'Money & Violence' (webisode)....Brooklyn's version of 'The Wire' (Updated with SEASON FINALE)
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I'm a professional hater, but y'all trying too hard to find something to hate on... let this ? be great.
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Nah b, ? wanna hear the other members speak in an interview
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yeah rafe is a little overbearing but yall seem like yall hoping and praying for these guys to start infighting
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shiit I may be wrong..I only saw their breakfast club interview (where he did do most of the talking) and one of the short vladtv ones...and it didn't come off as bad as y'all making it seem. But like I said, he IS the show so it's only naturally that he gets the most speaking time.
And plus you never know some of them ? might not even wanna be talking in the interviews like that -
man ? that. without the rest of the ? rafe aint ? . now i would feel you if he was the ONLY ? acting in the show then i would give you that, but he's not. i want to hear from everybody else too. hell rafe aint even my favorite character, miz is and i cant never hear what he has to say cause rafe wants to be.....all in the videos....you get what im saying. that ? just need to ? and let other people get they shine on. no cmr
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The best part of the finale was the scene when Rafe's OG/Big Homie was trying to school him about getting out of the game.
Rafe tried to throw some jewels at him, but it sounded like ? because deep down I think Rafe knew dude was speaking the truth.
I get what they were trying to do with Rafe getting shot.
Basically trying to show that anybody can get caught slipping if you're heavy in the streets like that.
The only problem I had with it is that it didn't seem consistent with the storyline because there's nothing in Rafe's character to indicate that he's the type of dude to give up his gun just to get a drink at a bar.
If Rafe's character stayed true to form, he would've just left once he realized his bouncer friend wasn't working that night.
They made it obvious that Rafe only goes there when that bouncer is working.....so, why change up now?
Hard to believe he needed a drink that bad unless everything his OG/Big Homie was trying to tell him was causing him to re-evaluate his life.
It would've been more realistic if Rafe kept his gun, went home, and still got robbed/shot because that would still send the message that anybody can "get got" and, on top of that..... show that carrying a gun doesn't always guarantee your protection.
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I bet Jessica will assume Shay had Rafe set up..
Jessica still doesn't know that Rafe is a street dude and not a 9-to-5 cat, so she'll probably assume that Shay told Choppa about her and Rafe seeing each other and think that's the reason Choppa shot him. -
This finale just left more questions.
It didn't wrap up any story lines really,but it was good.I don't quite get why the Jamaicans are beefing with each other?
You know Rafe ain't dead.IDK what Choppa's plan was?
? ass snitching Tai.I thought his sister was gonna call cops,funny laughing ass ? .
How is Kane gonna get away with killing Mister in what appeared to be his building?
Why didn't we get to see that funny ? ' cousin go see about Shane?
I realized Black set Rafe up right before they showed the Choppa scene.
I'm wondering,does that mean the older dude who brought that lick to him was in on it too?
Rafe doesn't seem to suspect him,but he is who put that sale together with Choppa.
I hate Rafe's character always preaching,but seeing Ebro trying to out preach the preacher was like a URL battle.That was so painful and hilarious.
I wonder if Rafe may think Jessica set him up?
LoL, that ? was hilarious. Ebro was perfect for that role. I don't mind the preaching, but like I said sometimes it just stifles the continuity. They could be getting a hamburger and Rafe will be like " A hamburger is a lot like these streets, it's deceptive. It's not actually ham, but we instinctively understand it's a burger. The sesame seed bun represents the delicate balance of what's real and what isn't. As you eat your hamburger, you see the seeds fall off the outside of the bun and realize what's inside isn't really real to be begin with, I've seen a lot of people fall off in these streets, sometimes you have to respect the outer appearance of things and realize we not all meant to eat the hamburger"
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Man I'm almost caught up, on the season finale...I'll have to watch part 2, tomorrow....
