Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)
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dallas' 4 eva wrote: »Wait.... you would take Kobe over 3 7 footers? Really?
In this day and age, yes.
I would value an all time wing with kobes skillset over most all time centers. -
Ether44mag wrote: »The "Greatest Laker" conversation is different than the "Greatest Player" Conversation ...
In the former discussion, there are a lot of contextual factors being considered outside of the players ability and overall accomplishments.
This list has Byron Scott as a "better Laker" than Wilt...
Does that mean that Byron Scott is a "better player" than Wilt Chamberlain? ...
Kobe is arguably the Greatest Laker for a lot of reasons, but on my all time list I wouldn't put him above Magic, Kareem, or even Shaq
when I think of the lakers the first name that comes up in my mind is still Magic Johnson ,Him and Bird SAVED the Nba so on Lakers Impact alone, Magic is number one for me, with Kobe second, The Lakers are the Lakers because of Magic, he was the face of the franchise in the Era when they became a sport phenomenon
I agree.
What I conceded was that there is an argument for Kobe. Which is not really something that can be denied at this point. -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomLeBron
Magic
Mike
Kareem
Timmy
Def top 10 though. Probably my number 7 after Shaq at 6. -
Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 roomI noticed nobody has Dr J in their top 5
Erving won three championships, four Most Valuable Player Awards, and three scoring titles with the ABA's Virginia Squires and New York Nets (now the NBA's Brooklyn Nets) and the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers. He is the sixth-highest scorer in ABA/NBA history with 30,026 points (NBA and ABA combined). -
Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 roomNothingButTheTruth wrote: »Kobe holds the following Lakers' records:
Minutes Played
Steals
3pt FG made
FTs made
Field Goals made
Points in the regular season
Points in the playoffs
Points in the season
Points in a half
Points in a quarter
Most games in the regular season
Most playoff games in the regular season
Most seasons played
Most playoff seasons played
Most all-star game selections
Most all-NBA first teams
Most all-Defensive first teams
In other words, Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time and it's not even close. Kobe would also embarrass Magic on the court, so stop the ? .
@ the bolded. What does most playoff games in a regular season mean?
Also, Kobe might hold the record for most points in the regular season or most points in a half, but Kareem Abdul Jabbar holds the record for most points period. He just played on two different teams. You can't take that away from Kareem. He got drafted by Milwaukee and played there for a few years before he got traded to LA. -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomJordan, Oscar Robertson, Wilt, Magic, and Kwame Brown...... Nah just bs I'm torn between Shaq and Kareem Shaq was more dominant but Kareem got more rings and the unfuckwitable skyhook ? it i'mma roll with Shaq.
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Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 roomNothingButTheTruth wrote: »Kobe holds the following Lakers' records:
Minutes Played
Steals
3pt FG made
FTs made
Field Goals made
Points in the regular season
Points in the playoffs
Points in the season
Points in a half
Points in a quarter
Most games in the regular season
Most playoff games in the regular season
Most seasons played
Most playoff seasons played
Most all-star game selections
Most all-NBA first teams
Most all-Defensive first teams
In other words, Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time and it's not even close. Kobe would also embarrass Magic on the court, so stop the ? .
@ the bolded. What does most playoff games in a regular season mean?
Also, Kobe might hold the record for most points in the regular season or most points in a half, but Kareem Abdul Jabbar holds the record for most points period. He just played on two different teams. You can't take that away from Kareem. He got drafted by Milwaukee and played there for a few years before he got traded to LA.
Typo, should read "Most playoff games".
With Kareem, that's cool, but Kobe scored more points AS A LAKER, and we were discussing who the best LAKER was.
By the way, Kobe also has the following ranks in the Lakers franchise:
Top 5 in assists
Top 5 in blocks
Top 5 in defensive rebounds
Kobe's name is all over the Lakers. Like I said earlier, it's not even close, he's the GOAT Laker. -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomKobe IS the greatest Laker tho....he played his whole career there.....only one comparable is Magic.
Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>Magic -
Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 roomKneeGro_DuperMan wrote: »Kobe IS the greatest Laker tho....he played his whole career there.....only one comparable is Magic.
Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>Magic
How is he not in your top 5 if he's the greatest Laker bro -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomMagic is the greatest Laker of all time stop it
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Yall still entertaining this. Come on man give it up.
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Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomjoeyfkncrakk wrote: »KneeGro_DuperMan wrote: »Kobe IS the greatest Laker tho....he played his whole career there.....only one comparable is Magic.
Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>Magic
How is he not in your top 5 if he's the greatest Laker bro
Him playing his whole career as a Laker makes him the greatest Laker.....that ain't got ? to do with top 5.........him being top 5 is arguable.....he's just not in mines my G.....top 10 certified -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomYall better put some respeck on the Ring ? Russell's name
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Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomthe same people who never saw russell play and praise him as a top 5 player even with his 44 fg% and scoring 14pts as a center are the same people who say Big L is top 5 since he died lol foh Russell cant ? be top 5 because of his rings only ,if so that would mean pippen is better than lebron... Russells' role in the celtics was the same as Ben wallace on the pistons,important ? yes VERY but that is not enough to be top 5
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Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomJordan
Kareem
Wilt
Lebron
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Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomEther44mag wrote: »the same people who never saw russell play and praise him as a top 5 player even with his 44 fg% and scoring 14pts as a center are the same people who say Big L is top 5 since he died lol foh Russell cant ? be top 5 because of his rings only ,if so that would mean pippen is better than lebron... Russells' role in the celtics was the same as Ben wallace on the pistons,important ? yes VERY but that is not enough to be top 5
Quit trying to rewrite history homie, you don't know what the ? you're talking about -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomIdk what the ? is wrong with some of yall disrespeckin' Oscar Robertson. He averaged a triple double THE ENTIRE SEASON. Show me another ? putting up numbers close to that.
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Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomI noticed nobody has Dr J in their top 5
Erving won three championships, four Most Valuable Player Awards, and three scoring titles with the ABA's Virginia Squires and New York Nets (now the NBA's Brooklyn Nets) and the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers. He is the sixth-highest scorer in ABA/NBA history with 30,026 points (NBA and ABA combined).
He's top 10 -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 room1. M. Jordan - No brainer. Offensively, defensively, mentally and often underrated but physically MJ was the best at almost everything on the court. You name it, MJ could do it. MJ would do it and MJ did it. That to me is what make him the greatest because the level at which it was done still hasn't been matched. At least not on all facets of the game. Speaking of MJ still to this day is like telling a fairy tale. A fantasy story. Almost "? " like. Yes, that was MJ.
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3. L. James - Lived up to the expectations and beyond. Sure there were growing pains but they weren't created by this kid. They were created by the critics, fans both for and not for, other NBA players current and past. Lebron grew as a leader, he had a more powerful presence than the likes of Magic Johnson on both ends of the court and he could score. The best unselfish yet still dominant player ever. 13 yrs in and without question, today he's the best player playing. You can always count on seeing whatever teams he's on to be in the NBA Finals. FACTS!! Assassin? some argue that he's not. Not a problem. The opponents usually put themselves in the air, Lebron just kicks away the chair.
3. S. O'Neal - No answer for whatever he wanted to do in the paint offensively. In that Shaq-zone, if he had the ball which wasn't for very long but you can almost always count on those 2 pts. What made Shaq such a powerful force was how he got those 2 pts. The rim felt his presence just as much as the centers he played against. Sure there were more refined centers in the league. The Dream, Ewing and Robinson just to name a few but Shaq did it his way and he meant it and more importantly there wasn't anything you could do about it.
4. W. Chamberlain - Quite simply the most dominant scorer of any error. The 100 pt game still stands not to mention the 50 pts per game a season which has yet to be broken. Nothing else left to say about that.
5. Magic - The ball in Magic's hand while in transition down the middle with Worthy on one side, Kareem on another side put the other team in a world of trouble. The only thing you can do is watch what happens after Kareem or Worthy scores. How it got there? uumm, Magic! -
Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 room1. M. Jordan - No brainer. Offensively, defensively, mentally and often underrated but physically MJ was the best at almost everything on the court. You name it, MJ could do it. MJ would do it and MJ did it. That to me is what make him the greatest because the level at which it was done still hasn't been matched. At least not on all facets of the game. Speaking of MJ still to this day is like telling a fairy tale. A fantasy story. Almost "? " like. Yes, that was MJ.
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3. L. James - Lived up to the expectations and beyond. Sure there were growing pains but they weren't created by this kid. They were created by the critics, fans both for and not for, other NBA players current and past. Lebron grew as a leader, he had a more powerful presence than the likes of Magic Johnson on both ends of the court and he could score. The best unselfish yet still dominant player ever. 13 yrs in and without question, today he's the best player playing. You can always count on seeing whatever teams he's on to be in the NBA Finals. FACTS!! Assassin? some argue that he's not. Not a problem. The opponents usually put themselves in the air, Lebron just kicks away the chair.
3. S. O'Neal - No answer for whatever he wanted to do in the paint offensively. In that Shaq-zone, if he had the ball which wasn't for very long but you can almost always count on those 2 pts. What made Shaq such a powerful force was how he got those 2 pts. The rim felt his presence just as much as the centers he played against. Sure there were more refined centers in the league. The Dream, Ewing and Robinson just to name a few but Shaq did it his way and he meant it and more importantly there wasn't anything you could do about it.
