MGTOW- Men going their own Way
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desertrain10 wrote: »desertrain10 wrote: »I don't think it's spite, tho. You don't have to hate women in order to preach male independence. I love my queen, but I also understand the need to not depend on her, nor succumb to her trying to control me. That's why I respect her, cause she doesn't try.
Some men haven't - nor ever will - understand that. They ARE used to the idea that if they never get married, and have children, they're looked at as a failure, and end up as "slaves" to the social spectrum. This is a total double standard, considering that women get encourages to live that "independent" life they're already preaching about.
What are u talking about
Since forever girls are expected and encouraged to grow up to become mothers, wives, care givers, etc
You can look no further than the baby dolls and kitchen play sets that are marketed towards girls
Women who are single and have no kids past a certain age are frowned upon ...assumed to be defective
Men can be single and be childless well into their forties and fifties, no one thinks any less of them....they are just being men, waiting on the right girl, enjoying life, etc
This is false. Men who are lifelong bachelors are assumed to be creeps and losers because socially a woman validates a man.
Men can be well into their forties and fifties before they settle down, no one bats an eye
Once a woman hits forty maybe even 35 and has no kids and no ring, she must be "crazy", in the closet or defective in some way
However there's some truth in the statement we condition boys to believe they must be on the constant search for a woman to have sex with in order to prove their value as men
There is bsolute truth to that statement. A man isn't validated unless females ? with them.
"This ? gets no hoes" Worst thing you can say about a ? really.
Even ? ? had to get validation and acceptance from females before society openly rocked with them.
It's rare as al ? for a female to be unattached to a partner or children that late in life. If she is who gonna say something to her besides her family? Nobody.
A man can settle down later in life with younger women because as he gets older and remains single no children his stock steadily increases. He has more money, is smarter, more experienced in the game (in theory) He creates new sperm all the way up until he dies.
A female is born with all her eggs so her stock starts peaks at 25 and is on a steady decline from there. She hit 35-40 range nobody who trying to start a family is trying to ? with her on that level because she got old ass eggs.
However this argument is neither here nor there because there are no spinster laws in the US so there's no policy working against her. In fact a woman who remains single and childless has more job opportunity than a man and will make more money than a man throughout her career. -
Malcolm Xtra wrote: »Malcolm Xtra wrote: »This sort of movement is interesting. Interesting in the fact that most of the men who take part in such appear to be non-alpha men, who are suffering from neurosis and ? envy. The root of the movement appear to be more of a trajectory attack on western women. Yet, whats very interesting is that the men in the movement appear to want Eastern European women and Asian women. I have been on some of their forums and websites, and their ideal woman is a woman who will basically serve them, who they can basically dictate.
Whats very interesting about this movement is that on these MGTOW centered websites their is a huge amount of racism thats projected towards black women; by black men, white, Asian, Arab, Indian, Hispanic men ect. Referring to black women as masculine, beast, ? ect. Yet, the black men on these websites sit back and allow non-black men to call the women of their race subhumans.
Yet, whats more interesting is that on these MGTOW centered sites is that once Black men project the desire to one to be with non-black women, the non-black men on such site spew hate at black men for wanting to date their women. So it appears that just like the feminist movement of not including black women, this movement really does not include black men. Black men are only included when they are being hateful to black women.
Truthfully, these sort of movements are always hilarious because as someone who have traveled men always feel their women are inadequate, and that women from elsewhere are better. While men in America say American women are trash, men outside of America are obsessed with American women. Its really the concept of thinking "else where is better."
I watched a MGTOW video of an Asian guy who doesn't like Asian women basically complaining because he want white women, but he can't get one, so he basically joined this movement. This is generally the behavior of most of its members. Men who aren't getting as much sex as they would like, men who can't afford to do things to get a woman, men who were nerds in high school and still can't get ? , men who want a woman to walk back into the 1800s.
It's nothing more Alpha then a man who says I'm doing my own thing and I will ? with u hoes on my terms...it makes perfect sense to target submissive women and leave Alpha women alone...