But was any one else audio messing up? I missed I alot of what was being said on part 1 of the finale -
https://thefader.com/2015/02/18/how-money-violence-swept-the-city-by-starting-from-scratchHow The Hit Web Series Money & Violence Blew Up On A DIY Budget
On a frigid Tuesday night, in a nondescript apartment in the Midwood neighborhood of South Brooklyn, director Moses "Moetivation" Ver is on set, teaching me how to shoot. "A lot of people don't realize: you can discharge a firearm in broad day," he says with the air of a big brother, slightly amused and slightly annoyed when I ask how he pulls off the lightning-quick gunplay in his hit web series, Money & Violence. "All you have to do is tuck [the gun] away once you do. Once you walk away and don't run, most people are looking, 'Where did that come from?' They're looking for somebody running," he stresses. "It's common sense."
Later that week, he uploaded the finale of Money & Violence's first season straight to YouTube, where the series has found a growing audience for its lucid portrayal of Brooklyn—not as a bohemian utopia for young professionals, as it's been portrayed in other contemporary media, but a gritty melange of immigrant cultures and astute criminals. Imagine a New York version of The Wire. A Haitian-American Flatbush native, Ver writes, directs, edits, and stars in the show, and he takes pride in his work being hyperreal; often, that means flying under the radar. "If you notice, every time Miz takes care of something, he just walks away," he says of one of his main characters, played by his business partner and close friend Ray Day. "As long as you don't pull that attention towards you, you're just blending into that background."
When Money & Violence debuted in August 2014, the show was just as low-key. There was barely any promotional push, but the twenty-minute pilot episode soon went viral thanks to an early scene where, on a sunny afternoon, Miz fires a single shot at a stoop straggler who's heckling the girl he's walking with. "If ? learned how to have respect, ? like that wouldn't happen," Miz explains plainly on a park bench, a few feet away from children on tire swings. That pilot gave way to a 24-episode first season, all available free to stream on YouTube. Episodes premiere on Tuesdays, and are conceived of and totally created in the week before. "I didn't sleep 2 to 3 days out the week," Ver explains of his winter work schedule. "I'd get home maybe 3, 4 in the morning, and then I'd just stay up for like an additional 10 hours editing, just to make sure that that thing aired at 8. And a lot of people don't know, sometimes the episode was done at 7 in the evening." But the work paid off: Ver's YouTube channel racked up millions of views strictly off word-of-mouth before he began fielding requests to appearance on Fox News and major radio stations. "We never really thought this far," says. "We didn't really put this project together thinking, okay, we're gonna get on network television, we're gonna do this."
Money & Violence is Ver's first foray into film, as it is for many of his actors. "Money & Violence, to some degree, is based on my past," Ver says, explaining that the series started as a novel, then a feature film, before taking form as a series. "I knew absolutely nothing. When I purchased a camera, I just said, 'What's the best Canon?' I asked about editing software. We just spent what we had to spend along the way." The mantra on the set is just as DIY. Days of shooting can last 18 hours, as cast members pass around cameras, boom mics, and beers when they aren't on screen. Scripts are read and memorized off smartphones; shots are framed on the fly. For early episodes, Ver turned to family and friends, none of whom had acted before, and some of whom turned down his offer to help on a massive project with no seed money, compensation, or guarantee of returns. "Now, everyone's hoping I ask them," he laughs. The acting is unpolished but lived in, and characters gain depth throughout the season. "After this season ends, we've all decided to take acting classes," Ver says. "If [fans] have taken their time to watch this, with the minimal amount of production that we have, with the minimal amount of acting experience that we have, then we owe it, now, if we have more resources, to make this better for them."
While at first glance, Money & Violence may look familiar—Hot 97's Ebro Darden took the crew to task during an interview for promoting violent imagery—there are several nuances that distinguish the series from the hood drama canon. Venau's interest in writing is evident in the idioms he litters his scripts with: "The early bird catches the worm, while the late eagle plays in the dirt. Sleep is necessary, but that ? won't get you a full stomach." The plot is driven not by explosive shootouts, but intricately planned heists that don't always go right. Ver's character, Rafe, is a conservative criminal: he refuses to sell drugs, dismissing one tip for a job robbing a pharmacy of Oxycontin as "stealing Tylenol." Women are also portrayed more responsibly than elsewhere within the genre: there are no gratuitous sex scenes or visits to strip clubs, and female characters Jessica and Shay enjoy their own fully developed plotlines and twists. "I have females that DM me saying, 'Let me be on Money & Violence, I want to be a female shooter,'" Ver says. "I'm like, no, this is what a regular hood film would do. I've known women who have dabbled in the streets," he says with a slight laugh, "but like, where does that happen? I did not want this to be another State Property. I did not want this to be another Belly. I wanted this to be something that was taken seriously."
