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Scarface doing volunteer work for Bernie
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Bernie will say yes to reparations. He says yes to everything.
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Both of you arent understanding
Regardless of what that man's feelings WERE and how he USED to move---when relatively speaking no one knew who tha ? he was--- in order to play ball and get to the big boy stage to where we're even talking about him, he aligned himself as a DEMOCRAT
He is not Rand Paul. Rand Paul didn't convert, therefore Rand Paul is where he is, everyone's favorite outsider. No shot in hell
Bernie Sanders is no longer an outsider.
Not only do you align with democratic voters, you align with the democratic establishment. U think these mfers pledge millions so he can do wtf he want? Llls He now owes 100 favors.
That illuminati bs people speak of is real, its just not formal and its not literal.
Who pledged millions?? Dude don't even have a super pac..thats how I know you not paying attention like that
He has Super Pacs. They just don't claim to be Super Pacs because Sanders denounces such activities.Take National Nurses United, the largest nurses’ union in the U.S. The group endorsed Sanders for president back in August. Its political arm—National Nurses United for Patient Protection—has so far spent more than $550,000 in support of Bernie Sanders, including doling out money for print and digital advertising. The group qualifies as a super PAC, according to the Federal Election Commission. Union organizers, however, reject that name.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/bernie-sanders-super-pac/420930/ -
Both of you arent understanding
Regardless of what that man's feelings WERE and how he USED to move---when relatively speaking no one knew who tha ? he was--- in order to play ball and get to the big boy stage to where we're even talking about him, he aligned himself as a DEMOCRAT
He is not Rand Paul. Rand Paul didn't convert, therefore Rand Paul is where he is, everyone's favorite outsider. No shot in hell
Bernie Sanders is no longer an outsider.
Not only do you align with democratic voters, you align with the democratic establishment. U think these mfers pledge millions so he can do wtf he want? Llls He now owes 100 favors.
That illuminati bs people speak of is real, its just not formal and its not literal.
Who pledged millions?? Dude don't even have a super pac..thats how I know you not paying attention like that
Geez. So he's not gettitn any ? money
from 'the establishment'... So he's spending his own money on an entire presidential campaign . ..so he's GOING to spend his own money vs Donald Trump ? And win!?!?! Lls
This ? said Bernie runnin off bake sales and car washes.
Ya world. U got it.
You're not paying attention, just kicking a bunch of empty rhetoric on how you "feel." Which is not fact, so shut the ? up. -
MarcusGarvey wrote: »All that political nonsense y'all talking about are missing the point,
Two most important things are
•Budget - who's going to reduce the 500b annual deficit ( Id prefer cuts all across the board, especially defence)
•War/Peace - Presidential powers have grown over the last 20 years without restraint, Obama been better than most but still prone to fuckery with his drone wars
you won't get an answer to your question until all this political nonsense plays out some more and that point cannot be missed.
I'm not going to menstruate about guns, abortions, or how I want a president to be strong and belligerent like Putin - I am fully aware of the limits of government. Govt cannot remedy moral failures, they can't solve everything, it sets the risk free rate. In most countries with a functioning democracy, govts pass a budget and disappear from the headlines for a year unless there's some scandal. I understand America has the additional burden of a $500b defense dept, but my focus are incentivizing labor, savings, investing aka the budget. 17 trillion in debt and everyone is instead arguing about Megyn Kelly, Ayn Rand and other nonsense. The US is out of a recession, time to turn off the deficit spending. -
Lets ask Hillary about reparations...better yet lets ask Trump.
That's not a fair comparison because Hillary isn't promising a bunch of dramatic ? that would be damn near impossible to pass even WITH 70 democratic senators and 300 progressive congressmen. That's the point.
Free College isn't politically feasible.
Single Payer isn't politically feasible.
And Reparations isn't politically feasible.