But like another poster said the movement seems to be more about men focusing on themselves...who said women needed to be taken care of and provided for and all that other ? that makes men slaves to women...then on top of that the system goes in the favor of the woman if some ? pop off in a marriage...
U generalized a whole movement of men that come from different backgrounds and tried to ? their backs....what's your agenda?
You already know what her agenda is. She is a female and cannot act above her nature. She must discredit in order to keep her personal world view in tact. MGTOW is a philosophy not a group. It will appeal to men of all types.
What you and like minded minions fail to realize is that I view men the same way the majority of you all view women. I have 3 degrees, a VERY good paying job (I make more money than the average black man), I have good credit, and a nice home that I own in the suburbs. I don't need no man living off of what I have. Most men can't do anything for me besides give me money and give me ? . However, the great majority of contemporary men don't know how to ? , and the majority of you all are broke. I pick my men like I pick my cars or a new pet. The darker and more African featured a man is the more psychological problems he has and the more broke he is. This is why I only let light skin and mixed race ? touch my walls. So what ever theory you all think you can come up with to win do that, because truth be told when it comes to men from your stock most women only want sex anyway. Most women don't even believe you all are predisposed with the intellectual properties to maintain a marriage or a relationship outside of sex; you're only good for a ? , and when your done don't call me after.
I like sleeping in my king size bed alone, watching netflix movies alone. When I need some ? I'll call one of the ? in my phone to massage my walls, and when he's done he knows to get the ? out.
I thought you said you were married?
Smh....and she say she only mess wit light skin ? .
Light skin ? is letting this hoe do and say whatever she wanna do.....? married and ? wit other ? ....this ? think she a man but that emotion keep holding her back.
she lying ? . stop feeding trolls in this thread. -
Zulu, I'm glad for your successes in life. You have every right to get your man based on income. Most men actually believe in "real love" but we've found out that women don't actually really love men at all.
https://youtu.be/i-psXvt7MF0
That doesn't make it good or bad, right or wrong. It's just nature. Something most men should know. -
How many other mgtows are on this site I wonder.
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This is the counter measure to feminism.
And just like feminism, this is for white people. -
I don't like the label of MGTOW, but I share the philosophy not down to the tee, there are some things I disagree with
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There are black MGTOWS This guy droppin gems...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WiUGQ0QB6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdl2r1mbdy0 -
This is the counter measure to feminism.
And just like feminism, this is for white people.
Mgtow is actually nothing like feminism. Feminism seeks to change society, creating a more equal male female gender relationship thus create a more equal society*
Mgtow means Men Going There Own Way in other words the MGTOW philosophy advocates for men to drop out of all the societal expectations of The male sex regarding the female sex. -
When you boil it all down they barking up the same tree.
Taking a stand against gender expectations.
There are black feminist too, doesnt change what i said.
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When you boil it all down they barking up the same tree.
Taking a stand against gender expectations.
There are black feminist too, doesnt change what i said.
IT CHANGES EVERYTHING. The two ideologies are totally different.
also the concept that certain ideologies are only for certain races of people makes no sense; unless these ideologies expressly state that they are for one race then they can and maybe should be applied to all people. Is democracy only for white people??? how about capitalism or socialism -
The fact that a movement like this even exists says a lot. Men need to man up.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »The fact that a movement like this even exists says a lot. Men need to man up.
what do you think it says??? and since when have men not manned up -
not all black women are bad but it is more aint ? women in our race than others. But all races got aint ? people those videos posted makes the dude seem hella bitter
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Men need to realize that ultimately you are in control. Women follow your steps. Mgtow implies that you aren't in control.
I'm not going to go any further than that... Life is Good...I love my women, wouldn't want to live without them... -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The fact that a movement like this even exists says a lot. Men need to man up.
what do you think it says??? and since when have men not manned up
From the OP:Anyone hear of it or seen any videos on youtube? Seems to be a growing movement among men.
MGTOW (”Men Going Their Own Way”) is a way of life which refuses to defer to women in defining the worth of men. Instead, it focuses on positive male aspects, inviting men to go their own way in life.
