Official 2013-14 A.D. Chicago Bulls Thread

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  • Tommy bilfiger
    Tommy bilfiger Members Posts: 22,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bruuuuhhhhh, u talm bout some trade d-rose?? switch to the blackhawks bruh

    Funny how you don't have a good argument. Why should they keep the Carmelo Anthony of point guards... Derrick Rose is a better version of john wall. It's funny how you don't point out how I'm wrong.

    Lmao this boy in a ZONE.You made some valid points then you go off the deep end but I understand what you're saying
  • T. Sanford
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    Derrick rose makes this team worse. Like always he forces everything and shows you a few highlights. He better not be handed the MVP again we know he didn't deserve his first.

    They might argue that Queen James shouldve won but DRose deserved the MVP that year, he did more with less talent, ? did his thing & elevated his team to 1st in the eastern conference

    Yet when he got injured that season his team still had a winning record without him. You guys forget how good his team is every time he's not playing. His team is always better than he allows them to be when he's playing.

    & how far did they go without him?
    They got to Miami and lost which is the exact same thing that would happen with Rose....

    but if they was better without Rose then they wouldve beat Miami, right?
  • BlackxChild
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    T. Sanford wrote: »
    T. Sanford wrote: »
    T. Sanford wrote: »
    Derrick rose makes this team worse. Like always he forces everything and shows you a few highlights. He better not be handed the MVP again we know he didn't deserve his first.

    They might argue that Queen James shouldve won but DRose deserved the MVP that year, he did more with less talent, ? did his thing & elevated his team to 1st in the eastern conference

    Yet when he got injured that season his team still had a winning record without him. You guys forget how good his team is every time he's not playing. His team is always better than he allows them to be when he's playing.

    & how far did they go without him?
    They got to Miami and lost which is the exact same thing that would happen with Rose....

    but if they was better without Rose then they wouldve beat Miami, right?

    They aren't beating Miami period is the point so you trade Rose... You might actually get the Rockets to fall for a dumb trade and could possibly get harden. By the way every team in the East got better that's why Chicagos record fell some.

  • ckfree
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    According to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:

    Tom Thibodeau is one of the NBA’s top coaches, but when it comes to managing minutes of his top players, he is going to get some help. Even if he doesn’t want it. The Bulls’ front office has been taking an active role in telling Thibodeau how he’ll dispense minutes to Joakim Noah, among others. And these are two parties that have had their differences in the past.


    bleacherreport.com/articles/1836026-report-chicago-bulls-front-office-trying-to-influence-tom-thibodeaus-rotation

    from the same guy who found out thibs hadnt signed his extension last year

    no way in hell thibs makes it to the end of his contract without being fired or quitting all because nationally thibs gets praised rather than the front office for bringing in the right players

    forman_090526.jpg

    sickening

    they give a ? about the fans as much as kanye thought george bush gave a ? about black people
  • smittysmith
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    Time for Taj to move into the starting lineup. Also, want to see Butler's role increase on the offensive end. If he cant be effective as a scorer then we're definitely fighting a losing battle.
  • Chi-Town Bully
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    Time for Taj to move into the starting lineup. Also, want to see Butler's role increase on the offensive end. If he cant be effective as a scorer then we're definitely fighting a losing battle.

    Not yet, ? been killing to start the season. The Bulls just be going away from him when he cooking
  • soul rattler
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    There are certain facts of life that are undeniable. If Carlos ? is the best player on the floor, the Bulls will lose the game. It never fails. Rose, Deng, Taj, or Noah will HAVE to outperform ? if they want to win.
    ckfree wrote: »
    According to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:

    Tom Thibodeau is one of the NBA’s top coaches, but when it comes to managing minutes of his top players, he is going to get some help. Even if he doesn’t want it. The Bulls’ front office has been taking an active role in telling Thibodeau how he’ll dispense minutes to Joakim Noah, among others. And these are two parties that have had their differences in the past.


    bleacherreport.com/articles/1836026-report-chicago-bulls-front-office-trying-to-influence-tom-thibodeaus-rotation

    from the same guy who found out thibs hadnt signed his extension last year

    no way in hell thibs makes it to the end of his contract without being fired or quitting all because nationally thibs gets praised rather than the front office for bringing in the right players

    forman_090526.jpg

    sickening

    they give a ? about the fans as much as kanye thought george bush gave a ? about black people

    ? the front office. A coach of Thib's calibur is extremely rare. There's Greg Popavich, Doc Rivers, and Tom Thibideou. That is the elite of NBA coaches. If Forman and Co. do anything to jeoporidze that, then there's no reason to be a Bulls fan, Rose or no Rose. Until they bring in better talent, better scorers, and more mature players, Chicago is looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit everytime.