But yet he gonna cape for the first two while casually dismissing the last one as a pipe dream? Oh so NOW you a pragmatist, huh? FOH. He needed a difference answer to that question than one that reminds me that a 74 year old cracka socialist is still a 74 year old cracka.....
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Swiffness! wrote: »Lets ask Hillary about reparations...better yet lets ask Trump.
That's not a fair comparison because Hillary isn't promising a bunch of dramatic ? that would be damn near impossible to pass even WITH 70 democratic senators and 300 progressive congressmen. That's the point.
Free College isn't politically feasible.
Single Payer isn't politically feasible.
And Reparations isn't politically feasible.
But yet he gonna cape for the first two while casually dismissing the last one as a pipe dream? Oh so NOW you a pragmatist, huh? FOH. He needed a difference answer to that question than one that reminds me that a 74 year old cracka socialist is still a 74 year old cracka.....
You don't eat an elephant in one whole bite. A step towards those policies at a time is sufficient. Most of those things can be achieved at the state level but as usual the feds have to get the ball rolling.
Trying >>>> not trying
Every single time. I don't disagree with it being a pipedream but its better to dream for a greater tomorrow than the same thing weve had yesterday.
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What Congress is going to approve Reparations?
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Bernie would lose the general election it would be like John Kerry all over again
If Bernie becomes the democratic nominee, then Bloomberg will be the next president. -
Both of you arent understanding
Regardless of what that man's feelings WERE and how he USED to move---when relatively speaking no one knew who tha ? he was--- in order to play ball and get to the big boy stage to where we're even talking about him, he aligned himself as a DEMOCRAT
He is not Rand Paul. Rand Paul didn't convert, therefore Rand Paul is where he is, everyone's favorite outsider. No shot in hell
Bernie Sanders is no longer an outsider.
Not only do you align with democratic voters, you align with the democratic establishment. U think these mfers pledge millions so he can do wtf he want? Llls He now owes 100 favors.
That illuminati bs people speak of is real, its just not formal and its not literal.
Who pledged millions?? Dude don't even have a super pac..thats how I know you not paying attention like that
Geez. So he's not gettitn any ? money
from 'the establishment'... So he's spending his own money on an entire presidential campaign . ..so he's GOING to spend his own money vs Donald Trump ? And win!?!?! Lls
This ? said Bernie runnin off bake sales and car washes.
Ya world. U got it.
His own money?
Stop embarrasing yourself. These are grown men conversations.
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The same Bloomberg that ran NY? That plans to run as Indy? Nah.
Honestly, Hillary will likely win and nothing will change.
Bernie is this election's Ron Paul. He gets people excited because he's principled and he isn't scared of divisive issues for the most part but like Ron Paul the "establishment" doesn't want any part of him.
Ron Paul shot himself in the foot by railing against bailing out Wall St. Despite being a moronic Randian (and a closet racist) he would have at least prevented things from getting much worse.
Bernie might not be able to pass everything he wants but theres no doubt he would veto alot of the trash Obama signed. Whether Congress overrides is irrelevant, the veto tells the public his opinion on a piece legislation.
Without a Bernie or Ron Paul these elections will literally just be bootlickers saying whatever to get themselves elected. Its already at that point but there are no strong principled individuals running to keep them honest.
Our only hope is Elizabeth Warren stops with the ? and runs, I would gladly volunteer to help her campaign. -
MarcusGarvey wrote: »MarcusGarvey wrote: »All that political nonsense y'all talking about are missing the point,
Two most important things are
•Budget - who's going to reduce the 500b annual deficit ( Id prefer cuts all across the board, especially defence)
•War/Peace - Presidential powers have grown over the last 20 years without restraint, Obama been better than most but still prone to fuckery with his drone wars
you won't get an answer to your question until all this political nonsense plays out some more and that point cannot be missed.
