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  • numbaz...80's baby
    numbaz...80's baby Members Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yea...I agree with shieky. If I was Chip I wouldn't have over-paid those players either. His choice of some the replacements could be better, but that doesn't negate the fact that the players he let go aint doing ? right now.
  • 804
    804 Members Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Bruh

    Your coach ain't ? . The gimmick offense is figured out. Year one ppl was running wide open. ? got figured out towards the end of last year.

    Stop defending him and his moves.

    He's a OK offensive coach and a terrible GM.

    Dude been GM one year lol.

    What the ? does that mean?

    Are these proven veterans working for him?

    Maxwell
    Murray
    Cooper
    Kiko
    Bradford
    The two new offensive lineman


    Are his moves working?

    Bruh, I thought Ron Rivera was gone after we started 1-3 2 years ago, but that would have been a terrible move. The guy motivates his players and they believe in what he preaches, and we're having success now because of it.

    If Chip makes a couple of moves in the off-season that are successful next year, sports media is back on his ? . High speed internet got 'Murica ready to pull the plug on something instantly.
  • detcatinva
    detcatinva Members Posts: 11,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just saw the Greg hardy incident. Dude is legit crazy and has the traits of a sociopath
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Bruh

    Your coach ain't ? . The gimmick offense is figured out. Year one ppl was running wide open. ? got figured out towards the end of last year.

    Stop defending him and his moves.

    He's a OK offensive coach and a terrible GM.

    Dude been GM one year lol.

    What the ? does that mean?

    Are these proven veterans working for him?

    Maxwell
    Murray
    Cooper
    Kiko
    Bradford
    The two new offensive lineman


    Are his moves working?

    Bruh, I thought Ron Rivera was gone after we started 1-3 2 years ago, but that would have been a terrible move. The guy motivates his players and they believe in what he preaches, and we're having success now because of it.

    If Chip makes a couple of moves in the off-season that are successful next year, sports media is back on his ? . High speed internet got 'Murica ready to pull the plug on something instantly.

    Getting a quarterback makes all the difference. Chip hasn't had one yet. I say, let him get one before tearing him down to nothing.

    And specifically to you 804, I was praying that Cam would hit free agency when those rumors were floating around. I saw nothing but championship banners if we could have signed him haha.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    shieky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Bruh

    Your coach ain't ? . The gimmick offense is figured out. Year one ppl was running wide open. ? got figured out towards the end of last year.

    Stop defending him and his moves.

    He's a OK offensive coach and a terrible GM.

    Dude been GM one year lol.

    What the ? does that mean?

    Are these proven veterans working for him?

    Maxwell
    Murray
    Cooper
    Kiko
    Bradford
    The two new offensive lineman


    Are his moves working?

    Are the people he cut balling out?

    Trent Cole
    Todd Herremans - benched
    Evan Mathis - ranked someone in the 60s out of all guards in the league
    Foles
    Shady
    DeSean - since you bring up Kiko, it appears injuries are reasons to ? on moves
    Toast Fletcher
    Cary Williams
    Nate Allen

    The only person worth a damn that was lost is Maclin. And I already posted that they weren't willing to make him an 11 milli man.

    How about talking about how picking up Ryan Matthews was a boon? How about drafting Hicks? How about Maxwell is actually playing well after stuttering the first few weeks. How about we have one of the best safety tandems in the league, both were picked by Chip. How about resigning Mychal Kendricks long term.

    Just admit you bought into the racist hype and the media hype about revolutionary ? ... and hate him for that. Plus hate him for dropping 39 on your team a few weeks ago.

    All those dudes was doing that damn thing all on the same team for years.

    The two Olineman is better then their replacements

    Cary Williams is doing better this his replacement

    Shady is still better then both his replacements

    Jacskon is still better then his replacements

    Kiko is overrated. Making the tackles don't mean your great. Just like in buffalo the defense became so much better when he got hurt

    Cole is still a better end rusher then his replacement.

    Maxwell ain't being paid to be good. He's being paid to be a shutdown corner. And he's no where near that.
  • 804
    804 Members Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    shieky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Bruh

    Your coach ain't ? . The gimmick offense is figured out. Year one ppl was running wide open. ? got figured out towards the end of last year.

    Stop defending him and his moves.

    He's a OK offensive coach and a terrible GM.

    Dude been GM one year lol.

    What the ? does that mean?

    Are these proven veterans working for him?

    Maxwell
    Murray
    Cooper
    Kiko
    Bradford
    The two new offensive lineman


    Are his moves working?

    Are the people he cut balling out?

    Trent Cole
    Todd Herremans - benched
    Evan Mathis - ranked someone in the 60s out of all guards in the league
    Foles
    Shady
    DeSean - since you bring up Kiko, it appears injuries are reasons to ? on moves
    Toast Fletcher
    Cary Williams
    Nate Allen

    The only person worth a damn that was lost is Maclin. And I already posted that they weren't willing to make him an 11 milli man.