    Thibs is doing what he can with the little scoring talent that he has. Telling him to limit starters' minutes is telling him to settle for a 4th or 5th seed if not worse.
  • ckfree
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    There are certain facts of life that are undeniable. If Carlos ? is the best player on the floor, the Bulls will lose the game. It never fails. Rose, Deng, Taj, or Noah will HAVE to outperform ? if they want to win.
    ckfree wrote: »
    According to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:

    Tom Thibodeau is one of the NBA’s top coaches, but when it comes to managing minutes of his top players, he is going to get some help. Even if he doesn’t want it. The Bulls’ front office has been taking an active role in telling Thibodeau how he’ll dispense minutes to Joakim Noah, among others. And these are two parties that have had their differences in the past.


    bleacherreport.com/articles/1836026-report-chicago-bulls-front-office-trying-to-influence-tom-thibodeaus-rotation

    from the same guy who found out thibs hadnt signed his extension last year

    no way in hell thibs makes it to the end of his contract without being fired or quitting all because nationally thibs gets praised rather than the front office for bringing in the right players

    forman_090526.jpg

    sickening

    they give a ? about the fans as much as kanye thought george bush gave a ? about black people

    ? the front office. A coach of Thib's calibur is extremely rare. There's Greg Popavich, Doc Rivers, and Tom Thibideou. That is the elite of NBA coaches. If Forman and Co. do anything to jeoporidze that, then there's no reason to be a Bulls fan, Rose or no Rose. Until they bring in better talent, better scorers, and more mature players, Chicago is looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit everytime.

    Thibs is doing what he can with the little scoring talent that he has. Telling him to limit starters' minutes is telling him to settle for a 4th or 5th seed if not worse.


    word i do agree thibs run his players to the ground youve brought up good points though but there was no excuse to let ron adams go to boston and i dont know if ron ever made a difference but i do know thibs and derrick loved the guy and thats all that should matter rose and thibs are the bulls most important assets

    they dont have the ? to fire him but no doubt theyre doing that passive agresssive ? to irk thibs and make him quit

    it seems to be the standard operating procedure with anything jerry reinsdorf has his hand in

    krause did it with the bulls in the 90s
    kenny did it with ozzie
    and now garpax is at it

    these coaches/managers get you championships and all reinsdorf and his henchmen do is chase them out of town
  • ckfree
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    the pacers have looked amazing but they did play the cavs magic and pelicans

    so tomorrow game can either go really well or really bad
  • T. Sanford
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    Bulls need more offense. That's not the coach fault. GM get on your job & give Rose some offense to help
  • BlackxChild
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    There are certain facts of life that are undeniable. If Carlos ? is the best player on the floor, the Bulls will lose the game. It never fails. Rose, Deng, Taj, or Noah will HAVE to outperform ? if they want to win.
    ckfree wrote: »
    According to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:

    Tom Thibodeau is one of the NBA’s top coaches, but when it comes to managing minutes of his top players, he is going to get some help. Even if he doesn’t want it. The Bulls’ front office has been taking an active role in telling Thibodeau how he’ll dispense minutes to Joakim Noah, among others. And these are two parties that have had their differences in the past.


    bleacherreport.com/articles/1836026-report-chicago-bulls-front-office-trying-to-influence-tom-thibodeaus-rotation

    from the same guy who found out thibs hadnt signed his extension last year

    no way in hell thibs makes it to the end of his contract without being fired or quitting all because nationally thibs gets praised rather than the front office for bringing in the right players

    forman_090526.jpg

    sickening

    they give a ? about the fans as much as kanye thought george bush gave a ? about black people

    ? the front office. A coach of Thib's calibur is extremely rare. There's Greg Popavich, Doc Rivers, and Tom Thibideou. That is the elite of NBA coaches. If Forman and Co. do anything to jeoporidze that, then there's no reason to be a Bulls fan, Rose or no Rose. Until they bring in better talent, better scorers, and more mature players, Chicago is looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit everytime.