I'm not going to menstruate about guns, abortions, or how I want a president to be strong and belligerent like Putin - I am fully aware of the limits of government. Govt cannot remedy moral failures, they can't solve everything, it sets the risk free rate. In most countries with a functioning democracy, govts pass a budget and disappear from the headlines for a year unless there's some scandal. I understand America has the additional burden of a $500b defense dept, but my focus are incentivizing labor, savings, investing aka the budget. 17 trillion in debt and everyone is instead arguing about Megyn Kelly, Ayn Rand and other nonsense. The US is out of a recession, time to turn off the deficit spending.
we are not going to get to that or figure out who is going to do a that until the other things are debated first, the things you consider to be nonsense are very important to other people.
social issues are just as important as the debt issue you seem to care so much about -
"Free College" is why I think in 20 years the college degree will become the new "high school diploma" and the Master's Degrees will be the more coveted accreditation to obtain. College is too generalized and nowadays people are living longer and slowly becoming more educated as they pile on debts they may never be able to pay off with their type of jobs (anything outside of finance, medicine, law) their degrees open them too.
Tellin yall man Europe has the blueprint, in Germany some colleges are free and that's going to catch on. Obama got the ball rolling and other politicians will carry it to fruition. The business of education will take a hit but I think what they'll adapt, outside of that the families of the next generation can breath a sigh of relief and save more money for the future to build wealth rather than being slave to their debts.
Hoping Hillary pushes this agenda....
The united states has 300 million people we cannot just copy germany -
Both of you arent understanding
Regardless of what that man's feelings WERE and how he USED to move---when relatively speaking no one knew who tha ? he was--- in order to play ball and get to the big boy stage to where we're even talking about him, he aligned himself as a DEMOCRAT
He is not Rand Paul. Rand Paul didn't convert, therefore Rand Paul is where he is, everyone's favorite outsider. No shot in hell
Bernie Sanders is no longer an outsider.
Not only do you align with democratic voters, you align with the democratic establishment. U think these mfers pledge millions so he can do wtf he want? Llls He now owes 100 favors.
That illuminati bs people speak of is real, its just not formal and its not literal.
Who pledged millions?? Dude don't even have a super pac..thats how I know you not paying attention like that
Geez. So he's not gettitn any ? money
from 'the establishment'... So he's spending his own money on an entire presidential campaign . ..so he's GOING to spend his own money vs Donald Trump ? And win!?!?! Lls
This ? said Bernie runnin off bake sales and car washes.
Ya world. U got it.
So you just like "? facts I just wanna talk ? and drop pictures"
I feel you it bees like that sometimes.
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Both of you arent understanding
Regardless of what that man's feelings WERE and how he USED to move---when relatively speaking no one knew who tha ? he was--- in order to play ball and get to the big boy stage to where we're even talking about him, he aligned himself as a DEMOCRAT
He is not Rand Paul. Rand Paul didn't convert, therefore Rand Paul is where he is, everyone's favorite outsider. No shot in hell
Bernie Sanders is no longer an outsider.
Not only do you align with democratic voters, you align with the democratic establishment. U think these mfers pledge millions so he can do wtf he want? Llls He now owes 100 favors.
That illuminati bs people speak of is real, its just not formal and its not literal.
Who pledged millions?? Dude don't even have a super pac..thats how I know you not paying attention like that
He has Super Pacs. They just don't claim to be Super Pacs because Sanders denounces such activities.Take National Nurses United, the largest nurses’ union in the U.S. The group endorsed Sanders for president back in August. Its political arm—National Nurses United for Patient Protection—has so far spent more than $550,000 in support of Bernie Sanders, including doling out money for print and digital advertising. The group qualifies as a super PAC, according to the Federal Election Commission. Union organizers, however, reject that name.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/bernie-sanders-super-pac/420930/
You can't compare little ? like a nurses union scraping together half a million from its members to hillary clinton's super pac (Priorities USA) which has received 41 million so far, mostly from big ticket millionaire donors. Just not the same thing -
Swiffness! wrote: »Lets ask Hillary about reparations...better yet lets ask Trump.
