RZA Says Dressing Better Could Prevent Police Harassment And All Lives Matter
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mind you once again @Black_Thunder ?
is the same dude who was a ok with the lil black girl getting macho maned out her chair
stop going back with this ? hes like a bizzaro atlantedone but still a ? ? him stop responding to that confused ? ? -
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He criticizes people getting shot /assaulted for not dressing like a GQ ad while they go about their daily lives....
The same people he made millions off of while dressed like one of them
I think ya'll are misrepresenting what he's saying. He's not really criticizing victims for how they dressed.“When you think about some of the brothers who are being brutalized by the police, you also got to have them take a look, and us take a look, in the mirror, at the image we portray. If I’m a cop and every time I see a young black youth, whether I watch them on TV, movies, or just see them hanging out, and they’re not looking properly dressed, properly refined, you know, carrying himself, conducting himself proper hours of the day—things that a man does, you’re going to have a certain fear and stereotype of them,” he espoused.
Here he's basically just saying that if every time you see a black male with a certain look, be it on tv or in real life, that male is always up to no good, it's only natural that some fear or stereotyping will arise from that. That's absolutely true and not even isolated to black people. As a white dude with a bald head that likes boots and camo if he's ever been mistaken for a Skinhead. That ? happens. He didn't say anywhere that people were wrong for dressing that way. He just said that if we push that image in a way that associates it with negativity, people will eventually come to stereotype everyone who fits that mold. Again, that is 100% true, right or wrong, that's the way of the world. Where I think he's wrong is that he seems to imply that we have more power in pushing that image than we actually do. While I agree the we do bear some of the blame (Ironically ? rapper are probably the worst culprits), the white media is far more responsible for promoting those negative stereotypes.“I tell my sons, I say, if you’re going somewhere, you don’t have to wear a hoodie–we live in New York, so a hoodie and all that is all good. But sometimes, you know, button up your shirt. Clean up. Look like a young man. You’re not a little kid, you know what I mean? I think that’s another big issue we gotta pay attention to. Is the image that we portray that could invoke a fear into a white officer, or any officer,” he continued.
For the most part, what he's saying here is not wrong either. Every responsible parent teaches their children this regardless of race. You think white people teach their kids to go into business meetings in whatever casual style of clothing white kids wear these days? Of course not, they teach their kids the same thing that there is a time and place for everything.
I'm not saying Rza is right. We have more than enough evidence out there to know that being well dressed does not save black people from police brutality, but ya'll are misrepresenting what he's saying just so you guys can go on the standard "? rants" that you seem to love so much. He didn't say that Tamir Rice got shot because Rice was dressed like a thug. He said unfortunately certain images of black males have been put out there negatively and you have to know that if you put on that image it will attract negative attention. Right or wrong, that is 100% true. A lot of white people associate dreadlocks with thuggery. Does that mean blacks should stop wearing that hairstyle? Hell no. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that it may attract some negative attention.
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tompetrez3 wrote: »I never in a million years thought i would say this but ? RZA and Wu Tang
Why ? wu tang? lol -
This is pretty strange. Ghostface always wear hood ? . He talked bout Ghost aswell? lol
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nothing wrong with what RZA said. He's talking about perception and reality, he's also talking about maturity too.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »He criticizes people getting shot /assaulted for not dressing like a GQ ad while they go about their daily lives....
The same people he made millions off of while dressed like one of them
I think ya'll are misrepresenting what he's saying. He's not really criticizing victims for how they dressed.“When you think about some of the brothers who are being brutalized by the police, you also got to have them take a look, and us take a look, in the mirror, at the image we portray. If I’m a cop and every time I see a young black youth, whether I watch them on TV, movies, or just see them hanging out, and they’re not looking properly dressed, properly refined, you know, carrying himself, conducting himself proper hours of the day—things that a man does, you’re going to have a certain fear and stereotype of them,” he espoused.
Here he's basically just saying that if every time you see a black male with a certain look, be it on tv or in real life, that male is always up to no good, it's only natural that some fear or stereotyping will arise from that. That's absolutely true and not even isolated to black people. As a white dude with a bald head that likes boots and camo if he's ever been mistaken for a Skinhead. That ? happens. He didn't say anywhere that people were wrong for dressing that way. He just said that if we push that image in a way that associates it with negativity, people will eventually come to stereotype everyone who fits that mold. Again, that is 100% true, right or wrong, that's the way of the world. Where I think he's wrong is that he seems to imply that we have more power in pushing that image than we actually do. While I agree the we do bear some of the blame (Ironically ? rapper are probably the worst culprits), the white media is far more responsible for promoting those negative stereotypes.“I tell my sons, I say, if you’re going somewhere, you don’t have to wear a hoodie–we live in New York, so a hoodie and all that is all good. But sometimes, you know, button up your shirt. Clean up. Look like a young man. You’re not a little kid, you know what I mean? I think that’s another big issue we gotta pay attention to. Is the image that we portray that could invoke a fear into a white officer, or any officer,” he continued.