    How about talking about how picking up Ryan Matthews was a boon? How about drafting Hicks? How about Maxwell is actually playing well after stuttering the first few weeks. How about we have one of the best safety tandems in the league, both were picked by Chip. How about resigning Mychal Kendricks long term.

    Just admit you bought into the racist hype and the media hype about revolutionary ? ... and hate him for that. Plus hate him for dropping 39 on your team a few weeks ago.

    All those dudes was doing that damn thing all on the same team for years.

    The two Olineman is better then their replacements

    Cary Williams is doing better this his replacement

    Shady is still better then both his replacements

    Jacskon is still better then his replacements

    Kiko is overrated. Making the tackles don't mean your great. Just like in buffalo the defense became so much better when he got hurt

    Cole is still a better end rusher then his replacement.

    Maxwell ain't being paid to be good. He's being paid to be a shutdown corner. And he's no where near that.

    I wonder if Sean Payton knew all this, and if he did how come he wasn't able to find ways to stop the Eagles
  • 804
    804 Members Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ sheiky Cam would have been dead to me.
  • ericb4prez
    ericb4prez Members Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ima leave it at this its a reason the eagles got a lot of dropped passes lol
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ? defending a losing record.

    All them ? had y'all winning and now they are gon y'all not winning.

    Simple.

    It all Falls back on one person.
  • MeTaL
    MeTaL Members Posts: 6,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    Is this ? really sitting up here saying that Desean and Mccoy wasn't worth a damn????????????????? So Riley Cooper is 10 times the better receiver than Desean??
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    shieky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Bruh

    Your coach ain't ? . The gimmick offense is figured out. Year one ppl was running wide open. ? got figured out towards the end of last year.

    Stop defending him and his moves.

    He's a OK offensive coach and a terrible GM.

    Dude been GM one year lol.

    What the ? does that mean?

    Are these proven veterans working for him?

    Maxwell
    Murray
    Cooper
    Kiko
    Bradford
    The two new offensive lineman


    Are his moves working?

    Are the people he cut balling out?

    Trent Cole
    Todd Herremans - benched
    Evan Mathis - ranked someone in the 60s out of all guards in the league
    Foles
    Shady
    DeSean - since you bring up Kiko, it appears injuries are reasons to ? on moves
    Toast Fletcher
    Cary Williams
    Nate Allen

    The only person worth a damn that was lost is Maclin. And I already posted that they weren't willing to make him an 11 milli man.

    How about talking about how picking up Ryan Matthews was a boon? How about drafting Hicks? How about Maxwell is actually playing well after stuttering the first few weeks. How about we have one of the best safety tandems in the league, both were picked by Chip. How about resigning Mychal Kendricks long term.

    Just admit you bought into the racist hype and the media hype about revolutionary ? ... and hate him for that. Plus hate him for dropping 39 on your team a few weeks ago.

    All those dudes was doing that damn thing all on the same team for years.

    The two Olineman is better then their replacements

    Cary Williams is doing better this his replacement

    Shady is still better then both his replacements

    Jacskon is still better then his replacements

    Kiko is overrated. Making the tackles don't mean your great. Just like in buffalo the defense became so much better when he got hurt

    Cole is still a better end rusher then his replacement.

    Maxwell ain't being paid to be good. He's being paid to be a shutdown corner. And he's no where near that.


    Yup. We're done. You just said all of them were doing that thing.

    Trent Cole - 13 tackles, 2 pass deflections || His replacement - 24 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 forced fumble

    I can't speak to Cary Williams vs Maxwell because hard stats are tough to find. However, our pass defense has gone from 31st to 19th.

    I've conceded that Evan Mathis is the only move I disagree with -- but still understand it. Herremans however, was benched in Indy. How is he better?

    Shady? 427 total yards, 3.9 average, 1 td, 1 20+ yard run.
    Murray 439 total yards, 3.5avg, 4 td, 3 20+ runs.
    Matthews 439 total yards, 6.1avg, 5 td, 4 20+ runs.

    ?????

    I won't even mention Sproles impact.

    DeSean is good... he just isn't playing.

    Kiko is more than just a volume tackler. He is a playmaker at the position. Sacks, forced fumbles and interceptions. Show me comparable players who have the stats to back it up. You only see 159 tackles, but apparently missed 5 turnovers, 2 sacks and a pair of pass deflections. Also must have missed a touchdown saving, one handed interception against the Falcons in week 1.

    I also looked back and saw that you were the guy who was debating with me about Bradford being good in the off season.

    It all makes sense now.

    I had no clue I was debating with the ghost of Ray Charles.