When have men deferred to women in defining their own self worth? When did men need to dwell on positive aspects of men? When did men need to be invited to go their own way? This ? sounds like the male version of feminism, like some petty "If they have a movement, we need a movement too" type ? . If you need a movement just to do the ? that you should already be doing as a man, you're not manned up. You're being a ? .
This gender wars ? is stupid. If men were being the leaders we were supposed to be, we'd be deading it altogether, not getting on some ? for tat ? . -
Just happen to stumble across this brother's podcast about MGTOW last night.
http://youtu.be/9XgyMH6BKCs
I listen to some of his content from time to time. He seems fairly balanced most the time -
This pretty simple too me. There gon be times you have to stand alone without a woman most likely. Not including family. I been single way more than not. No complaints about that either. I go my own way thats not the same as swearing off women its just life. What would the alternative be? Always needing a woman? Thats a no go...That said for me its more of just life instead of a movement. Never had a goal to be married or even shacked up thats just me. I always went my own way and aint trying to change. If it aint for you, move on keep the anger at the next man though just cause he smart enough not to get caught up smh.
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Also the secret is out. All men who have any sense and dealt with enough women know they bring all kinda nonsense and ridiculousness. Hence MGTow in all its different incarnations.
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Been watching these videos from this dude "sandman" for the past hour at work.
Lot of truth there, but some of this is some he-man woman haters club stuff. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The fact that a movement like this even exists says a lot. Men need to man up.
what do you think it says??? and since when have men not manned up
From the OP:Anyone hear of it or seen any videos on youtube? Seems to be a growing movement among men.
MGTOW (”Men Going Their Own Way”) is a way of life which refuses to defer to women in defining the worth of men. Instead, it focuses on positive male aspects, inviting men to go their own way in life.
When have men deferred to women in defining their own self worth? When did men need to dwell on positive aspects of men? post feminism When did men need to be invited to go their own way? Post feminism This ? sounds like the male version of feminism, like some petty "If they have a movement, we need a movement too" type ? . If you need a movement just to do the ? that you should already be doing as a man, you're not manned up. You're being a ? .
This gender wars ? is stupid. If men were being the leaders we were supposed to be, we'd be deading it altogether, not getting on some ? for tat ? .
Traditionally men were not considered real men until they got married so our relationship with women has always defined our worth. why do you think in movies they always ask a man if he has a wife or children before they send him on a suicide mission??? well it's not just in the movies mgtow argues that men with wives were valued more by traditional mainstream society because society needed that man to provide resources for that woman. Now post feminism the role of men has basically been replaced by the state , therefore men are no longer really needed but we continue to try and fit into our old gender role even if it is have disastrous effects on our lives
The comparison of Mgtow to feminism makes no ? sense at all they are really diametrically oppose ideologies. Feminism engages society mgtow is about not engaging with society. Now i am not mgtow but i do understand what they are talking about You just mischaracterized the whole ideology, mgtow is not M.R.A. what we should be doing as men is what mgtow questions. You say men are supposed to be leaders but post feminism that notion is considered antiquated by mainstream society
Mgtow is not a men's rights movement. MRA is analogousness to feminism. Mgtow is not a movement is seems to be just a new social ideology. -
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I Am Jay ? wrote: »There are black MGTOWS This guy droppin gems...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WiUGQ0QB6khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdl2r1mbdy0
I remember hearing about this ? a few months back.
lol@ making youtube videos with just a black screen.
Dude must not want anybody finding out about his views.
Surprised he didn't use the computer-generated voice to hide his real voice. -
Yo, I don't know why........but this ? had me cracking up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyEmeeikXOg
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Yo, I don't know why........but this ? had me cracking up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyEmeeikXOg
All jokes aside, everything dude's saying is true. -
Yo, I don't know why........but this ? had me cracking up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyEmeeikXOg
All jokes aside, everything dude's saying is true.
Dude wasn't lying.....
It's a lot of one-sided finger pointing though. Look we all know that these hoes aint ? . The enablers(Simps/Tricks) need to be held equally responsible. They're just as much at fault for the fuckery.