    Thibs is doing what he can with the little scoring talent that he has. Telling him to limit starters' minutes is telling him to settle for a 4th or 5th seed if not worse.
    Bulls have enough players the problem is Derrick Rose he doesn't make his teammates better. They actually have one of the better rosters. Trade Derrick Rose if you want your team to go to the next level. Trade him for the #1 pick and get Wiggins and you'll be better off.
  • Chi-Town Bully
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    ^Rose not being traded so you need to get off that and Wiggins aint better than Rose
  • BlackxChild
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    ^Rose not being traded so you need to get off that and Wiggins aint better than Rose
    Westbrook>>>Rose
  • Chi-Town Bully
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    ^Rose not being traded so you need to get off that and Wiggins aint better than Rose
    Westbrook>>>Rose

    I agree
  • ckfree
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    i guess the rumors about derrick girl leaving him for ? stippers is true

    theres no other way to explain it because he looks fine physically and was balling out in the pre season and even though it was pre season he wasnt shooting like hes cockeyed and looking all special ed drooling on the court

    lord knows how many women wanna ? you if youre famous like thousands so even if he did cheat on her 14 times thats not even bad hes shooting likes hes kobe thats a good percentage right there

    understand that mieka
  • ckfree
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    lots of good teams this year are losing games one wouldnt expect

    its early

    just wish they would look good while losing

    cant even do that smh
  • T. Sanford
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    There are certain facts of life that are undeniable. If Carlos ? is the best player on the floor, the Bulls will lose the game. It never fails. Rose, Deng, Taj, or Noah will HAVE to outperform ? if they want to win.
    ckfree wrote: »
    According to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:

    Tom Thibodeau is one of the NBA’s top coaches, but when it comes to managing minutes of his top players, he is going to get some help. Even if he doesn’t want it. The Bulls’ front office has been taking an active role in telling Thibodeau how he’ll dispense minutes to Joakim Noah, among others. And these are two parties that have had their differences in the past.


    bleacherreport.com/articles/1836026-report-chicago-bulls-front-office-trying-to-influence-tom-thibodeaus-rotation

    from the same guy who found out thibs hadnt signed his extension last year

    no way in hell thibs makes it to the end of his contract without being fired or quitting all because nationally thibs gets praised rather than the front office for bringing in the right players

    forman_090526.jpg

    sickening

    they give a ? about the fans as much as kanye thought george bush gave a ? about black people

    ? the front office. A coach of Thib's calibur is extremely rare. There's Greg Popavich, Doc Rivers, and Tom Thibideou. That is the elite of NBA coaches. If Forman and Co. do anything to jeoporidze that, then there's no reason to be a Bulls fan, Rose or no Rose. Until they bring in better talent, better scorers, and more mature players, Chicago is looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit everytime.

    Thibs is doing what he can with the little scoring talent that he has. Telling him to limit starters' minutes is telling him to settle for a 4th or 5th seed if not worse.
    Bulls have enough players the problem is Derrick Rose he doesn't make his teammates better. They actually have one of the better rosters. Trade Derrick Rose if you want your team to go to the next level. Trade him for the #1 pick and get Wiggins and you'll be better off.

    So if Rose have to sit out some games, then who on the bulls can create their own shots? Who will carry the offensive load?
  • BlackxChild
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    T. Sanford wrote: »
    There are certain facts of life that are undeniable. If Carlos ? is the best player on the floor, the Bulls will lose the game. It never fails. Rose, Deng, Taj, or Noah will HAVE to outperform ? if they want to win.
    ckfree wrote: »
    According to Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:

    Tom Thibodeau is one of the NBA’s top coaches, but when it comes to managing minutes of his top players, he is going to get some help. Even if he doesn’t want it. The Bulls’ front office has been taking an active role in telling Thibodeau how he’ll dispense minutes to Joakim Noah, among others. And these are two parties that have had their differences in the past.


