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  • deadeye
    deadeye Members Posts: 22,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Caetlyn is such a ? ? .


    Watching the 2nd episode now and how ? up it was the way she treated Jon Snow.


    Makes me have a greater appreciation for the Red Wedding.
  • deadeye
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    I'm starting to think it's something to @bignorm‌'s theory about Jon Snow too.


    When Cersei went to see Caetlyn in Bran's bedroom, she told him about the black-haired boy that she lost and said that he looked just like Bran.


    Granted, she might've been running game to avert suspicion, but....while Cersei was talking..... Caetlyn looked like she was thinking that Cersei could've been the woman who Ned had an affair with.


    Now, she didn't say how old her son was when he died.....so it's hard to tell whether or not Snow and her son are one in the same.


    If they're not.....they could possibly be half-brothers.


    Knowing how Cersei is, she could've been subliminally dropping hints to Cat that she ? her man.


    Kinda like that subtle, lowkey catty ? that females do to one-up each other.


    Too many hints were dropped to not think that it's a realistic possibility.


    The black hair comments in particular.


    The foreshadowing on this show>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  • The Lonious Monk
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    deadeye wrote: »
    I'm starting to think it's something to @bignorm‌'s theory about Jon Snow too.


    When Cersei went to see Caetlyn in Bran's bedroom, she told him about the black-haired boy that she lost and said that he looked just like Bran.


    Granted, she might've been running game to avert suspicion, but....while Cersei was talking..... Caetlyn looked like she was thinking that Cersei could've been the woman who Ned had an affair with.


    Now, she didn't say how old her son was when he died.....so it's hard to tell whether or not Snow and her son are one in the same.


    If they're not.....they could possibly be half-brothers.


    Knowing how Cersei is, she could've been subliminally dropping hints to Cat that she ? her man.


    Kinda like that subtle, lowkey catty ? that females do to one-up each other.


    Too many hints were dropped to not think that it's a realistic possibility.


    The black hair comments in particular.


    The foreshadowing on this show>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don't buy any of that. It would have been completely outside of Cersei's character to have that over Ned while he was in King's Landing but never mention it at all even during the 1-on-1 conversations they had. Nah.
  • Busta Carmichael
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    These two people are only a year apart in age.

    grid-cell-7488-1403528694-8.jpggrid-cell-7488-1403528695-13.jpg


    Mountain is 25 and Jojen is 24


    that's crazy
  • deadeye
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    loch121 wrote: »
    There's a GOT spinoff coming out that GRRM signed off on when he agreed to do GOT

    No word on what it's about

    Hopefully it's a prequel that focuses on the Mad King, Rhaegar Targaryen, how Robert Baratheon came into power, etc.
  • deadeye
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    deadeye wrote: »
    I'm starting to think it's something to @bignorm‌'s theory about Jon Snow too.


    When Cersei went to see Caetlyn in Bran's bedroom, she told him about the black-haired boy that she lost and said that he looked just like Bran.


    Granted, she might've been running game to avert suspicion, but....while Cersei was talking..... Caetlyn looked like she was thinking that Cersei could've been the woman who Ned had an affair with.


    Now, she didn't say how old her son was when he died.....so it's hard to tell whether or not Snow and her son are one in the same.


    If they're not.....they could possibly be half-brothers.


    Knowing how Cersei is, she could've been subliminally dropping hints to Cat that she ? her man.


    Kinda like that subtle, lowkey catty ? that females do to one-up each other.


    Too many hints were dropped to not think that it's a realistic possibility.


    The black hair comments in particular.


    The foreshadowing on this show>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don't buy any of that. It would have been completely outside of Cersei's character to have that over Ned while he was in King's Landing but never mention it at all even during the 1-on-1 conversations they had. Nah.

    It could've been something that they swore/agreed to never speak on again.
  • Ghostdenithegawd
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    TYWIN MAY of been ? shea since season 1
  • Juttythe3rd
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    I gotta tell ya, looking back im glad jojen is gone. I wasnt to crazy about the character on the show.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    deadeye wrote: »

    It could've been something that they swore/agreed to never speak on again.

    This is Cersei we're talking about. I don't see her swearing like that or holding true to it.
  • atribecalledgabi
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    Yall are forgetting that jon snow was born before or literally right after cersei and robert were married...

    And as for @deadeye theory...if jon snow is truly ned's son he hates himself for breaking his vow to catelyn and that was just over a ? . He has allegiance to king robert and the lannisters were their enemy at the time...ned ain't side stepping TWO oaths for no lannister ? .
  • Elzo69Renaissance
    Elzo69Renaissance Members Posts: 50,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Watching episode 1 season 1 right now
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    This ? is even better watching reruns now...Ned Srark wanted to ? the baby direwolves
  • dreadstatah
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    So how did Jamie take out the guards if he not that good with one hand? I know this ? didn't Judo chop his way through to tyrion. If you need to answer with a spoiler tag cool.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    I see where the hate for Cersei comes from ... Hope she meets her maker early in the next season
  • SuperSoaker
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    So how did Jamie take out the guards if he not that good with one hand? I know this ? didn't Judo chop his way through to tyrion. If you need to answer with a spoiler tag cool.


    I think vary gave them dream wine
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    I think Arya s gonna grow up to get on some gangster ?
  • Nastynate1219
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    Sion wrote: »
    So how did Jamie take out the guards if he not that good with one hand? I know this ? didn't Judo chop his way through to tyrion. If you need to answer with a spoiler tag cool.

