damn. You and this mainstream fetish has to stop
And at the same time you hate ? like ASAP Rock and French Montana
PICK A SIDE DAMMIT.
What side, you do realize you can be a good mc and still be mainstream right. Not every underground rapper is nice and not every mainstream rapper is wack.
To me the truly great rappers started undergound butwalk the mainstream line..ie Pac, Jay, Nas, Em, Big,etc.They have something that most underground rappers lack, and that's polish and songwriting ability.
Look at Budden and Styles P they have good songwriting ability and have good source of lyricism.
They're not selling out. Music can be good whether underground and mainstream.
You have this absolute certainty that underground ? are wack, FOH.
LOL at Budden and Styles, really?
Well i do agree they do have that, but clearly neither one of them ? have that it factor.
Certain rappers lack certain it factor, i know you back packers don't want to admit it. A ? like Mos Def, Talib,etc can make a song about black power and it will fall on deaf ears, a ? like Pac would touch on the same subject matter and it would translate. Why is that, Pac had a it factor, a star quality that made his music translate.
Because most of those artists have that breakthrough song.
Like I remember back in December '95 when Pac had the interview with Bill Belamy
His first concert didn't have that many folks but after that notable song he was known.
Like why do you care for the causals? You're a hip hop head like the rest of us.
It's funny you run to their side, why?? I don't give a ? if the casual don't know their history
Quality isn't determine on democracy, you know that. -
I'm a music fan, i'm not a hiphop head. I like to think my taste in music is broader than what ''hiphop head'' entails.
I'm not one of those dudes who think everything mainstream is wack and everything underground is great. I think Future is just as wack as Sage Francis. -
Ha, i never said Kendrick wasn't going to blow. post the quote where i said that!
LOL at ? it factor, i bet you know who Bob Marley is and i bet you don't know who Bunny Wailer is. I bet you know who Nas is and i bet the average person doesn't know who AZ is, etc.
It factors is what seperates superstars from good artist.
You a lie boa.
Like you ain't post this.usmarin3 wrote: »
Pure ? hyperbole, west coast aint ? back. I ? with K Dot but the ? gonna put out his album and it more than likely won't do ? and he'll end up having a career like Ras Kass where is praised critically but don't sell. -
@usmarin3
why are you obsessed with a rap "superstar" from NY?
you're not from NY, or even the metro area....or even the Northeast. you keep talking about a "sound" but now you're talking about "it" factors and superstars. whats your motive in this thread or whats your question? -
I'm a music fan, i'm not a hiphop head. I like to think my taste in music is broader than what ''hiphop head'' entails.
I'm not one of those dudes who think everything mainstream is wack and everything underground is great. I think Future is just as wack as Sage Francis.
? , you listen to folks like Mac Dre, MC Eiht, ? Pusha T, Masta Ace
You have Kane in your top 10 (shockingly) and you're saying you're not a head??
You know just as much as us but you do this democracy ? with music and etc.
I didn't say mainstream is wack but it is bad for the most today, tho. -
I'm a music fan, i'm not a hiphop head. I like to think my taste in music is broader than what ''hiphop head'' entails.
I'm not one of those dudes who think everything mainstream is wack and everything underground is great. I think Future is just as wack as Sage Francis.
? , you listen to folks like Mac Dre, MC Eiht, ? Pusha T, Masta Ace
You have Kane in your top 10 (shockingly) and you're saying you're not a head??
You know just as much as us but you do this democracy ? with music and etc.
I didn't say mainstream is wack but it is bad for the most today, tho.
I listen to Pusha and Masta Ace, them other ? not!
I'm not a head in the traditional elitist, all things underground is great and mainstream is wack sense.
Mainstream is no more wack than underground is. For wack these mainstream ? lack in lyrics, content,etc these underground ? lack in beat selection, hooks, flow,etc.
Like i continue to say, the truly great rappers walk the line of mainstream and underground. -
Ha, i never said Kendrick wasn't going to blow. post the quote where i said that!
LOL at ? it factor, i bet you know who Bob Marley is and i bet you don't know who Bunny Wailer is. I bet you know who Nas is and i bet the average person doesn't know who AZ is, etc.
It factors is what seperates superstars from good artist.
You a lie boa.
Like you ain't post this.usmarin3 wrote: »
Pure ? hyperbole, west coast aint ? back. I ? with K Dot but the ? gonna put out his album and it more than likely won't do ? and he'll end up having a career like Ras Kass where is praised critically but don't sell.
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Ha, i never said Kendrick wasn't going to blow. post the quote where i said that!
LOL at ? it factor, i bet you know who Bob Marley is and i bet you don't know who Bunny Wailer is. I bet you know who Nas is and i bet the average person doesn't know who AZ is, etc.
It factors is what seperates superstars from good artist.
But was Nas a superstar compared to AZ in 94-95?.. didn't AZ have singles from Doe or Die that charted?..
And where the hell is Chingy at?.. I'm sure he had this "it" factor you're referring to.. -
I'm a music fan, i'm not a hiphop head. I like to think my taste in music is broader than what ''hiphop head'' entails.
I'm not one of those dudes who think everything mainstream is wack and everything underground is great. I think Future is just as wack as Sage Francis.
? , you listen to folks like Mac Dre, MC Eiht, ? Pusha T, Masta Ace
You have Kane in your top 10 (shockingly) and you're saying you're not a head??
You know just as much as us but you do this democracy ? with music and etc.
I didn't say mainstream is wack but it is bad for the most today, tho.
I listen to Pusha and Masta Ace, them other ? not!
I'm not a head in the traditional elitist, all things underground is great and mainstream is wack sense.
Mainstream is no more wack than underground is. For wack these mainstream ? lack in lyrics, content,etc these underground ? lack in beat selection, hooks, flow,etc.
Like i continue to say, the truly great rappers walk the line of mainstream and underground.
But that's only a few people who break those barrier.
And even if they do break those barrier people always have some excuse
Jay: Annie Sample
B.I.G.: Signing to Puff's label
Pac: Shooting cops and living what he rapped about
Nas: Lauryn Hill Collaborations, Jay-Z revitalizing his career
Em: Signing with Dr. Dre and most of his fanbase are white.
You see what I did there???