    bleacherreport.com/articles/1836026-report-chicago-bulls-front-office-trying-to-influence-tom-thibodeaus-rotation

    from the same guy who found out thibs hadnt signed his extension last year

    no way in hell thibs makes it to the end of his contract without being fired or quitting all because nationally thibs gets praised rather than the front office for bringing in the right players

    forman_090526.jpg

    sickening

    they give a ? about the fans as much as kanye thought george bush gave a ? about black people

    ? the front office. A coach of Thib's calibur is extremely rare. There's Greg Popavich, Doc Rivers, and Tom Thibideou. That is the elite of NBA coaches. If Forman and Co. do anything to jeoporidze that, then there's no reason to be a Bulls fan, Rose or no Rose. Until they bring in better talent, better scorers, and more mature players, Chicago is looking at a 1st or 2nd round exit everytime.

    Thibs is doing what he can with the little scoring talent that he has. Telling him to limit starters' minutes is telling him to settle for a 4th or 5th seed if not worse.
    Bulls have enough players the problem is Derrick Rose he doesn't make his teammates better. They actually have one of the better rosters. Trade Derrick Rose if you want your team to go to the next level. Trade him for the #1 pick and get Wiggins and you'll be better off.

    So if Rose have to sit out some games, then who on the bulls can create their own shots? Who will carry the offensive load?

    Theyll play as a team... They will get better now that they can actually touch the ball...
  • windycity2117
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    I have read this trade D.Rose ? long enough.
    Fact no team has ever gone to the finals without a star player. When the game is on the line you need somebody to score. ( what Rose did against the Knicks.)

    Another fact.
    Teams that has won rings have at least a superstar & a all star. Or at least 2 or 3 all stars that can share the ball. Last just look at the past 10 years.


    Miami 2x Lebron,Wade,Bosh
    Dallas 2010-11 Dirk, Kidd
    LA 2x 2008-10 Kobe,Gasol, sometimes Andrew Bynum
    Boston 2007-08 Pierce,KG, Ray Allen, Rondo
    San Antonio Spurs 2006-07 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili
    Miami 2005-06 Wade,Shaq
    San Antonio Spurs 2004-05 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili.
    Detroit Pistons 2003-04 Sheed,Chauncey Billups, RIP Hamilton.

    The Wiggins idea crazy. So you would give up a MVP and one of the better players in league. For kid who has a lot to prove. Nobody knows how good or bad he will be in the NBA.

  • T. Sanford
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    I have read this trade D.Rose ? long enough.
    Fact no team has ever gone to the finals without a star player. When the game is on the line you need somebody to score. ( what Rose did against the Knicks.)

    Another fact.
    Teams that has won rings have at least a superstar & a all star. Or at least 2 or 3 all stars that can share the ball. Last just look at the past 10 years.


    Miami 2x Lebron,Wade,Bosh
    Dallas 2010-11 Dirk, Kidd
    LA 2x 2008-10 Kobe,Gasol, sometimes Andrew Bynum
    Boston 2007-08 Pierce,KG, Ray Allen, Rondo
    San Antonio Spurs 2006-07 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili
    Miami 2005-06 Wade,Shaq
    San Antonio Spurs 2004-05 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili.
    Detroit Pistons 2003-04 Sheed,Chauncey Billups, RIP Hamilton.

    The Wiggins idea crazy. So you would give up a MVP and one of the better players in league. For kid who has a lot to prove. Nobody knows how good or bad he will be in the NBA.

    Goat this post

    & lets not forget before the injury I think Rose was top 5 in the league, imo
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    I have read this trade D.Rose ? long enough.
    Fact no team has ever gone to the finals without a star player. When the game is on the line you need somebody to score. ( what Rose did against the Knicks.)

    Another fact.
    Teams that has won rings have at least a superstar & a all star. Or at least 2 or 3 all stars that can share the ball. Last just look at the past 10 years.


    Miami 2x Lebron,Wade,Bosh
    Dallas 2010-11 Dirk, Kidd
    LA 2x 2008-10 Kobe,Gasol, sometimes Andrew Bynum
    Boston 2007-08 Pierce,KG, Ray Allen, Rondo
    San Antonio Spurs 2006-07 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili
    Miami 2005-06 Wade,Shaq
    San Antonio Spurs 2004-05 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili.
    Detroit Pistons 2003-04 Sheed,Chauncey Billups, RIP Hamilton.

