Police gun down 17 year old unarmed black teen. (Update) Darren Wilson Not Indicted

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  • (ob)Scene
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    We really still wasting discussion on whether it was him in the store or not?

    His boy was clearly up in the surveillance video with him. You feed the detractors w/ excuses and fodder when you try to deny obvious facts. The facts of the situation are strong enough to make our point and have our voices heard. There is no reason to play conspiracist.
  • Chi Snow
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    He took the swisher and shoved the lil sand buggy

    Didn't deserve to die tho
  • God_Yunn
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  • Chi Snow
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    Dopeness

    Should have made Trayvon taller but ehh
  • THIRDSUPREME
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    Chicity wrote: »
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    Dopeness

    Should have made Trayvon taller but ehh

    Thats the 12 year old boy.
  • Chef_Taylor
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    Trayvon in the front beside aiyana
  • Zirconium
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    that drawing is powerful
  • D0wn
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    Chicity wrote: »
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    Dopeness

    Should have made Trayvon taller but ehh

    Hold up , where is the 6'2 250lb 8 year old???
  • D0wn
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    Why are old these ppl 21 years old n younger? 22+ year olds lives matter too.
    There stories matter too
    There voices matter too
    Too 2
    To to to to toooooooo
  • Ishi
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    The longer i looked at that picture i started to tear up.
  • playmaker88
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    Thats another pic being saved to the collection I wonder if there is a final form
  • Young_Chitlin
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  • ZydecoShawty
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    Looking at those images, ? just makes me feel hopeless, especially that look on Leslie face.
  • BIGG WILL
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    Forgot to tell this story and its a good retort to the foolishness.

    3 of us in the break room (all black) talking about the Brown and Gardner cases. We talking bout the injustices and what not. He saying how its ? up this and that, im yea, and this, that and the third. Were agreeing, but homie is doing most of the talking and the 3rd cat really isn't saying much.

    So, about 5 more folks walk into the room (2 Spanish and 3 White). Man, when I tell you that homies act in an instant! He started going in on the Protesters. So, I was like, nah man. I hate the fact that the Peaceful Protesters and the Looters all get lumped in together, etc, etc, etc .

    Then, homie was like, well man...What about the folks out there that's protesting out there every damn day! You mean to tell me that don't have no Jobs??? I told him that I didn't know and then asked him if he thought that all of those Marchers that Protested with MLK had Jobs???

    He said, "Well, I guess not."

    And I walked off.
  • 1of1
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    You mean to tell me that don't have no Jobs???
    I know a lady that said this too. I just told her that some things are more important than a job...also who's to say ppl don't go to demonstrations before or after work?

    Idiots like that aren't making sense, they're just passively expressing a lack of interest in the injustices being protested either b/c they're ignorant or unsympathetic to our struggle.


    1)Ppl work at different times. Did you observe the same person in the same place protesting for several days?

    2) How do you know they don't own something and create their own schedule?

    3) If they don't, so what? There's many reasons someone may not have a job. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to protest?

    4) Is their personal status more important to you than the issues they are helping to raise awareness for?

    5) Did you make this same complaint during a protest that wasn't tied into injustices committed specifically against "blacks"...ie Occupy Wall Street?

    6) A lot of ppl out there are doing the equivalent of volunteer work. Are you really gonna knock that?

    Etc...

    Bigg Will made a clever reference
  • letsgetitalready
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    R.I.P. Mike Brown
  • mrrealone
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    A rapper on fb posted these today. I never thought that vid of them on The First 48 would ever make it to see the light of day........


    http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2014/12/detroit_officer_who_shot_7-yea.html

    Detroit officer who shot 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley-Jones to stand trial third time


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    DETROIT, MI -- After two juries, both hung, failed to convict Detroit Police Officer Joseph Weekley of crimes stemming from the killing of 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley-Jones during a May 16, 2010 raid, the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office indicates it will give it another try.

    Weekley faces a misdemeanor count of negligent discharge of weapon causing death, which carries a punishment of up to two years in jail..........................





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    I never thought that video of the shooting would be released and see the light of day.............

  • 1of1
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    Look at that devil's face while the grandmother cries. No soul.
  • obnoxiouslyfresh
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    This picture is so compelling. That little one, 2nd to last in line and the only one whose eyes are staring at you is really doing something to my soul. Im sitting here trying to piece together whose who though. That's obviously Aiyanna and Trayvon in front, I assume Jordan Davis behind them because of the music symbol over his head? Mike Brown behind him, Darrien Hunt next to him with the poofy hair, Tamir is the little guy that's staring at me, but whose that all the way in back of the line?

