4:44 Album - *JAY-Z* (06/30/17).
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LcnsdbyROYALTY wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
The Black Album is great.
AG is great and ? keep ignoring it
American Gangster is a great album. -
power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed. -
metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless. -
power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this -
It's because it's Jay Z.
Jay isn't allowed to just be successful, he must be illuminati.
Jay isn't allowed to have business acumen, he must have snaked Dame Dash.
Jay isn't allowed to be a great rapper, he must be stolen all of his raps from Biggie.
Jay isn't allowed to have true form hip hop production or speaking on social or economic issues, he must be copying Nas and Common.
? can't even just marry Beyonce and have kids, he must have gotten her with money and the kids must belong to the bodyguard or some ? . -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
This goes back to what I said before. People don't really want to attack Jay. They really want to attack people who say or imply stupid ? about Jay. It's not a knock against Jay that he isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album, but it is a response to everyone acting like Jay has done something profound and new by making an album like this. -
I'm still listening to this album every day from start to finish. Smile is my favorite but I don't have to skip any songs.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
This goes back to what I said before. People don't really want to attack Jay. They really want to attack people who say or imply stupid ? about Jay. It's not a knock against Jay that he isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album, but it is a response to everyone acting like Jay has done something profound and new by making an album like this.
You got any examples? -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due. -
power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due.
Brudda all I'm askin' for is some examples of what your talkin' about
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CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due.
Brudda all I'm askin' for is some examples of what your talkin' about
https://youtu.be/X-8lqOHsjB0
https://youtu.be/Mvq3PBPj3CA
https://youtu.be/1SPSc2QwMoY
I'm not attacking the album, but you asked. -
power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due.
Brudda all I'm askin' for is some examples of what your talkin' abouthttps://youtu.be/X-8lqOHsjB0https://youtu.be/Mvq3PBPj3CAhttps://youtu.be/1SPSc2QwMoY
I'm not attacking the album, but you asked.
Ight but where are the ? actin' like this is the first conscious album?
All you did was post vids of ? makin' the same claim as you -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due.
Brudda all I'm askin' for is some examples of what your talkin' abouthttps://youtu.be/X-8lqOHsjB0https://youtu.be/Mvq3PBPj3CAhttps://youtu.be/1SPSc2QwMoY
I'm not attacking the album, but you asked.
Ight but where are the ? actin' like this is the first conscious album?
All you did was post vids of ? makin' the same claim as you
Go to Facebook or Twitter. Hit the back button a couple of times on this thread. Come on bro you know some people take it to far. Like I said I like the album alot. ? is classic material to me. But you got stan that say all kind of crazy ? . Look at how sensitive ? was acting because they thought I attacked the album. -
blue_london wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »blue_london wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »This just goes to show you that Jay fans hear something else when they listen to his music. Vol. 1 is one of the most boring albums I've heard from a big name. I mean, I don't think AG is a great album, but I can at least see how people like it. The last time I listened to Vol. 1, I spent the whole album wondering how Jay even made it big.
Million questions, streets is watching, friend or foe, imaginary player,where I'm from, lucky me and you must love me
Trying to be as far as I can. Here's how I rate the songs on that album.
Million Questions - 4
City is Mine - 4
I Know What Girls Like - 0
Imaginary Player - 2 (Not terrible, but boring to me)
Streets is Watching - 3
Friend or Foe 98 - 3
Lucky Me - 2 (Again not terrible, but boring to me)
Sunshine - 1
Who You Wit - 2
Face Off - 0
Real ? - 4.5
Rap Game/? Game - 3
Where I'm From - 4.5
You Must Love Me - 4
It's not like I think there are no good tracks. There is some heat, but there is just as much trash. And even with the songs I gave 3 too, I don't really like them all that much, but I can't say they are bad. It may just be a matter of taste, but that album is forgettable to me.
First human not to like imaginary player
"Pigeons can't be plaaaymates... pigeons can't be plaaaymates" -
power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due.
Brudda all I'm askin' for is some examples of what your talkin' abouthttps://youtu.be/X-8lqOHsjB0https://youtu.be/Mvq3PBPj3CAhttps://youtu.be/1SPSc2QwMoY
I'm not attacking the album, but you asked.
Ight but where are the ? actin' like this is the first conscious album?
All you did was post vids of ? makin' the same claim as you
Go to Facebook or Twitter. Hit the back button a couple of times on this thread. Come on bro you know some people take it to far. Like I said I like the album alot. ? is classic material to me. But you got stan that say all kind of crazy ? . Look at how sensitive ? was acting because they thought I attacked the album.