    The Wiggins idea crazy. So you would give up a MVP and one of the better players in league. For kid who has a lot to prove. Nobody knows how good or bad he will be in the NBA.

    Who was the star player on the 04 pistons? And the bulls have 2 all stars in noah and deng.I don't agree with the trade rose non sense duke is sayin but he has points about rose pg skills.That volume shooting ? is winning no titles.Bulls were idle while the rest of the nba caught up.Signing rip hamilton and mike dunleavy jr aint gonna cut it bulls front office fucced up
  • windycity2117
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    I have read this trade D.Rose ? long enough.
    Fact no team has ever gone to the finals without a star player. When the game is on the line you need somebody to score. ( what Rose did against the Knicks.)

    Another fact.
    Teams that has won rings have at least a superstar & a all star. Or at least 2 or 3 all stars that can share the ball. Last just look at the past 10 years.


    Miami 2x Lebron,Wade,Bosh
    Dallas 2010-11 Dirk, Kidd
    LA 2x 2008-10 Kobe,Gasol, sometimes Andrew Bynum
    Boston 2007-08 Pierce,KG, Ray Allen, Rondo
    San Antonio Spurs 2006-07 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili
    Miami 2005-06 Wade,Shaq
    San Antonio Spurs 2004-05 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili.
    Detroit Pistons 2003-04 Sheed,Chauncey Billups, RIP Hamilton.

    The Wiggins idea crazy. So you would give up a MVP and one of the better players in league. For kid who has a lot to prove. Nobody knows how good or bad he will be in the NBA.

    Who was the star player on the 04 pistons? And the bulls have 2 all stars in noah and deng.I don't agree with the trade rose non sense duke is sayin but he has points about rose pg skills.That volume shooting ? is winning no titles.Bulls were idle while the rest of the nba caught up.Signing rip hamilton and mike dunleavy jr aint gonna cut it bulls front office fucced up
    I have read this trade D.Rose ? long enough.
    Fact no team has ever gone to the finals without a star player. When the game is on the line you need somebody to score. ( what Rose did against the Knicks.)

    Another fact.
    Teams that has won rings have at least a superstar & a all star. Or at least 2 or 3 all stars that can share the ball. Last just look at the past 10 years.


    Miami 2x Lebron,Wade,Bosh
    Dallas 2010-11 Dirk, Kidd
    LA 2x 2008-10 Kobe,Gasol, sometimes Andrew Bynum
    Boston 2007-08 Pierce,KG, Ray Allen, Rondo
    San Antonio Spurs 2006-07 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili
    Miami 2005-06 Wade,Shaq
    San Antonio Spurs 2004-05 Duncan,Parker,Ginobili.
    Detroit Pistons 2003-04 Sheed,Chauncey Billups, RIP Hamilton.

    The Wiggins idea crazy. So you would give up a MVP and one of the better players in league. For kid who has a lot to prove. Nobody knows how good or bad he will be in the NBA.

    Who was the star player on the 04 pistons?
    And the bulls have 2 all stars in noah and deng.I don't agree with the trade rose non sense duke is sayin but he has points about rose pg skills.That volume shooting ? is winning no titles.Bulls were idle while the rest of the nba caught up.Signing rip hamilton and mike dunleavy jr aint gonna cut it bulls front office fucced up

    Chauncey Billups. They didn't call him Mr.Big Shot for nothing. Google mr. big shot and watch who picture pop's up.
    Wait I got you
    tumblr_mw2wt2gocH1rw6ig5o1_500.jpg

    When the game was on the line he got buckets
    http://youtu.be/9tsmR-UEt30
  • Tommy bilfiger
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    Chauncey Billups wasn't a star wtf.Robert Horry hit more big shots than billups and he wasn't a star
  • Beta
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    @windycity you mean star player or go-to player when you need points?

  • Chi-Town Bully
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    ^Why the ? you got a couple of beasts in your avi, my bad if those your girls

    Chauncey Billups has never been a star in the league