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  • 1CK1S
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    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    For the millionth f-cking time! This protest is about black getting killed by cops, not the military!
  • MR.CJ
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    Shannon Sharpe was talking that ? today
  • Ghost313
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    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Some people should just ride the sideline and be silent.
  • gns
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    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
  • The Lonious Monk
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    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen

    I'm telling you. You have to give the people in the media props. It's amazing how much they flipped the script on this ? . Where did the military come into this at all? This ? has nothing to do with the military in the slightest, but somehow all anyone is talking about is the military and disrepect to them. That ? 's amazing. ? came out talking about cheeseburgers, and the media switched it to a discussion about sofas.
  • xxCivicxx
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    Vellum wrote: »
    Trillfate wrote: »
    En-Fuego22 wrote: »
    What is the endgame in doing this? Is this going to change the justice system? The world is already aware of the injustices that black people face here in america.

    We are in no-win situation because we aren't united and we don't have any land or infrastructures to call home.
    When Mlk said he regretting about leading his people into the situation this is the end result.
    We can't get justice, We can't thrive in a land that we don't control .
    I just don't understand black people at all there is no logical way to win in the current state that were in.
    One of the law of power Law 11: Learn To Keep People Dependent on You and as black people that's who we are right now we depend on white people for everything so we can't win

    Idk what endgame is but as long as these protests keep disrupting white Harmony they should continue... black people have nothing to lose at this point

    was gonna. Say this..

    Who gives a ? what the "endgame" is..

    The mere fact that ? are starting to give a ? less about whites opinion and acceptance is beautiful..

    Let these ? be great!

    we'll cross that bridge when we have to..

    What kinda silly logic is that man? ? ain't protesting for the sake of protesting. There is a problem that they want addressed. Doing ? just because it makes white people mad isn't any better than doing ? to avoid offending white people. In both cases, your motivations revolve around white people and there feelings and not what's best for black people.

    Honestly, I think they need to flip it on them. I don't know what they should do, but they should transition away from the kneeling during the anthem to something else. The CaCs have already accomplished their mission as far as that goes. I saw them talk about this ? about 100 times this weekend because of all the football being played and I can't recall once when they actually discussed the meaning behind all of it. People like Shannon Sharpe are trying to keep that message out there, but this ? military red herring has effectively rendered anthem/flag protests moot when it comes to raising awareness for the actual cause.

    I hope someone can come up with something that is in your face and can't be dismissed, but also can't be deflected. That's tough though because people in the media are good at deflecting.

    The ? are u talkin about.
    I didnt even finish readin that ? seein as i CLEARLY stated in the post u quotin how im happy ? is FINALLY starting to NOT give a ? about what crackas feel and think..

    Thats empowerment in itself..
    And jus the beginnin... Cause wit that mental chains are bein broken..

    Try again..

    Yeah, my bad. I wasn't really clear with my point.

    You asked "who gives a ? what the "endgame" is?" The answer is "everyone with any sense." No one protests for the sake of protesting. People protest to accomplish something, so everyone involved should care what the endgame is.

    A few ? not giving a ? what white people think doesn't mean much if ? are still getting shot down in the street. Making white people upset is pointless if it isn't resulting in something that benefits us.

    As for breaking mental chains. I wouldn't even say much of that is going on. There have always been black who gave less that a ? what whites though. My wife's grandfather slapped the ? out of a white man back when that could get you hanged. He had to leave his hometown for life, but...hey, it was probably worth it. The fact that we got so called civil rights leaders out there bashing the players for what they're doing shows you that those chains are still very much intact. So better to aim for real victories than meaning psychological victories.
    Bruh, these football players have sparked nationwide protest. Black ppl have FINALLY became aware & are now challenging white supremacy as we know it. But pessimistic azz ? like you aren't even given the ? a chance to grow by already talking about a ? end game. Progress will NEVER get made if ? don't appreciate the little things. Why not just be proud of black athletes finally taking a stand? Believe it or not, things like this are what start real change

    Do ya'll ? actually think about the ? that you're saying? You think Kaep did this ? and didn't give a ? if anything came out of it or do you think he had hopes that it would lead to more?