For the most part, what he's saying here is not wrong either. Every responsible parent teaches their children this regardless of race. You think white people teach their kids to go into business meetings in whatever casual style of clothing white kids wear these days? Of course not, they teach their kids the same thing that there is a time and place for everything.
I'm not saying Rza is right. We have more than enough evidence out there to know that being well dressed does not save black people from police brutality, but ya'll are misrepresenting what he's saying just so you guys can go on the standard "? rants" that you seem to love so much. He didn't say that Tamir Rice got shot because Rice was dressed like a thug. He said unfortunately certain images of black males have been put out there negatively and you have to know that if you put on that image it will attract negative attention. Right or wrong, that is 100% true. A lot of white people associate dreadlocks with thuggery. Does that mean blacks should stop wearing that hairstyle? Hell no. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that it may attract some negative attention.
My post while shorter was synonymous to yours.
Problem is the majority only skimmed the thread title. Which is a total frabrication. But thats how these things work nowadays.
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supergangster wrote: »tompetrez3 wrote: »I never in a million years thought i would say this but ? RZA and Wu Tang
Why ? wu tang? lol
Cause Wu tang is a ? group like the roots at end of day. Wu tang been making music for white boys since 2000. Wu tang shows are 99% neanderthals. How they ? they preaching 5% ? shucking and jiving on stage for these white folks that only know them because of Jimmy Fallon mashups. Masta killa married a white woman. ? ? it up by playing a absent minded ? addict. Ghost embarrassed himself on VH1 acting like a savage with no home training by throwing black women under the bus. RZA is QT pet name ? and hasn't made a hot beat since the 90s. RZA always hated black folks though. Read his comments about black southerners. He hates us more than the white men down here. RZA stole from more ? Birdman Yeah that ? raekwon did to buddens was weak like what happened to durk homeboy. I see why ODB stopped ? with these ? in late 90s. I'm Screwed Up Click 4 life ? a Wu tang. I'm glad Screw ain't put none of these ? on his tapes. I will never listen to wu again -
soul rattler wrote: »?
Will this be the thread where ? will finally turn on Wu Tang? Will the 2 1/2 decade long stanfest finally come to a screeching halt?
Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z.
Yo... if we're going by a DBZ time line, 2 1/2 more decades is how long it's gonna take to find out if it's really "? Wu-Tang."
I think it's just "? punk ass RZA" at this point. -
I won't comment on the clothes issue but I'll never understand why some people have such a huge issue with 'All Lives Matter' and using that in replace of 'BLM'. I don't understand what's so outrageous about saying that all lives, which by definition includes black lives, matter. How are people genuinely offended by this?
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I just planned on rereading his Tao of Wu book again too. Welp...
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That's the real reason.tompetrez3 wrote: »supergangster wrote: »tompetrez3 wrote: »I never in a million years thought i would say this but ? RZA and Wu Tang
Why ? wu tang? lol
Cause Wu tang is a ? group like the roots at end of day. Wu tang been making music for white boys since 2000. Wu tang shows are 99% neanderthals. How they ? they preaching 5% ? shucking and jiving on stage for these white folks that only know them because of Jimmy Fallon mashups. Masta killa married a white woman. ? ? it up by playing a absent minded ? addict. Ghost embarrassed himself on VH1 acting like a savage with no home training by throwing black women under the bus. RZA is QT pet name ? and hasn't made a hot beat since the 90s. RZA always hated black folks though. Read his comments about black southerners. He hates us more than the white men down here. RZA stole from more ? Birdman Yeah that ? raekwon did to buddens was weak like what happened to durk homeboy. I see why ODB stopped ? with these ? in late 90s. I'm Screwed Up Click 4 life ? a Wu tang. I'm glad Screw ain't put none of these ? on his tapes. I will never listen to wu again
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Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »mind you once again @Black_Thunder ?
is the same dude who was a ok with the lil black girl getting macho maned out her chair
stop going back with this ? hes like a bizzaro atlantedone but still a ? ? him stop responding to that confused ? ?
Keep my name out your mouth and off your keyboard ? unless you ready to run a ? fair one ? , following me around like some ? who's number I blocked, get off my ? . -
I get what the brother was trying to say.
He just said it horribly. -
? ? never happened.
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No way to justify being killed by cops for what you're wearing.
