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This thread always holds me down until the games start back up.
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greenwood1921 wrote: »If a state don't have a second program that's ever ranked or even in a major conference -- repping that you "run the state" or any other rivalry slogans is obviously unnecessary.
But when "lil brother" start gettin' some hair around his nuts and thinkin' he the ? , it's time to shut him down.
Georgia Tech was a powerhouse for a hot second back in the day in certain periods (70s, early 90s, etc.)
texass is the "biggest" program in texas obviously.
The OK "Bedlam" rivalry is one of the most lopsided rivalries in the nation (OU leads by a laughable margin) but Okie Lite gained ground on recruiting vs OU in the late 80s and most of the 90s.
And ? can change if programs don't watch it. Let's face it, some of the "hot" programs right now in football were laughable prior to the 2000s and vice versa. For example, Florida State is the top program in Florida right now, but just the idea of that was laughable 25-30 years ago.
In terms of winning percentage, Florida State ranks as the 3rd most successful team in the past 25 years (as of the 2010 season) with a 77% win rate (231-69-2) and 12th over the last half century (1955–2010) with 67%
FSU was in the third of their 14 consecutive years finishing in the top 5...Bobby's only losing season was his first...FSU was already legit 25-30 years ago
Ooooh - K.
30 years ago was the mid 80s. FSU wasn't the best in Florida.
You do understand that there's a difference between being "legit" and being the BEST - right?
Right now - Texas tech and TCU are "legit" programs. Are they the best in Texas?
Okey Lite has been "legit" overall for the last 5-10 years. Are they the BEST in Oklahoma?
Stanford has always been a "legit" program. (And produced a lot of NFL talent over the years.) Were they the BEST in California in any Decade?
Auburn is a "legit" program. Overall - are they the BEST program in Bama?
Context, bruh. Context.
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63 RRR mollywhop days until CFB season starts...
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greenwood1921 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »If a state don't have a second program that's ever ranked or even in a major conference -- repping that you "run the state" or any other rivalry slogans is obviously unnecessary.
But when "lil brother" start gettin' some hair around his nuts and thinkin' he the ? , it's time to shut him down.
Georgia Tech was a powerhouse for a hot second back in the day in certain periods (70s, early 90s, etc.)
texass is the "biggest" program in texas obviously.
The OK "Bedlam" rivalry is one of the most lopsided rivalries in the nation (OU leads by a laughable margin) but Okie Lite gained ground on recruiting vs OU in the late 80s and most of the 90s.
And ? can change if programs don't watch it. Let's face it, some of the "hot" programs right now in football were laughable prior to the 2000s and vice versa. For example, Florida State is the top program in Florida right now, but just the idea of that was laughable 25-30 years ago.
In terms of winning percentage, Florida State ranks as the 3rd most successful team in the past 25 years (as of the 2010 season) with a 77% win rate (231-69-2) and 12th over the last half century (1955–2010) with 67%
FSU was in the third of their 14 consecutive years finishing in the top 5...Bobby's only losing season was his first...FSU was already legit 25-30 years ago
Ooooh - K.
30 years ago was the mid 80s. FSU wasn't the best in Florida.
You do understand that there's a difference between being "legit" and being the BEST - right?
Right now - Texas tech and TCU are "legit" programs. Are they the best in Texas?
Okey Lite has been "legit" overall for the last 5-10 years. Are they the BEST in Oklahoma?
Stanford has always been a "legit" program. (And produced a lot of NFL talent over the years.) Were they the BEST in California in any Decade?
Auburn is a "legit" program. Overall - are they the BEST program in Bama?
Context, bruh. Context.
Other than Auburn none of those "legit" programs were national title contenders, FSU was already a top 5-10 program playing anybody at anytime so i'm not sure how they idea of them being the best team in the state was laughable...but you go it, context -
greenwood1921 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »If a state don't have a second program that's ever ranked or even in a major conference -- repping that you "run the state" or any other rivalry slogans is obviously unnecessary.
But when "lil brother" start gettin' some hair around his nuts and thinkin' he the ? , it's time to shut him down.
Georgia Tech was a powerhouse for a hot second back in the day in certain periods (70s, early 90s, etc.)
texass is the "biggest" program in texas obviously.
The OK "Bedlam" rivalry is one of the most lopsided rivalries in the nation (OU leads by a laughable margin) but Okie Lite gained ground on recruiting vs OU in the late 80s and most of the 90s.
And ? can change if programs don't watch it. Let's face it, some of the "hot" programs right now in football were laughable prior to the 2000s and vice versa. For example, Florida State is the top program in Florida right now, but just the idea of that was laughable 25-30 years ago.
In terms of winning percentage, Florida State ranks as the 3rd most successful team in the past 25 years (as of the 2010 season) with a 77% win rate (231-69-2) and 12th over the last half century (1955–2010) with 67%
FSU was in the third of their 14 consecutive years finishing in the top 5...Bobby's only losing season was his first...FSU was already legit 25-30 years ago
Ooooh - K.
30 years ago was the mid 80s. FSU wasn't the best in Florida.