    Nobody is being pessimistic by asking where we go from here. That's what you're supposed to do. Of course we're proud of the athletes stepping up and taking the lead. Now we all have to turn it into something.

    I don't know where you been, but people been protesting for years now. That's great, but eventually it has to result in something. You're absolutely right. Things like this start real change, but only if there is someone thinking on how to build on it. If everyone is like you and is just satisfied with the protest, nothing gets accomplished.
    One of the dumbest post in IC history. ? you do realize you gotta start somewhere. You not just gon wake up one day and racism gon be dead. A end game may take YEARS. But the point is somebody is FINALLY taking a stand, and that somebody has started a nationwide debate. It's also made white ppl confront their racist history in america. You can't talk about the national anthem without mentioning the racism behind it. Yet you're dismissing of all of this because a end game hasn't been reached? Um ok ?

    ? , shut the ? up. You think kaep is some revolutionary? You young ? are crackhead stupid. Before you ? had social media to communicate all the time, people were still putting in ground work. People were still upset, trying to march, trying to get their voices heard. Kanye west still got infront of the world and said george bush doesnt care about black people. That ? wasnt jokes at the time.

    How dare you say somebody has FINALLY taken a stand. HOW ? DARE YOU. Like black people just been sitting by being quiet and complacent like slaves for decades until some downs syndrome looking light skin brotha continued the conversation.

    You bottom feeders have the nerve to come at me, but say some ? like "finally somebody is taking a stand".
    Again. To put it in perspective, you're a ? who was defending Ray Lewis being a ? in this same thread. RAY LEWIS!!? You are the WRONG ? to speak on anything regarding social injustice. Matter of fact, you're just as much of a boot lickin ? as Ray Lewis is.

    With that said, what I meant was we finally got athletes with a HUGE platform taking a stand on social issues. The thing is we call ppl out like Cam Newton, Richard Sherman, Charles Barkley for being ? , and say "why don't athletes speak out more on social matters involving their own", but when they do internet ? like you & Lonious tear them down. For the record, Kaep hasnt done anything other than legally protest. How tf can you criticize him? Uncle Ruckus of the IC azz ?

    Y'all should just put that guy on ignore like I did
  • Chi Snow
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    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Chicity wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....

    lol Ya'll are rough. You acting like Joe said "? your protest." If you read his statement, he clearly said he was supporting the movement. He just allowed himself to be hoodwinked. There is a difference between being dumb and being a betrayer.
  • Olorun22
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    xxCivicxx wrote: »
    En-Fuego22 wrote: »
    Generation after Generation we're in the same position nothing ever change but the weather for us, whether it's africa, north or south america.
    What is it going to take for us to get of the ? because all this other ? hasn't worked.
    How are we going to progress? We been praying, we protest peacefully and no result.
    Athlete stand up and lose sponsor now what?

    You seem to be whining and asking a lot of questions that you YOURSELF could be working on solving

    But you'd rather complain about how other people choose to react to oppression

    I already addressed this before. And I do my part with solving the problem
  • stringer bell
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vlWUkD7QTg

    http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/bill-o-reilly-these-black-athletes
    Bill O’Reilly: These Black Athletes’ Protests ‘Have To Stop’

    If there’s one thing Fox News seems to hate, it’s African Americans exercising their American freedoms of expression. Why, it just seems so un-American to the “fair and balanced” network!

    Bill O’Reilly sent his ally in Blacks Behaving Badly tropes, producer Jesse Watters, to a New York Jets game on Sunday, the 15th anniversary of 9/11. The goal was to “sample the controversy” about Colin Kaepernick and other athletes' civil rights protest of refusing to stand for the national anthem.

    Just in case you thought Watters might be at all impartial, Fox set us straight in the opening moments of the video when we saw him standing and singing the anthem, hand over his heart, along with a sea of white people. There was one African American face, seen at the beginning, as if designed to inoculate the segment from cries of racism.

    The overwhelming majority of people Watters interviewed in the video were white. He asked an African American woman, “Don’t you think he [Kaepernick] should respect the people that serve and protect you?” Watters did not ask her or anyone else about how they feel about the disproportionately large number of unarmed African Americans shot and killed by police. He didn’t even mention it, even though that is, in large part, the basis of Kaepernick’s protest.