Yeah I knew it ? hate providin' evidence.
I don't kno' what people are talkin' about when they say ? act like this the first conscious album. Sincerely, I don't.
If it appears as tho' this album is bein' discussed more than say a Common or Nas conscious album, its because Jay has a much higher profile in the mainstream. -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
This goes back to what I said before. People don't really want to attack Jay. They really want to attack people who say or imply stupid ? about Jay. It's not a knock against Jay that he isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album, but it is a response to everyone acting like Jay has done something profound and new by making an album like this.
You got any examples?
You can go through the topic and read for yourself. Someone basically said the album is already a classic because Jay is 50 and he dropped real knowledge in his lyrics. We really going to act like that's not "acting like Jay has done something profound." -
? have to remember in the 90s publication like the Source and XXL used to ? on underground artist and conscious artist who didn't sell, when it came down to rating them. Platinum artist got 4 mics for an average album while an underground artist got 3.5 for a classic. So people are aware of the favoritism that existed. And they're going to call out the ? now, because they have a voice via the internet. It's not that people don't like Jay-z album. It's that other artist don't get the same amount of appreciation for work just as good or better.
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Some of y'all hate it when people enjoy things. It must be so agonizing to see people happy about music.
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soul rattler wrote: »Some of y'all hate it when people enjoy things. It must be so agonizing to see people happy about music.
Fact. -
Yeah the ? a good album. First The Story Of OJ was my favorite. Then it was 4:44. Now it's Through Their Eyes. I've heard most of Hov albums. This is the one I enjoy most.
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
This goes back to what I said before. People don't really want to attack Jay. They really want to attack people who say or imply stupid ? about Jay. It's not a knock against Jay that he isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album, but it is a response to everyone acting like Jay has done something profound and new by making an album like this.
Nobody saying or acting like it's new tho ppl are saying it's dope and giving the reasons why it's dope... Nobody has said they've never heard what Jay is talking about B4 they've said I've never heard this from JAY in this manner so ppl are acknowledging this is new from Jay but y'all want ppl to give other rappers credit for Jay album instead of giving Jay the credit I don't get it -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious albumCeLLaR-DooR wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »metal face terrorist wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »x the unknown wrote: »power_wisdom wrote: »blue_london wrote: »Lol a lot of people grew up with jay z and jaz on here
He lived and went to highschool in my city. Two of my cousin knew him. One ran with him tough. I heard stories.Y'all wildin calling this album a classic already. I think because there's so much garbage rap, anytime someone puts out a decent album people lose their mind and hype it more than it should be. This is a GOOD album, a lot of grown man rap, but classic!? FOH...RD,Blueprint, Black Album, AG, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2>>>>4:44
If it's a classic 5 years from now, then it's a classic today. But I understand what you are saying. But I think it's better than Vol 2 and Black album.
nope
Nope what?
better than vol 2 & black album
You crazy as hell.
4:44> TBA and Vol2. Production and content alone kills both those albums.
? will fight u about their allegiance to The Black Album
I don't understand the hype of 4:44. It has a different sounding production. But its not mind blowing. And for an introspective album, it is not that deep. Lyrically its ok. Not his best. And only a few songs are super dope to me. Plus Nas gave him this style that he's running with.
Fixed.
Production was dope. He got that from Common. Content was refreshing. And it was about time. ? like Common, Nas and others been making albums with substance and themes for decades. But 4:44 a really dope album regardless.
So what? Why do people keep sayin' this. No one is sayin' Jig is the first person to make a conscious album
I don't understand that either.... Jay isn't the first rapper to make a conscious album ok and??? If it doesn't take away from the album being dope what's the point in saying this
Don't get your thongs in a bunch. I was responding to what someone said to me by "fixing" my post that wasn't even about 4:44. It was about the TBA . But what he said did have some valid points. The question is why you acting all sensitive about it? You didn't even read the post in the proper context. Ya'll sound like stans. I love the album. But even people outside of Hip-Hop, black intellectuals have question the over exaggeration of people saying how conscious the album is. I myself have no problem with the album. It was long over due.
Brudda all I'm askin' for is some examples of what your talkin' about
That ? stay tryna find a reason to say sum ? ? insult swear he down low -
Turfaholic wrote: »Yeah the ? a good album. First The Story Of OJ was my favorite. Then it was 4:44. Now it's Through Their Eyes. I've heard most of Hov albums. This is the one I enjoy most.
You are a new fan,Welcome! -