You do understand that there's a difference between being "legit" and being the BEST - right?
Right now - Texas tech and TCU are "legit" programs. Are they the best in Texas?
Okey Lite has been "legit" overall for the last 5-10 years. Are they the BEST in Oklahoma?
Stanford has always been a "legit" program. (And produced a lot of NFL talent over the years.) Were they the BEST in California in any Decade?
Auburn is a "legit" program. Overall - are they the BEST program in Bama?
Context, bruh. Context.
Other than Auburn none of those "legit" programs were national title contenders, FSU was already a top 5-10 program playing anybody at anytime so i'm not sure how they idea of them being the best team in the state was laughable...but you go it, context
30 seasons ago, (1983), FSU finished unranked. The next season, they were ranked 17th, then 15th, etc, etc. That's not a "national title contender 30 years ago" in my book.
They didn't become a true national title contender until the late 80s, early 90s. And yeah, I guess that was "25 years ago" which was basically off the top of my head. It was more like 30 years ago that I meant. (Hence 25-30 years ago range.)
And even then, the consensus "best program in Florida" was Miami. -
Miami was not the best team in Florida throughout the 90s
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Miami held the state down in the mid to late 80's...its close between Fsu and UF when you start to talk about the 90's because both teams were very successful that decade.I think Nebraska and Florida st. both had the highest win % of the 90's though
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http://collegefootball.about.com/od/schools/a/Winningest-College-Football-Programs-Of-The-1990s.htm
Miami wasnt even close in the 90s -
No one ever said Miami was the best team in the state in the 90s, ? .
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infamous114 wrote: »No one ever said Miami was the best team in the state in the 90s, ? .
??? ?? calm down there..
To have the best program in the 90s I would think you would be the best team correct??
You werent the best team and you didnt have the best program in 90s end of discussion.. -
Greenwood said we ran the 80s which we did. Idk why you came here to dispute Miami and the 90s when NO ONE ever said we were the best team in the 90s, ?
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greenwood1921 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »greenwood1921 wrote: »If a state don't have a second program that's ever ranked or even in a major conference -- repping that you "run the state" or any other rivalry slogans is obviously unnecessary.
But when "lil brother" start gettin' some hair around his nuts and thinkin' he the ? , it's time to shut him down.
Georgia Tech was a powerhouse for a hot second back in the day in certain periods (70s, early 90s, etc.)
texass is the "biggest" program in texas obviously.
The OK "Bedlam" rivalry is one of the most lopsided rivalries in the nation (OU leads by a laughable margin) but Okie Lite gained ground on recruiting vs OU in the late 80s and most of the 90s.
And ? can change if programs don't watch it. Let's face it, some of the "hot" programs right now in football were laughable prior to the 2000s and vice versa. For example, Florida State is the top program in Florida right now, but just the idea of that was laughable 25-30 years ago.
In terms of winning percentage, Florida State ranks as the 3rd most successful team in the past 25 years (as of the 2010 season) with a 77% win rate (231-69-2) and 12th over the last half century (1955–2010) with 67%
FSU was in the third of their 14 consecutive years finishing in the top 5...Bobby's only losing season was his first...FSU was already legit 25-30 years ago
Ooooh - K.
30 years ago was the mid 80s. FSU wasn't the best in Florida.
You do understand that there's a difference between being "legit" and being the BEST - right?
Right now - Texas tech and TCU are "legit" programs. Are they the best in Texas?
Okey Lite has been "legit" overall for the last 5-10 years. Are they the BEST in Oklahoma?
Stanford has always been a "legit" program. (And produced a lot of NFL talent over the years.) Were they the BEST in California in any Decade?
Auburn is a "legit" program. Overall - are they the BEST program in Bama?
Context, bruh. Context.
Other than Auburn none of those "legit" programs were national title contenders, FSU was already a top 5-10 program playing anybody at anytime so i'm not sure how they idea of them being the best team in the state was laughable...but you go it, context
30 seasons ago, (1983), FSU finished unranked. The next season, they were ranked 17th, then 15th, etc, etc. That's not a "national title contender 30 years ago" in my book.
They didn't become a true national title contender until the late 80s, early 90s. And yeah, I guess that was "25 years ago" which was basically off the top of my head. It was more like 30 years ago that I meant. (Hence 25-30 years ago range.)
And even then, the consensus "best program in Florida" was Miami.
Im pretty sure he was including all 30 years in which would include the 90s bigger ? -
Look at his 1st sentence in that post. He was talking about 1983 aka the 80s. Smarten up.
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greenwood1921 wrote: »If a state don't have a second program that's ever ranked or even in a major conference -- repping that you "run the state" or any other rivalry slogans is obviously unnecessary.
But when "lil brother" start gettin' some hair around his nuts and thinkin' he the ? , it's time to shut him down.
Georgia Tech was a powerhouse for a hot second back in the day in certain periods (70s, early 90s, etc.)
texass is the "biggest" program in texas obviously.
The OK "Bedlam" rivalry is one of the most lopsided rivalries in the nation (OU leads by a laughable margin) but Okie Lite gained ground on recruiting vs OU in the late 80s and most of the 90s.