4. W. Chamberlain - Quite simply the most dominant scorer of any error. The 100 pt game still stands not to mention the 50 pts per game a season which has yet to be broken. Nothing else left to say about that.
5. Magic - The ball in Magic's hand while in transition down the middle with Worthy on one side, Kareem on another side put the other team in a world of trouble. The only thing you can do is watch what happens after Kareem or Worthy scores. How it got there? uumm, Magic!
Fukc your top 5... No Kareem, No Kobe... Lebron at 2 u wildin -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomCashmoneyDux wrote: »Idk what the ? is wrong with some of yall disrespeckin' Oscar Robertson. He averaged a triple double THE ENTIRE SEASON. Show me another ? putting up numbers close to that.
he's top 10 but not top 5 because he was not a winner ,he won in the last stages of his career because of Kareem -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomWilt shooting the ball 63 times to score 100 in a meaningless game against the worst team in the league that didn't have their starting center does not make him top 5
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Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 roomits....JOHN B wrote: »Wilt shooting the ball 63 times to score 100 in a meaningless game against the worst team in the league that didn't have their starting center does not make him top 5
Looking back at this thread post for post...
Every dude CS has named over Kobe has a massive hole in their argument that Kobe had filled... I don't understand at all why it's hard to admit Kobe is as great as all of the above and should be in the top 5.. Kobe is the biggest overachiever of all of the all time GOATs... We aren't talking about a presumed superstar top 5 pick of his draft class, we are talking about the 13th pick of the 1st rd. straight outta high school, in one of the goat draft classes of all time.. Off the rip, year 2 he had MJ's notice and respect in high regard, MJ knew Kobe was gonna handle business and be next up and Kobe delivered...
These penalties Kobe gets, for being paired with Shaq to go on the only 3 peat since the Bulls.. to go Han Solo & recreate his whole game in his advanced stages to get his own 2 peat sans Shaq, Kobe was a top 3 player for at least 15 years which were more than a lot of the career goats y'all claim to have peaked Kobe... Only accolade he didn't get was 6th man of the year... Kobe is TOP 5 DOA -
Nope, Kobe's not in that too 5 roomjoeyfkncrakk wrote: »its....JOHN B wrote: »Wilt shooting the ball 63 times to score 100 in a meaningless game against the worst team in the league that didn't have their starting center does not make him top 5
Looking back at this thread post for post...
Every dude CS has named over Kobe has a massive hole in their argument that Kobe had filled... I don't understand at all why it's hard to admit Kobe is as great as all of the above and should be in the top 5.. Kobe is the biggest overachiever of all of the all time GOATs... We aren't talking about a presumed superstar top 5 pick of his draft class, we are talking about the 13th pick of the 1st rd. straight outta high school, in one of the goat draft classes of all time.. Off the rip, year 2 he had MJ's notice and respect in high regard, MJ knew Kobe was gonna handle business and be next up and Kobe delivered...
These penalties Kobe gets, for being paired with Shaq to go on the only 3 peat since the Bulls.. to go Han Solo & recreate his whole game in his advanced stages to get his own 2 peat sans Shaq, Kobe was a top 3 player for at least 15 years which were more than a lot of the career goats y'all claim to have peaked Kobe... Only accolade he didn't get was 6th man of the year... Kobe is TOP 5 DOA
Kobe has holes in his argument too -
Yes, Kobe's in that top 5 roomits....JOHN B wrote: »joeyfkncrakk wrote: »its....JOHN B wrote: »Wilt shooting the ball 63 times to score 100 in a meaningless game against the worst team in the league that didn't have their starting center does not make him top 5
Looking back at this thread post for post...
Every dude CS has named over Kobe has a massive hole in their argument that Kobe had filled... I don't understand at all why it's hard to admit Kobe is as great as all of the above and should be in the top 5.. Kobe is the biggest overachiever of all of the all time GOATs... We aren't talking about a presumed superstar top 5 pick of his draft class, we are talking about the 13th pick of the 1st rd. straight outta high school, in one of the goat draft classes of all time.. Off the rip, year 2 he had MJ's notice and respect in high regard, MJ knew Kobe was gonna handle business and be next up and Kobe delivered...
These penalties Kobe gets, for being paired with Shaq to go on the only 3 peat since the Bulls.. to go Han Solo & recreate his whole game in his advanced stages to get his own 2 peat sans Shaq, Kobe was a top 3 player for at least 15 years which were more than a lot of the career goats y'all claim to have peaked Kobe... Only accolade he didn't get was 6th man of the year... Kobe is TOP 5 DOA
Kobe has holes in his argument too
Kobe got your guys beat, numbers don't lie, neither does longevity... From MJ to Steph he did it all