That's not a fair comparison because Hillary isn't promising a bunch of dramatic ? that would be damn near impossible to pass even WITH 70 democratic senators and 300 progressive congressmen. That's the point.
Free College isn't politically feasible.
Single Payer isn't politically feasible.
And Reparations isn't politically feasible.
But yet he gonna cape for the first two while casually dismissing the last one as a pipe dream? Oh so NOW you a pragmatist, huh? FOH. He needed a difference answer to that question than one that reminds me that a 74 year old cracka socialist is still a 74 year old cracka.....
You don't eat an elephant in one whole bite. A step towards those policies at a time is sufficient. Most of those things can be achieved at the state level but as usual the feds have to get the ball rolling.
Trying >>>> not trying
Every single time. I don't disagree with it being a pipedream but its better to dream for a greater tomorrow than the same thing weve had yesterday.
Agreed. The idea of having a guy at the healm who at least has this mindset can make all the difference. President isn't all powerful of course but they don't call it the bully pulpit for nothing.
Where Obama failed was he tried to come in making deals with people who wouldn't even shake his hand instead of finding ways to maneuver their obstructionism. If Sanders can inspire his populist wave or "political revolution" as he calls it, and harnesses enthusiasm AFTER his election, who knows what could happen.
EDIT: oh and hillary aint gonna be able to get her little measely proposals through congress either so you might as well go with the guy who at least excites the base.
What kind of logic is it to say "oh Bernie will never get what he wants passed through a republican controled congress, so we should vote for Hillary"
Word? The same Hillary that Republicans think should be federally prosecuted for that email ? ? That's who is gonna come in and reach across the aisle and "get things done"?? FOH. Its time to stop trying to work with republicans and start crushing those ? . They're dragging the whole dam country to the right and democrats keep giving them ground with their so-called "deals"
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Swiffness! wrote: »Lets ask Hillary about reparations...better yet lets ask Trump.
That's not a fair comparison because Hillary isn't promising a bunch of dramatic ? that would be damn near impossible to pass even WITH 70 democratic senators and 300 progressive congressmen. That's the point.
Free College isn't politically feasible.
Single Payer isn't politically feasible.
And Reparations isn't politically feasible.
But yet he gonna cape for the first two while casually dismissing the last one as a pipe dream? Oh so NOW you a pragmatist, huh? FOH. He needed a difference answer to that question than one that reminds me that a 74 year old cracka socialist is still a 74 year old cracka.....
You don't eat an elephant in one whole bite. A step towards those policies at a time is sufficient. Most of those things can be achieved at the state level but as usual the feds have to get the ball rolling.
Trying >>>> not trying
Every single time. I don't disagree with it being a pipedream but its better to dream for a greater tomorrow than the same thing weve had yesterday.
Agreed. The idea of having a guy at the healm who at least has this mindset can make all the difference. President isn't all powerful of course but they don't call it the bully pulpit for nothing.
Where Obama failed was he tried to come in making deals with people who wouldn't even shake his hand instead of finding ways to maneuver their obstructionism. If Sanders can inspire his populist wave or "political revolution" as he calls it, and harnesses enthusiasm AFTER his election, who knows what could happen.
What I find funny about this pessimism is that they seem to not realize that Bernie's campaign up until now has been record breaking in its momentum... almost at 3 million individual contributions for his campaign so far. That is literally unheard of. These same ? were probably impressed with Obama's grassroots campaign back in '08.
Realize that bernie has already taken the grassroots movement of Obama to a new level. It's only picking up steam, and Hillary is about to fall behind in iowa, from the huge lead she had mid last year. All facts. -
Swiffness! wrote: »Lets ask Hillary about reparations...better yet lets ask Trump.
That's not a fair comparison because Hillary isn't promising a bunch of dramatic ? that would be damn near impossible to pass even WITH 70 democratic senators and 300 progressive congressmen. That's the point.