    Edit: ? a spell check.
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    MeTaL wrote: »
    Is this ? really sitting up here saying that Desean and Mccoy wasn't worth a damn????????????????? So Riley Cooper is 10 times the better receiver than Desean??

    Why does Coop get brought into this. And where is this arbitrary 10 times better coming from?

    What is with the hyperbole from you guys?
  • bless the child
    bless the child Members Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    804 wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Bruh

    Your coach ain't ? . The gimmick offense is figured out. Year one ppl was running wide open. ? got figured out towards the end of last year.

    Stop defending him and his moves.

    He's a OK offensive coach and a terrible GM.

    Dude been GM one year lol.

    What the ? does that mean?

    Are these proven veterans working for him?

    Maxwell
    Murray
    Cooper
    Kiko
    Bradford
    The two new offensive lineman


    Are his moves working?

    To some extent yes, 18 take ways on the season leads the league. The secondary has made a drastic improvement. Actually the entire defense. It's the offense that's ? up.

    They put up a stat that had the last 3 or 4 teams to start out with that many takeaways had records of like 6-0, 7-0 or something like that. If the Eagles offense was a little better they would probably have a record similar to those mention. It's cool though, RG3 gonna be a free man next year!
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If your record is worst then the moves ain't working.

  • ericb4prez
    ericb4prez Members Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So McCoy got the same numbers and he missed games smh
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    If your record is worst then the moves ain't working.

    Says the guy who called Bradford good.

    From now on, that will be my only response to you. You've earned it.
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    ericb4prez wrote: »
    So McCoy got the same numbers and he missed games smh

    Murray missed a game too.

    Matthews is a backup.

    ??

    Edit: He said Shady is still better than both of them. They each are performing better than Shady thus far, so obviously collectively they are ? on him while being cheaper.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    shieky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    If your record is worst then the moves ain't working.

    Says the guy who called Bradford good.

    From now on, that will be my only response to you. You've earned it.

    I can't be wrong?

    Everybody in here been wrong before.
  • purpngold
    purpngold Members Posts: 7,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    indy might really be 3-7 and leading their division the afc south is so damn bad
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    shieky wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    If your record is worst then the moves ain't working.

    Says the guy who called Bradford good.

    From now on, that will be my only response to you. You've earned it.

    I can't be wrong?

    Everybody in here been wrong before.

    Ima hold you to the standard you are holding Chip Kelly to. Fair?
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    For the record, I have no problem with people being wrong. Having opinions I highly disagree with or stating unfounded facts. I have a problem with them doing it over and over again, with conviction.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    shieky wrote: »
    For the record, I have no problem with people being wrong. Having opinions I highly disagree with or stating unfounded facts. I have a problem with them doing it over and over again, with conviction.

    How am I wrong?

    Is y'all offense not worst?

    Is y'all record worst at this point then last year
  • shieky
    shieky Members Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    shieky wrote: »
    For the record, I have no problem with people being wrong. Having opinions I highly disagree with or stating unfounded facts. I have a problem with them doing it over and over again, with conviction.

    How am I wrong?

    Is y'all offense not worst?

    Is y'all record worst at this point then last year

    Wrong about Bradford. We spent too much time in the off season debating his merits.

    Wrong about this.
    He didn't let Maclin walk.

    He took the same contract from the Chiefs that Philly offered.

    And this.
    No coach in the NFL gets talked about by his former players then chip.

    And all this.
    All those dudes was doing that damn thing all on the same team for years.

    The two Olineman is better then their replacements

    Cary Williams is doing better this his replacement

    Shady is still better then both his replacements

    Cole is still a better end rusher then his replacement.

    And this.
    All them ? had y'all winning and now they are gon y'all not winning.

    Simple.

    It all Falls back on one person.



    Got damn.

    To finally answer your questions. Yes the offense is bad and worse than last year thus far. The defense however is much better, thanks to moves by Chip. You can't mention one without the other.

    Yes the record is worse as well. The colts are also finding out that adding/removing a lot of pieces can be potentially harmful. Yet you only get on Chip. Why?
  • ericb4prez
    ericb4prez Members Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    shieky wrote: »
    ericb4prez wrote: »
    So McCoy got the same numbers and he missed games smh

    Murray missed a game too.

    Matthews is a backup.

    ??

    Edit: He said Shady is still better than both of them. They each are performing better than Shady thus far, so obviously collectively they are ? on him while being cheaper.

    Shady missed 2 games and y'all play uptempo so its more chances for them to get the ball, for his numbers to be the same should be a red flag

    Demarco got 10 more carries for 3 more yards lmao
  • ericb4prez
    ericb4prez Members Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The difference between the eagles and the colts is that the coach actually wanted to draft linemen and pieces to build a complete team but the gm jus gettin weapons for luck which is why he got into an argument with the owner after the saints game