    After this biased segment, Watters chatted with O’Reilly in the studio. O’Reilly opined that if he owned the San Francisco 49ers, Kaepernick's team, he’d tell Kaepernick to have a “separate press conference” to air his political views and then ban “any political displays once you’re on the field.”

    Watters agreed that would be a fair solution.

    Then O’Reilly began to attack a Kansas City Chiefs player for making a Black Power salute but, apparently, thought better of it.

    O’REILLY: In Kansas City, the Chiefs player did a Black Power salute – on 9/11. I mean, that’s – that’s not a…

    O’Reilly didn’t finish his sentence.


    “No,” Watters nevertheless agreed.

    But we knew what O’Reilly meant. It came out more explicitly in his closing statement:

    O’REILLY: The kids are getting involved with this now so it’s gonna have to stop, I believe, and we’ll see.


    O'Racist being racist as usual...
  • eastbay510
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    Max. wrote: »

    Smh. Like I said before and not to derail the thread but even without all the social issue controversy, it doesn't make any sense in football terms to get rid of Kaepernick. That ? shouldn't even be a consideration.
  • 1CK1S
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    eastbay510 wrote: »
    Max. wrote: »

    Smh. Like I said before and not to derail the thread but even without all the social issue controversy, it doesn't make any sense in football terms to get rid of Kaepernick. That ? shouldn't even be a consideration.

    Almost every knows that Gabert is trash and if they do go with it, can your imagine the damage from a PR standpoint and the others are going to want to jump ship.
  • CapitalB
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    Chicity wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....

    what my baby do??
  • blackrain
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    Go figure wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen

    i was just thinking the crazy part is hispanics can take whichever side they want or be neutral, but either way they will benefit off of any progress black people make, ? is crazy

    No, we all can't pick and choose which side to take. Latinos ain't a race and they make sure black latinos know that too
  • blackrain
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    Chicity wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....

    what my baby do??

    Probably the long standing and many times disproven rumor about her saying she's not a black woman when she's said the opposite many times about how she's a black woman
  • The Lonious Monk
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    blackrain wrote: »
    Chicity wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....

    what my baby do??

    Probably the long standing and many times disproven rumor about her saying she's not a black woman when she's said the opposite many times about how she's a black woman

    Nah, from what I've seen it's more that people feel she plays both sides. Like she used the black community to get popular and make a name, and as soon as she did then she went to the other side. I'm not saying whether that's true or not, but that's what people seem to fault her for.
  • playmaker88
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    Unless these highschools want there team to be comprised of there offensive line a full back and a qb.. they best let the black athletes exercise their right.. If i was no one of these teams id organize and put real pressure on these racist cacs who are trying to cuff their freedom of expression.. I hope some of that is going on or will happen.. the players hold THAT power
  • blackrain
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    blackrain wrote: »
    Chicity wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....

    what my baby do??

    Probably the long standing and many times disproven rumor about her saying she's not a black woman when she's said the opposite many times about how she's a black woman
    blackrain wrote: »
    Chicity wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    After San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the national anthem as a form of protest that he said was motivated by police brutality and racial injustice, the rapper — whose real name is Joseph Cartagena — said it was disrespectful to the military.

    “Having thout about it, I ain’t with protesting the #NationalAnthem,” he tweeted. “Soldiers died fighting 4 our freedom not cops. Why disrepsected them?”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/fat-joe-eviscerates-colin-kaepernick-soliders-died-fighting-for-our-freedom/#ixzz4KGb6JnFc

    Been telling ? stop trusting spics
    Muhfuckas dont listen
    Fat Joe
    J Lo
    Pit bull
    Zoe Saldana.....

    what my baby do??

    Probably the long standing and many times disproven rumor about her saying she's not a black woman when she's said the opposite many times about how she's a black woman

    Nah, from what I've seen it's more that people feel she plays both sides. Like she used the black community to get popular and make a name, and as soon as she did then she went to the other side. I'm not saying whether that's true or not, but that's what people seem to fault her for.

    look..

    if ? in here don't want no ? -? ISSUES..

    leave bae out this ? !!! :rage:

    Man you can have her...Dominican women are ? crazy. You from LA I don't know ya'll Dominican population out there, but the Dominican chicks I know...just always stay on their good side lol