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The only reason Norman is not outright the best cb in the league is because of his handsThe only reason Norman is not outright the best cb in the league is because of his hands
Norman does not have bad hands bruh. Those drops in the Super Bowl were going around that day. -
he shadowed the BEST wr in the game on prime time TV and locked him down . whole game was on Antonio brown.
He held him all day -
Alpha_Ambition wrote: »Wow.
Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards (@nflnetwork research).
How sway?
Julio Jones had 200+ yards against the panthers one game -
Shizlansky wrote: »Alpha_Ambition wrote: »Wow.
Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards (@nflnetwork research).
How sway?
Julio Jones had 200+ yards against the panthers one game
the key is one game !!!
Regis got roasted by Hopkins one game
no CB throws shut outs every game of their life
yall cats got unrealistic expectations -
Shizlansky wrote: »Alpha_Ambition wrote: »Wow.
Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards (@nflnetwork research).
How sway?
Julio Jones had 200+ yards against the panthers one game
So that would tell you he lined up elsewhere, no ? -
Shizlansky wrote: »Alpha_Ambition wrote: »Wow.
Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards (@nflnetwork research).
How sway?
Julio Jones had 200+ yards against the panthers one game
the key is one game !!!
Regis got roasted by Hopkins one game
no CB throws shut outs every game of their life
yall cats got unrealistic expectations
He had a good year. Top 5 year.
But 1 year don't mean you're on that level.
Carson Palmer had a better year than A. Rodgers and Brees. Don't mean he's on their level.
You're only good and should be label one the best of you do it year in year out.
But Ima give props to that defense as a whole. Because any defense that had those two Safetys playing good is crazy.
But Ima say that has more to do with the LBs and pass rush. -
ODB
Julio Jones
D. Hopkins
Roddy White
Probably the best 3 WRs in the league says Norman is a solid CB. Nothing special. They say the tape don't lie. He don't cover WRs. They stay in Cover 2 with help over the top.
I'll take the word of those dudes and gat I seen.
Hell against ODB he was double 13 out of the 16 times Norman covered him. -
CB with big personalities don't get a lot of props from opposing WR cuz they talk trash. can you find me quotes from top WR praising Sherman as the best CB.
you point to the 200 yard game but ask numbaz or any falcon fan...Julio was locked up the previousb3 match ups by Norman -
Shizlansky wrote: »Alpha_Ambition wrote: »Wow.
Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards (@nflnetwork research).
How sway?
Julio Jones had 200+ yards against the panthers one game
So that would tell you he lined up elsewhere, no ?
I watched that second game. JOnes had 7 catches for over 90 yards lined up 1v1 vs Norman.
PP is the best corner. He don't worry where they line up. Because he follows them. And still put up a better year than Norman according to the ppl who track it.
5th year pro
5 time Pro Bowler
3 time 1st team All Pro
17 career INTs
4th year pro
1 pro bowl
1 1st team all pro
7 career INTs
But Norman is better right?
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You can just stop. Go back to ? riding Olsen and how great he was with the Bears averaging 400 yards a year.
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PP gave up a game tying TD in the playoffs and routinely gets roasted. he not even the best DB on his team
honey badger >>> PP!!
Sherman >>>>PP and it ain't close
u just biased cuz of where PP went to school. -
PP gave up a game tying TD in the playoffs and routinely gets roasted. he not even the best DB on his team
honey badger >>> PP!!
Sherman >>>>PP and it ain't close
u just biased cuz of where PP went to school.
He didn't give up a game tying TD.
It was a Hail Mary.
He gave 0 catches that game with a pick 6 called back.
His numbers was identical to Norman this year. With a better overall grade though.
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a hailmary where he was the primary defender
that tied the game = game tying TD
Do you need to see the clip? -
Sherman is a beast
Hes near the top for me. Did it for years. -
a hailmary where he was the primary defender
that tied the game = game tying TD
Do you need to see the clip?
It's no primary defender on a Hail Mary.
Him and Johnson was the nearest defenders and he caught it.
But what are you trying to prove?
Norman gave up a big first down in the Super Bowl and dropped 2 HUGE INTs.
Sherman gave up a big play against Carolina.
So what's your point?
PP is 3 time first team all pro in 5 years and probably would have got it last year if he would have found out he had diabetes sooner.
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Shizlansky wrote: »Alpha_Ambition wrote: »Wow.
Josh Norman has held DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, TY Hilton, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones to combined 9 rec/89 yards (@nflnetwork research).
How sway?
Julio Jones had 200+ yards against the panthers one game
the key is one game !!!
Regis got roasted by Hopkins one game
no CB throws shut outs every game of their life
yall cats got unrealistic expectations
Hopkins top 5 out though -
What are some of the major NFL message/discussion boards? I know there's places like realgm for basketball but what is there for football?
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What are some of the major NFL message/discussion boards? I know there's places like realgm for basketball but what is there for football?
http://community.allhiphop.com/categories/from-the-cheap-seats -
Shizlansky wrote: »
They don't need him...once KB come back the rest of them can fall into place
Peterson ain't better than the other top ?