And ? can change if programs don't watch it. Let's face it, some of the "hot" programs right now in football were laughable prior to the 2000s and vice versa. For example, Florida State is the top program in Florida right now, but just the idea of that was laughable 25-30 years ago.
Maybe you should look where the complete convo started from bigger ?
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Yea, cause we were running ? in Florida 25-30 years ago. You can't dispute that. Where does 90s come into play, smart guy? 25-30 years ago is 1984-1989.
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I will wait for Greenwood to say if he was only talking about that time period or the LAST 30 YEARS PERIOD (including) the 90s..
And ? can change if programs don't watch it. Let's face it, some of the "hot" programs right now in football were laughable prior to the 2000s and vice versa. <<<<< That sounds like all years included -
*sigh*
New Rule.
Before any nikka catches feelings when their team is mentioned, do yourself a favor...
1. Pick up a calculator.
2. Pick up a dictionary .
3. Read carefully.
25 seasons ago was 1988. 30 seasons ago was 83. (Hint: both of the seasons were in the 80s.)
As a nikka that really started following CFB as a kid in the late 80s -- trust -- Miami was the best program in Florida.
OU and Miami were like the Lakers and Celtics back then so I and any UM fan that knows their history would know.
If a nikka says "the Lakers dominated the Western conference" -- that don't mean the trailblazers or the Rockets were trash -- it just means the lakers were the best.
Jesus, walk with the chirren. -
I know Miami was the best in the 80s who doesnt know that..
So youre just speaking about the 80s was the discussion.. -
thatni99ajahmal wrote: »I know Miami was the best in the 80s who doesnt know that..
So youre just speaking about the 80s was the discussion..
AND they were still considered the best up until the early 90s, bruh. No other Florida program won a National Championship until FSU in '93 (finished #1 in the AP.)
You can't dethrone a national championship program as the "best program in the state" until you win a national championship too or that program falls completely the ? off and your program is at least a contender.
Miami started off the first 3 seasons of the 90s going 10-2, 12-0, and 11-1. And then after that, FSU stepped up and won a championship.
Even that one championship made it "arguable" at the time. If Stanford wins the national championship next year, will you be ready to say that overall, Stanford is the best program in Cali over USC - based off one championship?
We're talkin' 20+ years ago. Kinda hard to have prisoner of the moment'itis on some ? that happened 2 decades ago. C'mon, bruh. -
thatni99ajahmal wrote: »I know Miami was the best in the 80s who doesnt know that..
So youre just speaking about the 80s was the discussion..
yeah you just ? up pretty bad with your whole comprehension bruh. The state went back and forth way too much to try to claim one team as being dominant over an entire 30 year period smh. But if you really want to break it down
Early 90s too close to call between Miami and FSU
Mid 90s Florida and FSU back and forth
Late 90s FSU dominant
Early to mid 2000s Miami
Mid to late 2000s UF
Early 10s FSU -
Watching the RRR replay....
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thatni99ajahmal wrote: »I know Miami was the best in the 80s who doesnt know that..
So youre just speaking about the 80s was the discussion..
yeah you just ? up pretty bad with your whole comprehension bruh. The state went back and forth way too much to try to claim one team as being dominant over an entire 30 year period smh. But if you really want to break it down
Early 90s too close to call between Miami and FSU
Mid 90s Florida and FSU back and forth
Late 90s FSU dominant
Early to mid 2000s Miami
Mid to late 2000s UF
Early 10s FSU
Was the best team in the state of Floirda during the 90s -
thatni99ajahmal wrote: »thatni99ajahmal wrote: »I know Miami was the best in the 80s who doesnt know that..
So youre just speaking about the 80s was the discussion..
yeah you just ? up pretty bad with your whole comprehension bruh. The state went back and forth way too much to try to claim one team as being dominant over an entire 30 year period smh. But if you really want to break it down
Early 90s too close to call between Miami and FSU
Mid 90s Florida and FSU back and forth
Late 90s FSU dominant
Early to mid 2000s Miami
Mid to late 2000s UF
Early 10s FSU
Was the best team in the state of Floirda during the 90s
Late 90s like I said. How was yall dominant throughout the whole decade when Miami won 4/5 between 90-94 and we beat yall 3/4 between 95 and 97. Only reason I said early 90s was even debatable is because of yall NC in 93. Late was clearly yall so take that and run with it lol -
Speaking on the Arkansas-based radio show "Sports Talk with Bo Mattingly" this week, McElroy said LSU's sustained success over the past 10 years can be traced to Nick Saban, who coached the Tigers from 2000-04 and led them to the 2003 national title.
"They've had sustained success since (Nick) Saban left because he established that mindset," McElroy, who quarterbacked Alabama to the 2009 national title, said of the Tigers. Les Miles obviously did take over that program and has done a terrific job in his own right, but once you establish that mindset and have the leadership that's holding young players accountable, that success shouldn't soon dwindle. I think Alabama's going to be a perennial power for a number of years to come."
If he was on Saban's nuts harder he would turn to a ? . -