Free College isn't politically feasible.
Single Payer isn't politically feasible.
And Reparations isn't politically feasible.
But yet he gonna cape for the first two while casually dismissing the last one as a pipe dream? Oh so NOW you a pragmatist, huh? FOH. He needed a difference answer to that question than one that reminds me that a 74 year old cracka socialist is still a 74 year old cracka.....
You don't eat an elephant in one whole bite. A step towards those policies at a time is sufficient. Most of those things can be achieved at the state level but as usual the feds have to get the ball rolling.
Trying >>>> not trying
Every single time. I don't disagree with it being a pipedream but its better to dream for a greater tomorrow than the same thing weve had yesterday.
Agreed. The idea of having a guy at the healm who at least has this mindset can make all the difference. President isn't all powerful of course but they don't call it the bully pulpit for nothing.
Where Obama failed was he tried to come in making deals with people who wouldn't even shake his hand instead of finding ways to maneuver their obstructionism. If Sanders can inspire his populist wave or "political revolution" as he calls it, and harnesses enthusiasm AFTER his election, who knows what could happen.
What I find funny about this pessimism is that they seem to not realize that Bernie's campaign up until now has been record breaking in its momentum... literally almost at 3 million individual contributions for his campaign so far. That is literally unheard of. These same ? were probably impressed with Obama's grassroots campaign back in '08.
Realize that bernie has already taken the grassroots movement of Obama to a new level. It's only picking up steam, and Hillary is about to fall behind in iowa, from the huge lead she had mid last year. All facts.
Yup because the mainstream media not really blowing it up like they did for Obama's campaign so its like people don't know they're SUPPOSED to be impressed.
Its so obvious how it's rigged though..a big chunk of the largest media corporations are Clinton "Foundation" donors..so they have a vested interest in a certain outcome, so they're going to portray it how they feel they have to
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But Sanders performance, command leaves a lot to be desired.. you cant just rip up ACA.He is getting by on the same "likeability" that Carson was for a very long time
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playmaker88 wrote: »But Sanders performance, command leaves a lot to be desired.. you cant just rip up ACA.He is getting by on the same "likeability" that Carson was for a very long time
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Hillary Clinton will win the election but it won't be a cake walk. Same way Obama beat Romney but it wasn't a sweep (52/48). Trump is going to run a more positive campaign and plant seeds for Hillary to launch a negative campaign with (see Obama vs. Hillary). IF Hillary falls for the bait she may lose, if Trump continues with his barrage of ignorance he will lose, if none of those factors play out I'm thinking Hillary Clinton 55/44 over Trump. I think and I believe 100% that Hillary Clinton will become the 45th President of the United States and the first female President. She will win New York hands down, California, Florida and the major states needed. Even if she gets edged out in the popular vote she will get the delegates - but in order to win the delegates she MUST run a positive campaign. They've already said they will NOT support Trump and that's a good look for Trump.
Hillary will get Obama's endorsement as well as the more notable and needed endorsements.
To add on, Hillary prolly won't take Florida or Texas from Trump but she'll get NJ, CT, AZ, GA and the Carolinas.
Bro, I repeat Trump is not getting ANY states. Funny u think he'll get 1)nominated 2)carry Florida and Texas when both Cubans and Messicans are not voting for him. Cmon b you smarter than that -
Hillary Clinton will win the election but it won't be a cake walk. Same way Obama beat Romney but it wasn't a sweep (52/48). Trump is going to run a more positive campaign and plant seeds for Hillary to launch a negative campaign with (see Obama vs. Hillary). IF Hillary falls for the bait she may lose, if Trump continues with his barrage of ignorance he will lose, if none of those factors play out I'm thinking Hillary Clinton 55/44 over Trump. I think and I believe 100% that Hillary Clinton will become the 45th President of the United States and the first female President. She will win New York hands down, California, Florida and the major states needed. Even if she gets edged out in the popular vote she will get the delegates - but in order to win the delegates she MUST run a positive campaign. They've already said they will NOT support Trump and that's a good look for Trump.