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hiphop12345 wrote: »
That's the real reason.tompetrez3 wrote: »supergangster wrote: »tompetrez3 wrote: »I never in a million years thought i would say this but ? RZA and Wu Tang
Why ? wu tang? lol
Cause Wu tang is a ? group like the roots at end of day. Wu tang been making music for white boys since 2000. Wu tang shows are 99% neanderthals. How they ? they preaching 5% ? shucking and jiving on stage for these white folks that only know them because of Jimmy Fallon mashups. Masta killa married a white woman. ? ? it up by playing a absent minded ? addict. Ghost embarrassed himself on VH1 acting like a savage with no home training by throwing black women under the bus. RZA is QT pet name ? and hasn't made a hot beat since the 90s. RZA always hated black folks though. Read his comments about black southerners. He hates us more than the white men down here. RZA stole from more ? Birdman Yeah that ? raekwon did to buddens was weak like what happened to durk homeboy. I see why ODB stopped ? with these ? in late 90s. I'm Screwed Up Click 4 life ? a Wu tang. I'm glad Screw ain't put none of these ? on his tapes. I will never listen to wu again
Nah wu tang been on ? the whole millennium. They act like they too good to perform together in America but go over to all them smelly crag countries in Europe and put on shows. They act like they too good to drop new music. They let all these white comedians make fun of concept of wu tang and be laughing right there with them that's why Bronson came sideways at ghost because the clan carry themselves like a caricature. Thats why ? be throwing ? at they shows rushing the stage they not commanding respect anymore. Wu tang is a white boy group for same rackers who love kid Rock and will vote for trump. Wu tang perform for all lives matter supporters.They stopped giving a ? about the black fans once white festival money started pouring in around 2000. It's not just wu tang I stopped ? with mobb deep midget ? too because Prodigy and havoc let they ? ass homeboy alchemist say they same ? RZA talking. I'm not supporting soft ass NY ? who fear white folks and need white approval. ? wu tang and mobb deep. Prodigy, GZA and Ghost off my top 5 list. Spice 1 my new undisputed GOAT
1. Spice 1
2. Lil Flip
3. 2Pac
4. Canibus
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5th Letter wrote: »A Talented One wrote: »What he said is not entirely true, and moreover it was a ? up thing to say in this context.
Nevertheless, he's right that how you dress, etc. can make a difference. But it doesn't always make a difference. It would be foolish to say that it doesn't make a difference because it doesn't always make a difference.
And, of course, whether it makes a difference is a different issue from whether we ought to be doing that to avoid police harassment. We shouldn't. As I have written on here many times before, I'm against dressing up to avoid racism and discrimination. But you're wrong if you think that dressing up doesn't help at all.
If only black people can change their skin to white then we wouldn't have to worry about this at all right?
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He's just lost touch with reality.
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I hate these new negros.
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tompetrez3 wrote: »hiphop12345 wrote: »
That's the real reason.tompetrez3 wrote: »supergangster wrote: »tompetrez3 wrote: »I never in a million years thought i would say this but ? RZA and Wu Tang
Why ? wu tang? lol
Cause Wu tang is a ? group like the roots at end of day. Wu tang been making music for white boys since 2000. Wu tang shows are 99% neanderthals. How they ? they preaching 5% ? shucking and jiving on stage for these white folks that only know them because of Jimmy Fallon mashups. Masta killa married a white woman. ? ? it up by playing a absent minded ? addict. Ghost embarrassed himself on VH1 acting like a savage with no home training by throwing black women under the bus. RZA is QT pet name ? and hasn't made a hot beat since the 90s. RZA always hated black folks though. Read his comments about black southerners. He hates us more than the white men down here. RZA stole from more ? Birdman Yeah that ? raekwon did to buddens was weak like what happened to durk homeboy. I see why ODB stopped ? with these ? in late 90s. I'm Screwed Up Click 4 life ? a Wu tang. I'm glad Screw ain't put none of these ? on his tapes. I will never listen to wu again
Nah wu tang been on ? the whole millennium. They act like they too good to perform together in America but go over to all them smelly crag countries in Europe and put on shows. They act like they too good to drop new music. They let all these white comedians make fun of concept of wu tang and be laughing right there with them that's why Bronson came sideways at ghost because the clan carry themselves like a caricature. Thats why ? be throwing ? at they shows rushing the stage they not commanding respect anymore. Wu tang is a white boy group for same rackers who love kid Rock and will vote for trump. Wu tang perform for all lives matter supporters.They stopped giving a ? about the black fans once white festival money started pouring in around 2000. It's not just wu tang I stopped ? with mobb deep midget ? too because Prodigy and havoc let they ? ass homeboy alchemist say they same ? RZA talking. I'm not supporting soft ass NY ? who fear white folks and need white approval. ? wu tang and mobb deep. Prodigy, GZA and Ghost off my top 5 list. Spice 1 my new undisputed GOAT
1. Spice 1
2. Lil Flip
3. 2Pac
4. Canibus
5. Fat Pat
Whatafuck lol. -
By RZA's own logic, the police should have been killed the entire Wu by now and got away with it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZ8xICliQA