At one point in my visit, Ver and an actor named Ace are seated in a living room, shooting the first scene of the season one finale. In the script, Ace's character, Kane, a neighborhood target who is frequently bullied, just caught his first body: he fired a shot to save Rafe's life during a tense burglary. While filming, the cast obsesses over continuity and delivery, noting head tilts and enunciation while covering the dialogue from different angles. When a side conversation about Polo sweaters strays too far, Ver reigns them in: "Come on, can we work, man?" Later, when one cast member rambles during an on-camera interview for BET, who are also on-hand filming a news segment about the show, Ver waits until they finish, takes his actor to the next room to offer suggestions, then has them reshoot the interview.
Ver's leadership on set is much like Rafe's on screen: deliberate, stern, but ultimately selfless and helpful. While guiding Ace through his performance, frazzled and shaken after a critical turning point for his character, Ver talks through the scene with a film reference. "You've seen Saving Private Ryan?" he asks the room. "Remember when that dude was fighting the German, and he put a knife through his throat, and the other dude was standing there scared and let him die? He didn't have it in him." Theirs is a scene about real wars, fought face-to-face, as they used to be. Ace internalizes, and the scene rolls forward. -
The audio was messing up with me as well I thought it was on my end but it was prolly that cheap ass Brooklyn equipment.Man I'm almost caught up, on the season finale...I'll have to watch part 2, tomorrow....
But was any one else audio messing up? I missed I alot of what was being said on part 1 of the finale
I just put my head phones in when the audio started ? up and I heard just fine.
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I'll watch it all again at work Monday
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Whatever happened to that girl that Leon was cool with?
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T. Sanford wrote: »Whatever happened to that girl that Leon was cool with?
Forgot all about her.
Last thing I remember is Shane trying to get with her after Leon played him with those gift cards. -
That choppa ? should have waited till rafe went into the house before hitting him....smh...
What does rushing him in the hall way get? 1k at most -
And Leon is my favorite character....This ? knows his lane well.....he just don't be trying to pay people.....so they dragging his ? ass along
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The only problem I had with it is that it didn't seem consistent with the storyline because there's nothing in Rafe's character to indicate that he's the type of dude to give up his gun just to get a drink at a bar.
If Rafe's character stayed true to form, he would've just left once he realized his bouncer friend wasn't working that night.
They made it obvious that Rafe only goes there when that bouncer is working.....so, why change up now?
Hard to believe he needed a drink that bad unless everything his OG/Big Homie was trying to tell him was causing him to re-evaluate his life.
It was All-Star weekend. My ? was trying to get in and hand out them jewels to the out of towners at the bar. -
Yea you think them ? woulda been working overtime all star weekend
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Nah b, ? wanna hear the other members speak in an interview
So Rafe is the 50 cent of the crew when it comes to interviews,its a 49 min interview he 50 talk 47 min and the rest of Gunit combine to talk for 2min lol
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It was All-Star weekend. My ? was trying to get in and hand out them jewels to the out of towners at the bar.
And folks....this here is AHH quote of the week
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Just found out the spanish ? that shot at kane goes to my school. Lol he keeps to himself and goes in and out of school. He doesnt ? wit nobody in my school.
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PapaDoc223 wrote: »Just found out the spanish ? that shot at kane goes to my school. Lol he keeps to himself and goes in and out of school. He doesnt ? wit nobody in my school.
Best way to be... ? these ppl, get what you there for.. -
These ? cant afford to wait longer than a month to start the new season. This ? will be forgotten so quick.
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I know I'm late, but this ? is pretty good.
The production value, editing, dialogue, and acting can all be down right terrible at times. Because of that I didn't even think I'd be able to get through the first episode. But the characters and overall story is good so it starts to pull you in after a while.
http://youtu.be/JSeFd3ZRPqM
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