Somebody going have to tell me the top wide outs he held in check this year cause ain't none in his division
You saying a a 5th year pro that's a
5 time Pro Bowler
3 time 1st team all pro
Last year gain a lot of weight playing with diabetes and didn't even know. Probably would have been another 1st team all pro.
So you saying that's not better than Norman or any other player that was named.
GTFOH.
I asked a specific question in that post, you gave me a bunch of ? I didn't ask for...
You know I ain't going back n forth with you
You said Torry Holt was equal to TO
We'll never have a serious back n forth...I only give you a few replies when I'm bored to son you -
only cuz a team is my rival doesn't mean i will discredit their players what ? been doing is like me discrediting clay matthews, nelson and rodgers lol.
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Hopkins top 5 now......lol. Don't get me wrong hopkins got next what he did with those QBs reminds me almost of what Josh Gordon did with nobody QBs. Probably get a bunch of no signs, but if Josh Gordon is for real about this ? and doesn't get hurt seriously he will be the best in the league top 5 WR all time
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Shizlansky wrote: »ODB
Julio Jones
D. Hopkins
Roddy White
Probably the best 3 WRs in the league says Norman is a solid CB. Nothing special. They say the tape don't lie. He don't cover WRs. They stay in Cover 2 with help over the top.
I'll take the word of those dudes and gat I seen.
Hell against ODB he was double 13 out of the 16 times Norman covered him.
Oh so now you going to believe what wr say -
Shizlansky wrote: »a hailmary where he was the primary defender
that tied the game = game tying TD
Do you need to see the clip?
It's no primary defender on a Hail Mary.
Him and Johnson was the nearest defenders and he caught it.
But what are you trying to prove?
Norman gave up a big first down in the Super Bowl and dropped 2 HUGE INTs.
Sherman gave up a big play against Carolina.
So what's your point?
PP is 3 time first team all pro in 5 years and probably would have got it last year if he would have found out he had diabetes sooner.
Bruh you can't try to devalue Norman's production because of the second game against Julio, and then ask what's your point, when guys bring up mistakes Peterson has had. Norman balled out in the Super Bowl, 1st team all pro, and he's about to get paid. All this I gotta see more stuff doesn't matter. From a technical standpoint Norman's year last year is better than any year Peterson ever had. Sherman's best year's put him as the unequivocal number 1 though. -
Yall sitting here debating CB but if they have a horrible D-line they will be put on the crucifix. You can only cover someone for so long.
PP, Sherman, Norman, Talib, Revis most of the top CB in the league have pass rushers. Put them on teams without a pass rush and see how good there stats will be.
All of those CBs are good players but they are great when the QB cant just sit back there and pick them apart.
Also scheme is key. Sherman plays in a Defense that has nearly perfected their scheme w/ zone coverages. Why put my CB out there on a island if I dont have to? Let my pass rush do the work. Now all they have to do is not lose the battle in the first 4-5 seconds. In the case of a scrambling QB that may be 9-11 seconds. -
Shizlansky wrote: »a hailmary where he was the primary defender
that tied the game = game tying TD
Do you need to see the clip?
It's no primary defender on a Hail Mary.
Him and Johnson was the nearest defenders and he caught it.
But what are you trying to prove?
Norman gave up a big first down in the Super Bowl and dropped 2 HUGE INTs.
Sherman gave up a big play against Carolina.
So what's your point?
PP is 3 time first team all pro in 5 years and probably would have got it last year if he would have found out he had diabetes sooner.
Bruh you can't try to devalue Norman's production because of the second game against Julio, and then ask what's your point, when guys bring up mistakes Peterson has had. Norman balled out in the Super Bowl, 1st team all pro, and he's about to get paid. All this I gotta see more stuff doesn't matter. From a technical standpoint Norman's year last year is better than any year Peterson ever had. Sherman's best year's put him as the unequivocal number 1 though.
The numbers say PP and Notman had similar years though.En-Fuego22 wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »ODB
Julio Jones
D. Hopkins
Roddy White
Probably the best 3 WRs in the league says Norman is a solid CB. Nothing special. They say the tape don't lie. He don't cover WRs. They stay in Cover 2 with help over the top.
I'll take the word of those dudes and gat I seen.
Hell against ODB he was double 13 out of the 16 times Norman covered him.
Oh so now you going to believe what wr say
I posted that just for you.Shizlansky wrote: »
They don't need him...once KB come back the rest of them can fall into place
Peterson ain't better than the other top ?
Somebody going have to tell me the top wide outs he held in check this year cause ain't none in his division
You saying a a 5th year pro that's a
5 time Pro Bowler
3 time 1st team all pro
Last year gain a lot of weight playing with diabetes and didn't even know. Probably would have been another 1st team all pro.
So you saying that's not better than Norman or any other player that was named.
GTFOH.
I asked a specific question in that post, you gave me a bunch of ? I didn't ask for...
You know I ain't going back n forth with you
You said Torry Holt was equal to TO
We'll never have a serious back n forth...I only give you a few replies when I'm bored to son you
You said Norman > PP
And I gave you reasons why it's PP > Norman.