    Ramarley Graham?
  • Copper
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    I was thinking Oscar Grant
  • stringer bell
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    philly.com/philly/news/20141218_Police_union_chief_decries_protests_over_shootings_of_unarmed_black_men.html
    Police union chief decries protests over shootings

    The president of Philadelphia's police union on Wednesday decried the protests sweeping cities across the country after grand juries in Missouri and New York state cleared white officers who killed unarmed black suspects.

    "We have to guard against a growing trend in this country to replace due process and the legal system with media-fueled mob rule and sensationalism," said John McNesby, president of the local Fraternal Order of Police lodge.

    McNesby spoke after a ceremony at the union hall in Northeast Philadelphia honoring city police officers for valor and bravery. While he directly addressed a small group of reporters, many who had attended the event remained in the packed union hall to hear him as well.

    "While it appears to enrage professional hate-mongers," he continued, "the fact is, police officers are covered by the same constitutional protections that they are risking their lives to protect [for] everyone else."

    At the ceremony, 83 officers were awarded commendations for valor, bravery, and heroism, including some who exchanged gunfire with suspects or killed armed suspects.

    McNesby, who spoke from a lectern moved off the stage after the ceremony, denounced the outpourings of anger and protest sparked last month by grand juries' decisions not to bring charges against police in the cases of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in Staten Island.

    "As a society," McNesby said, "we have to soon decide between the rule of law and due process, or a group of inspired lynch mobs."

    Though not by name, he defended the two patrol officers who shot and killed Brandon Tate-Brown, a 26-year-old African American parolee who police say struggled with the officers and reached for a gun during a Mayfair traffic stop early Monday.

    "When our officers are confronted by a convicted, violent felon who should not be out of prison - who is in possession of a stolen, loaded firearm - what else do you want us to do?" he asked. "We're not going to call a timeout. We're not going to call a news hotline."

    He spoke in disgust about protesters who want to "stir up trouble."

    "Ask yourself a question," he said. "Where were the protesters at any of the almost daily shootings and killings in Philadelphia?"

    Just a few days ago, he said, a 13-year-old was shot in Wissinoming.

    "No protesters at the location," he said.

    "We are sick and tired of people who want to protest for the sake of protesting," he said. "And when it comes time somebody is victimized in their own community - when someone is shot or robbed or killed - they don't step up and cooperate with police."

    Matthew Smith, a local official with the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network - which has been organizing protests nationally - attended a vigil outside Tate-Brown's home Monday, saying his group was seeking "justice - whatever it is."

    Smith and other protest leaders could not be reached Wednesday for comment.

    Protests in Philadelphia have been peaceful, including City Hall marches and "die-ins" at high schools and outside an Eagles game, where 200 protesters lay down in the street. Police have been praised for their handling of the demonstrations.

    "This isn't Ferguson," McNesby said. "This is Philadelphia. We are all very well-trained. Let's show police some support."

    Police shootings have sharply declined in Philadelphia over the last five years, statistics show.

    So far this year, there have been 25 police shooting incidents, as opposed to 50 in 2010. Four people have been killed by police in 2014, as opposed to 11 this time last year.

    At the union hall, McNesby finished his remarks by reading aloud the names of the eight police officers killed since 2007.

    Then he asked his supporters another question:

    "Did anyone see Al Sharpton or any of his convicted thugs at any of them funerals?"

  • stringer bell
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    msnbc.com/msnbc/lawsuit-claims-racial-discrimination-ferguson-voting
    Lawsuit claims racial discrimination in Ferguson voting

    School board elections in Ferguson, Missouri use a racially discriminatory system that is helping to keep blacks “all but locked out of the political process,” a new federal lawsuit alleges.

    The suit, filed Thursday morning by the American Civil Liberties Union in a federal district court in St. Louis, is the first effort to use the legal system to change the area’s political balance of power since unrest over the death of Michael Brown last summer focused attention on local blacks’ severe under-representation in government.

    It takes aim at the Ferguson-Florissant school board’s use of an at-large voting system. Courts have found that at-large systems can make it impossible for groups that are in the numerical minority to gain representation.

    “Today, African Americans constitute a minority of the voting age population of the District,” the lawsuit alleges. “Under the current electoral system, they are systematically unable to elect candidates of their choice and are all but locked out of the political process.”

