RA The Rugged Man: LL Cool J is a Better Rapper Than 2Pac
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lol Aint gonna derail the thread, but Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron and it aint close.
Na, we not gon do this. But the best 3 finals performances i've ever seen was by Jordan, Shaq, and Lebron. And Lebron's the second best player i've ever watched. Kobe's a scorer, nothing more, nothing less. Lebron's a point guard that will give you 30.
See now I gotta respond lol
So you're gonna bring up finals like Lebron doesn't lose more than he wins? Word?
Yea yea yea he's been there alot, but he loses. And you wanna know why he gets there so much? Cuz he's in the eastern conf, that ? 's the JV of the NBA. What other threat has there been in the east? Magic with Howard? word? Bulls with weak knee Rose? Word?
The western conf had a bunch of juggernauts , from the spurs, mavs, okc,lakers, warriors. That's why he lost so many finals cuz it was easy af to get there, but when he faced real comp he lost.
You can say Kobe was just a scorer but he was a winner. If you look back at the finals where they played the pistons, they was TRIPLE teaming kobe the moment he hit the half court line, the whole game and this is while Shaq was there lol I've never seen no ? like that before. Kobe was on another level. If you was really watchin ball back then, ? knows what's up. That's why everybody from Shaq to MJ to all the other vets say Kobe>>> Lebron.
Aight I'm done with my rant lol
YOU LYIN.They wasn't triple teaming kobe they let prince and rip guard him and he went 1 on 1 and shot 38% and jagged the series.Took more shots than shaq who was bodying wallace FOH.Kobe had 1 good game and that was game 2 he was awful that series and played into the pistons game plan. -
LeBron was the favorite to win exactly 1 finals series
Ironically 1 he lost
Beat them same juggernauts you dickriding to get the 3 he got
While Kobe beat the nets, the 6ers, the magic and Boston
Boston being the only comp
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I been a hip hop fan since forever. And NOBODY including hip hop media was saying pac was goat when he was alive.
Pac wasnt even dominating the west coast until that short period after he got outta prison.
PS
Brendas gotta baby was a simple ass song that anybody coulda wrote in grade 9 English class, stop with the bs of promoting this song to legendary status......Pacs song Trapped was waaaaaay better than Brenda
PS part2
If Cube dropped dead after Death Certificate, he woulda had the most flawless start to a hiphop career and woulda been looked at as super legendary. -
Pac benefited off hype more than any rapper in history.
Its his extra cirricular activities/and drama outside his music that kept his name in peoples mouth.
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BackInWhite wrote: »1st of all Kobe was not, is not and never will be a better "technical" player than LeBron
2nd of all lebron took Eric snow, Larry Hughes, drew Gooden and the cast of the Cosby show to the finals
Kobe had what 19 triple doubles in 20 seasons
LeBron got 45
Kobe got the record for most missed shots in the history of the league
And let's not even act like he didn't play with the most dominant center in like forever when he won his 1st 3
Kobe is Carmelo with better teammates and a ? attitude
Cut the ?
Idk what y'all talking about but I know you don't know ? about ball
Exclude yourself
Lol @ Kobe being Melo
Shut all the way the ? up
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BackInWhite wrote: »1st of all Kobe was not, is not and never will be a better "technical" player than LeBron
2nd of all lebron took Eric snow, Larry Hughes, drew Gooden and the cast of the Cosby show to the finals
Kobe had what 19 triple doubles in 20 seasons
LeBron got 45
Kobe got the record for most missed shots in the history of the league
And let's not even act like he didn't play with the most dominant center in like forever when he won his 1st 3
Kobe is Carmelo with better teammates and a ? attitude
Cut the ?
Idk what y'all talking about but I know you don't know ? about ball
Exclude yourself
Lol @ Kobe being Melo
Shut all the way the ? up
You dumb as hell
Volume scorer is my point
You a hoe tho
You mama shoulda shot you in the face as a toddler
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NothingButTheTruth wrote: »
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lol Aint gonna derail the thread, but Kobe>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron and it aint close.
Na, we not gon do this. But the best 3 finals performances i've ever seen was by Jordan, Shaq, and Lebron. And Lebron's the second best player i've ever watched. Kobe's a scorer, nothing more, nothing less. Lebron's a point guard that will give you 30.
See now I gotta respond lol
So you're gonna bring up finals like Lebron doesn't lose more than he wins? Word?
Yea yea yea he's been there alot, but he loses. And you wanna know why he gets there so much? Cuz he's in the eastern conf, that ? 's the JV of the NBA. What other threat has there been in the east? Magic with Howard? word? Bulls with weak knee Rose? Word?
The western conf had a bunch of juggernauts , from the spurs, mavs, okc,lakers, warriors. That's why he lost so many finals cuz it was easy af to get there, but when he faced real comp he lost.
You can say Kobe was just a scorer but he was a winner. If you look back at the finals where they played the pistons, they was TRIPLE teaming kobe the moment he hit the half court line, the whole game and this is while Shaq was there lol I've never seen no ? like that before. Kobe was on another level. If you was really watchin ball back then, ? knows what's up. That's why everybody from Shaq to MJ to all the other vets say Kobe>>> Lebron.
Aight I'm done with my rant lol
Man stop talking basketball fool -
? said he won 5 rings and that's all he has to back up ">>>>>>>>> lebron" as an individual bron been passed Kobe, Kobe all time great of course but bron slightly higher on that list. Better rebounder, better passer, WAY more efficient scorer(Kobe of course a more versatile scorer). Rings are a part but not the only part of the story, it's not like Kobe never lost or bron had prime shaq in his early years. And if ur gonna holler "cuz he won more rings!" well wat about horry, is he better? Exactly. Fool bring up chronic and ? in the other thread cuz he read a magazine and saw its popular, and now sayin Kobe greater strictly off rings, I bet that fool a Lakers, cowboys and Yankees fan, straight casual ass follow the popular opinion ass ?