Hillary will get Obama's endorsement as well as the more notable and needed endorsements.
To add on, Hillary prolly won't take Florida or Texas from Trump but she'll get NJ, CT, AZ, GA and the Carolinas.
Bro, I repeat Trump is not getting ANY states. Funny u think he'll get 1)nominated 2)carry Florida and Texas when both Cubans and Messicans are not voting for him. Cmon b you smarter than that
Cosign,if trump gets the nomination he needs Rubio or jeb bush on his ticket because both of them served for the state of Florida and I don't see Rubio or bush joining with trump. -
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Hillary Clinton will win the election but it won't be a cake walk. Same way Obama beat Romney but it wasn't a sweep (52/48). Trump is going to run a more positive campaign and plant seeds for Hillary to launch a negative campaign with (see Obama vs. Hillary). IF Hillary falls for the bait she may lose, if Trump continues with his barrage of ignorance he will lose, if none of those factors play out I'm thinking Hillary Clinton 55/44 over Trump. I think and I believe 100% that Hillary Clinton will become the 45th President of the United States and the first female President. She will win New York hands down, California, Florida and the major states needed. Even if she gets edged out in the popular vote she will get the delegates - but in order to win the delegates she MUST run a positive campaign. They've already said they will NOT support Trump and that's a good look for Trump.
Hillary will get Obama's endorsement as well as the more notable and needed endorsements.
To add on, Hillary prolly won't take Florida or Texas from Trump but she'll get NJ, CT, AZ, GA and the Carolinas.
Bro, I repeat Trump is not getting ANY states. Funny u think he'll get 1)nominated 2)carry Florida and Texas when both Cubans and Messicans are not voting for him. Cmon b you smarter than that
To say he won't get any states is ludicrous, Romney was the epitome of Wall Street and a wolf in sheep's clothing and didn't hide it and only lost to the President by 2 percentage points. It's naive to think for Hillary this will be a cake walk. Florida and Texas have traditionally been carried by Republicans. If Sanders can get states over Hillary, Trump can get a few as well. He won't win but it won't be a duck walk for Hillary.
Can you tell me which states Trump will carry and why? -
Both of you arent understanding
Regardless of what that man's feelings WERE and how he USED to move---when relatively speaking no one knew who tha ? he was--- in order to play ball and get to the big boy stage to where we're even talking about him, he aligned himself as a DEMOCRAT
He is not Rand Paul. Rand Paul didn't convert, therefore Rand Paul is where he is, everyone's favorite outsider. No shot in hell
Bernie Sanders is no longer an outsider.
Not only do you align with democratic voters, you align with the democratic establishment. U think these mfers pledge millions so he can do wtf he want? Llls He now owes 100 favors.
That illuminati bs people speak of is real, its just not formal and its not literal.
Who pledged millions?? Dude don't even have a super pac..thats how I know you not paying attention like that
He has Super Pacs. They just don't claim to be Super Pacs because Sanders denounces such activities.Take National Nurses United, the largest nurses’ union in the U.S. The group endorsed Sanders for president back in August. Its political arm—National Nurses United for Patient Protection—has so far spent more than $550,000 in support of Bernie Sanders, including doling out money for print and digital advertising. The group qualifies as a super PAC, according to the Federal Election Commission. Union organizers, however, reject that name.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/bernie-sanders-super-pac/420930/
You can't compare little ? like a nurses union scraping together half a million from its members to hillary clinton's super pac (Priorities USA) which has received 41 million so far, mostly from big ticket millionaire donors. Just not the same thing
It's still a Super Pac. There are Super Pacs that pull in the same amount regardless of where in came from. Their actions deem them a Super Pac independent from the main compaign, but running ads in support.