    They don't say but it's alluded he is a Lannister after all & Varys helped him. If you look at the episode where Oberyn & The Mountain fight there's a scene where after Oberyn dies Jaime looks at Varys & shakes his head. There was a gif of it on imgur.

    man they ? that scene up ? didnt happen that was supposed to happen
    jaime was supposed to tell him the truth about tyrion first wife and cause beef between the two
    and that was the reason he killed his father

  • Nastynate1219
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    Im stay off this thread cause I know to much about the thrones,
    ? gonna get me banned and that show got me feeln some kind of way
    because im a book fan
    sorry for the spoilers ?
  • loch121
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    deadeye wrote: »
    deadeye wrote: »
    I'm starting to think it's something to @bignorm‌'s theory about Jon Snow too.


    When Cersei went to see Caetlyn in Bran's bedroom, she told him about the black-haired boy that she lost and said that he looked just like Bran.


    Granted, she might've been running game to avert suspicion, but....while Cersei was talking..... Caetlyn looked like she was thinking that Cersei could've been the woman who Ned had an affair with.


    Now, she didn't say how old her son was when he died.....so it's hard to tell whether or not Snow and her son are one in the same.


    If they're not.....they could possibly be half-brothers.


    Knowing how Cersei is, she could've been subliminally dropping hints to Cat that she ? her man.


    Kinda like that subtle, lowkey catty ? that females do to one-up each other.


    Too many hints were dropped to not think that it's a realistic possibility.


    The black hair comments in particular.


    The foreshadowing on this show>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don't buy any of that. It would have been completely outside of Cersei's character to have that over Ned while he was in King's Landing but never mention it at all even during the 1-on-1 conversations they had. Nah.

    It could've been something that they swore/agreed to never speak on again.

    Ummmm NO Cersei is not Jon Snow's mother.

    I'm pretty sure them ? would have come up when they had private convos in season 1

    That theory is ridiculous.but I see it's a thing and some ppl agree

    Ned's sister is most likely Jon Snow's mother

    Was cersei even in the picture then?Robert was still in love w/ Ned's sister then

    And if so Robert didn't notice Cersei pregnant for 9 months if she was around?
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Sion wrote: »
    So how did Jamie take out the guards if he not that good with one hand? I know this ? didn't Judo chop his way through to tyrion. If you need to answer with a spoiler tag cool.

    They don't say but it's alluded he is a Lannister after all & Varys helped him. If you look at the episode where Oberyn & The Mountain fight there's a scene where after Oberyn dies Jaime looks at Varys & shakes his head. There was a gif of it on imgur.

    man they ? that scene up ? didnt happen that was supposed to happen
    jaime was supposed to tell him the truth about tyrion first wife and cause beef between the two
    and that was the reason he killed his father

    It's debateable whether or not they ? it up. They took away Tyrion's primary reason for wanting to ? his father, so that's bad. However, keeping the relationship between Tyrion and Jaime feels better to me.
  • deadeye
    deadeye Members Posts: 22,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sion wrote: »
    So how did Jamie take out the guards if he not that good with one hand? I know this ? didn't Judo chop his way through to tyrion. If you need to answer with a spoiler tag cool.

    They don't say but it's alluded he is a Lannister after all & Varys helped him. If you look at the episode where Oberyn & The Mountain fight there's a scene where after Oberyn dies Jaime looks at Varys & shakes his head. There was a gif of it on imgur.

    man they ? that scene up ? didnt happen that was supposed to happen
    jaime was supposed to tell him the truth about tyrion first wife and cause beef between the two
    and that was the reason he killed his father

    It's debateable whether or not they ? it up. They took away Tyrion's primary reason for wanting to ? his father, so that's bad. However, keeping the relationship between Tyrion and Jaime feels better to me.


    They may have ? it up in the context of the book, but not in the context of the show since whatever the situation was with Tyrion's first wife hasn't been a topic of discussion on the show.


    Basically, it would've been worse if they had mentioned it because the viewers like myself who aren't bookreaders would wonder why Jaime was bringing it up at that point in the show.


    Therefore, within the context of the show, it's more plausible that Tyrion killed Tywin because of Shae than because of his first wife.
  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    Season 1 has so much foreshadowing
  • desertrain10
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    Smh

    Now I know why cersei is so paranoid

    Please if you haven't read ALL the books do not look ....

    The valonqar prophecies


    Anybody have any thoughts on em?
  • desertrain10
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    Mobile text...I meant to spoiler that

    Please don't ban me...please lol
  • desertrain10
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    Sion wrote: »
    Smh

    Now I know why cersei is so paranoid

    Please if you haven't read ALL the books do not look ....

    The valonqar prophecies


    Anybody have any thoughts on em?

    That's not a spoiler and they wont add it in the show. Way too late for them to. But yeah Maggie The Frog told her what's up. And thus far they've been right , down to a T. She didn't say specifically but it's pretty accurate so far. Kinda better that they leave it out tho. It'd be way out of place to just drop that ? in the show now SMMFH. I like that they're going with the angle of how she just wants to prove herself and gain more power.


    Major Spoiler Alert for Non-Book Readers.
    I'm still curious to know who the "little brother" will be, I think in Book 1 it's said that she's the older twin, but Jaime doesn't have 2 hands, Tyrion is no where near her. It could be anybody who has a brother LOLOL. Wouldn't it be some ? if it was Bran who wargs into someone and gets her ? Maaaannnn. I think Tommen will be the last one to go tho, and prolly in her arms. Myrcella I think is gonna get ambushed again, I doubt she'll get to see her mother again. One thing for sure, Cersei is finished. Now it's really a question of who does it.

    Yea just being cautious lol

    The part about the brother killing her is a bit of a spoiler too. Figured it would be jamie but you're right he doesn't have two hands. Tyrion is still a candidate. He has plenty of time to get hold of her considering that she is to out live her children and both are still alive. Or maybe even tyrion could order the hit lol
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