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king hassan wrote: »BackInWhite wrote: »Also when and if lebron falls off he'll still be a contributor because he does more than score
Soon as Kobe started breaking down it was a wrap for the Lakers
? said it ain't close
No, it's not, cuz lebron taking that ? by miles
Kobe was a Westbrook type ? whereas he might go 9 for 41 but if he hit the game winning shot it's mamba mentality
Like ? u the reason we needed a game winning shot
If yo uglass wasn't out here tryna score on 4 ? at once and made the correct pass we might be up by 25
Kobe is a relic
A thing of the past
Efficiency and high basketball iq is what's poppin
Not volume scoring iso ?
Same reason why Westbrook might avg a triple double this year and not make the playoffs
Man I feel the same way about A.I.
Kobe actually had people to pass to tho, more than ai at least -
Pac did this while he was ? and Cool J still can't match this
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »? said he won 5 rings and that's all he has to back up ">>>>>>>>> lebron" as an individual bron been passed Kobe, Kobe all time great of course but bron slightly higher on that list. Better rebounder, better passer, WAY more efficient scorer(Kobe of course a more versatile scorer). Rings are a part but not the only part of the story, it's not like Kobe never lost or bron had prime shaq in his early years. And if ur gonna holler "cuz he won more rings!" well wat about horry, is he better? Exactly. Fool bring up chronic and ? in the other thread cuz he read a magazine and saw its popular, and now sayin Kobe greater strictly off rings, I bet that fool a Lakers, cowboys and Yankees fan, straight casual ass follow the popular opinion ass ?
I started the whole thing by saying Kobe was a better fundamental/technical player, which he is, but Lebron is the better player regardless of all that, therefore you would start your franchise with him.
Kobe NEEDS to be coupled with another star to get to the finals. You know Lebron is winning the finals with another capable, healthy player. With the exception of that Dallas debacle, he was basically alone out there in every finals series he was in, and lost. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »? said he won 5 rings and that's all he has to back up ">>>>>>>>> lebron" as an individual bron been passed Kobe, Kobe all time great of course but bron slightly higher on that list. Better rebounder, better passer, WAY more efficient scorer(Kobe of course a more versatile scorer). Rings are a part but not the only part of the story, it's not like Kobe never lost or bron had prime shaq in his early years. And if ur gonna holler "cuz he won more rings!" well wat about horry, is he better? Exactly. Fool bring up chronic and ? in the other thread cuz he read a magazine and saw its popular, and now sayin Kobe greater strictly off rings, I bet that fool a Lakers, cowboys and Yankees fan, straight casual ass follow the popular opinion ass ?
I started the whole thing by saying Kobe was a better fundamental/technical player, which he is, but Lebron is the better player regardless of all that, therefore you would start your franchise with him.
Kobe NEEDS to be coupled with another star to get to the finals. You know Lebron is winning the finals with another capable, healthy player. With the exception of that Dallas debacle, he was basically alone out there in every finals series he was in, and lost.
No he wasn't
Stop it
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Why ? 's bringing up Horry and Morrison as if they ever led a team? I've seen some weak ass rebuttals here in the reason but ? damn ? , yall mfs can do better than this.
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supergangster wrote: »Pac did this while he was ? and Cool J still can't match thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-IpeU-aWvs
Dope ass freestyle but young LL woulda crushed that. -
I remember the 80s when LL was in his prime. His second album, Bigger and Deffer was a MONSTER when it dropped. First the I'm Bad video came out and then the I Need Love video dropped. The album came out in the early summer of 1987. Then Paid in Full and Criminal Minded came out later that summer.
LL had the game on lock and then he released the Goin Back To Cali/Jack The Ripper single in Jan 1988. It was a wrap after that.
Anybody who says LL wasn't versatile listen to Goin Back to Cali and Jack The Ripper. That was LL at his apex. -
He's right....
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LL a Goat not that hard to disagree with this
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TO DA BREAK OF DAWN >>> HIT EM UP
LL BODIED MOE DEE, HAMMER & ICE-T...
MEANWHILE...PAC HIMSELF GOT BODIED LITERALLY... -
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? out of here with this ? LL became a borderline pop artist pac was a true hip hop artists his whole career
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The reason people love Tupac is because his music was deep ,very emotional and very dark LL Cool J in comparison made very shallow music you don't feel any pain in his music. if you are suffering a bad time in your life you don't go and put on an LL Cool J record but you go you put on a Tupac record.
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I like LL but is there anybody who actually listen to any of his albums past Mama Said Knock You Out
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I like LL but is there anybody who actually listen to any of his albums past Mama Said Knock You Out
Smh wow so I guess we're up to the part in the thread where we are going to discredit ll with ? statements like this. Yeah ? , considering the fact ll continued to go platinum and have hits over a decade past that album you mentioned, I'm going to guess that people still listened to him post 1990 -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »I like LL but is there anybody who actually listen to any of his albums past Mama Said Knock You Out
Smh wow so I guess we're up to the part in the thread where we are going to discredit ll with ? statements like this. Yeah ? , considering the fact ll continued to go platinum and have hits over a decade past that album you mentioned, I'm going to guess that people still listened to him post 1990
And almost all those hits were f****** love songs... LL turn into Drake with muscles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agP6Lkxvs50