    The glaring absence of minorities in Ferguson’s city government, and on its police force, has become well-known since Brown’s death in August, and the angry protests it sparked put a spotlight on this St. Louis suburb of 21,000. Though blacks make up two thirds of the city’s population, six out of seven of the city council members, and the mayor and city manager, are white.

    But the problem is just as acute on the local school board, where six of seven members are also white, despite a student population that’s 73% black. Until earlier this year, there were no black members.


    A spokeswoman for the Ferguson-Florissant district did not immediately respond to msnbc’s request for comment on the lawsuit.

    The ACLU’s lawsuit claims that the district’s at-large system violates the Voting Rights Act’s (VRA) ban on racial discrimination in voting. Under an at-large system, all candidates are elected by all the voters, rather than representing specific geographical areas. The plaintiffs want the system replaced with single-member districts.

    The current system dilutes “the voting power of the African-American community and severely undermines their voice in the political process,” said Dale ? , director of the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project.

    Dividing voters into districts tends to make it easier for minority candidates to get elected, experts say, because their supporters will likely make up a majority within one or more individual district, even if they’re outnumbered across the entire jurisdiction. Under an at-large system, minority groups risk being left without anyone in power looking out for their interests.

    “I was really surprised to find that this particular electoral seating was based on at-large votes,” said Rev. T. Willis Johnson, who ran unsuccessfully for the school board this year and is one of the plaintiffs in the case. Under the system, Johnson said, “you may or not have any representation for your zone or cluster of schools.”

    In August, a federal court found that the at-large voting system used by Yakima, Washington violates the Voting Rights Act by making it all but impossible for Hispanics, who make up around a third of the city’s population, to elect their chosen representatives to the city council. That lawsuit, too, was brought by the ACLU. Fayette County, Georgia’s at-large system also was struck down by a federal court under the VRA earlier this year, leading to the election of the first black woman to the county commission. Civil rights groups last month sued the city of Pasadena, Texas, after it moved to an at-large system.

    Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act bars not just intentional racial discrimination in voting, but also actions that have the effect of discriminating. Courts have generally required that plaintiffs show, at the least, that the action hurt minorities because it exacerbated an existing history of discrimination.

    That history of discrimination is present in this case, the lawsuit alleges. The school district was created by a 1975 desegregation order intended to remedy the effects of discrimination against African-American students.

    “The Ferguson-Florissant School District serves an area whose history is fraught with discrimination against African-American citizens,” the lawsuit says. “The borders of the municipalities were initially drawn along racial lines, established to avoid increasing African American voting strength, and kept in force by racial housing covenants.”

    There’s plenty of evidence that Ferguson’s school system isn’t working for black students. Though they make up 77% of the district’s students, they were just 35% of those enrolled in the district’s Gifted and Talented program, according to the most recent Department of Education figures. But they made up 88% of nondisabled kids placed in in-school suspension. And all 51 students who were subject to a school-related arrest in 2011 were black.

    The school board has been the subject of racially charged rancor lately. Earlier this year, Art McCoy, the district’s first black superintendent, stepped down after having been suspended by the board, which cited “differences of philosophy and focus.”

    The treatment of McCoy angered many in the black community, and prompted a slate of three black candidates, including Johnson, to run against whites—two of whom were incumbents—for seats on the board. After what appears to have been deeply racially polarized voting, one of the black candidates was elected, while two were defeated.

    Brown’s death sparked a well-publicized effort to mobilize the African-American community in Ferguson and the St. Louis area, amid concern over low black turnout rates for local elections. It seemed to be producing strong results when the St. Louis County Board of Elections announced in October that 3,287 new voters had registered in Ferguson since the shooting. But that turned out to be an error. The real number was just 128.

    The ACLU is bringing the suit on behalf of the NAACP’s Missouri chapter. The groups cite what they call a “long history of state-sanctioned disenfranchisement of African-American voters.

  • 1of1
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    We have to guard against a growing trend in this country to replace due process and the legal system with media-fueled mob rule and sensationalism," said John McNesby, president of the local Fraternal Order of Police lodge.

    This just shows you they aren't listening.

    Our police in this nation are way past delusional. All that hero talk and war on _____ has gone to their heads. He's talking about sensationalism while making a sensational statement ("trend in this country to replace due process and the legal system with media-fueled mob rule"). All ppl have to do is protest and demand change and this is the reaction you get out of them.

    They have the guns and the law/govt on there side and many of them prove everyday that there is no reasoning with them. You think your police are honorable? Just a bunch of savages with guns who feel like they have authority over your life.