Dope Mc or Wack Rapper part 5 Gucci Mane
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Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »
What exactly makes him unable to rap?If you lean more towards East Coast Rap or another region, Gucci probably isnt for you. You dont like southern rap, aint for you. Dont like the subject matter of stuntin and trappin, aint for you. Its all in what you want out your music. I think only idiots believe the Vin Staples hype, I've heard Summertime whatever the ? and it was terrible. But at least I gave it a shot. ? talkin about Gucci wack and have only heard Lemonade and Waisted.
? you talking about?
outkast luda juve Ti killer mike ceelo green isiah rashad scarface Krit etc . All of these southern rappers are dope. you know what's the difference between them and gwop? they know how to rap.
Pusha t spits dope dealing type ? , fab spits stuntin type ? . Don q spits that trap ? . your man is wack, plain and simple.
Log off slim
Stay lost. All anyone is saying is he cant rap. How do you have longevity and you cant rap?
That's what ? threads about
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Dope Mc
You think Gucci is a mumble rapper?Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him.
Get outta feelings ? . I've heard plenty of Gucci music. I stopped listening back in 12/13 cuz well........that ? is wack.Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection
"writes his own raps" - I hope he ain't paying nobody else for them wack ass bar
"good beat selection" - The only thing that's good about him.Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
So he influenced a bunch of wack no talent-having mumble rappers like him also. ? influenced Neo-Nazis and Skinheads after him also, but no one in there right mind would call that good either.
Master P (in any conceivable way legacy, impact, career, discography)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>muthafuckin Gucci Mane
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Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
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Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name these talented artists -
Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos... -
Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more -
Wack RapperAggieLean. wrote: »
You think Gucci is a mumble rapper?Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him.
Get outta feelings ? . I've heard plenty of Gucci music. I stopped listening back in 12/13 cuz well........that ? is wack.Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection
"writes his own raps" - I hope he ain't paying nobody else for them wack ass bar
"good beat selection" - The only thing that's good about him.Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
So he influenced a bunch of wack no talent-having mumble rappers like him also. ? influenced Neo-Nazis and Skinheads after him also, but no one in there right mind would call that good either.
Master P (in any conceivable way legacy, impact, career, discography)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>muthafuckin Gucci Mane
Yup. Every time I hear that ? rap all I hear is this ?
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Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
I somewhat agree -
Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
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Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
What exactly makes him unable to rap?If you lean more towards East Coast Rap or another region, Gucci probably isnt for you. You dont like southern rap, aint for you. Dont like the subject matter of stuntin and trappin, aint for you. Its all in what you want out your music. I think only idiots believe the Vin Staples hype, I've heard Summertime whatever the ? and it was terrible. But at least I gave it a shot. ? talkin about Gucci wack and have only heard Lemonade and Waisted.
? you talking about?
outkast luda juve Ti killer mike ceelo green isiah rashad scarface Krit etc . All of these southern rappers are dope. you know what's the difference between them and gwop? they know how to rap.
Pusha t spits dope dealing type ? , fab spits stuntin type ? . Don q spits that trap ? . your man is wack, plain and simple.
Log off slim
Stay lost. All anyone is saying is he cant rap. How do you have longevity and you cant rap?
That's what ? threads about
But I can say he can rap so what is the point? My word vs. yours, the difference is that I've said that I understand you don't get with it. But until a few post ago, you didn't want to give the man any respect or credit. How can you knock a successful artist?
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Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more
Gucci put Coach K on to Migos. Gucci signed Thug. Gucci did Freebricks with Future, further catapulting him into fame. -
Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more
Gucci put Coach K on to Migos. Gucci signed Thug. Gucci did Freebricks with Future, further catapulting him into fame.
They don't sound like gucci....him doing a cllab with someone is not an influence
Plus all those dudes are ass -
Dope McAnyone listen to Trap Goin Crazy yet?
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Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more
Gucci put Coach K on to Migos. Gucci signed Thug. Gucci did Freebricks with Future, further catapulting him into fame.
They don't sound like gucci....him doing a cllab with someone is not an influence
Plus all those dudes are ass
I didn't say they sound like him. Influence doesnt have to be about how they rap. Music production, subject matter, etc. -
Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
What exactly makes him unable to rap?If you lean more towards East Coast Rap or another region, Gucci probably isnt for you. You dont like southern rap, aint for you. Dont like the subject matter of stuntin and trappin, aint for you. Its all in what you want out your music. I think only idiots believe the Vin Staples hype, I've heard Summertime whatever the ? and it was terrible. But at least I gave it a shot. ? talkin about Gucci wack and have only heard Lemonade and Waisted.
? you talking about?
outkast luda juve Ti killer mike ceelo green isiah rashad scarface Krit etc . All of these southern rappers are dope. you know what's the difference between them and gwop? they know how to rap.
Pusha t spits dope dealing type ? , fab spits stuntin type ? . Don q spits that trap ? . your man is wack, plain and simple.
Log off slim
Stay lost. All anyone is saying is he cant rap. How do you have longevity and you cant rap?
That's what ? threads about
But I can say he can rap so what is the point? My word vs. yours, the difference is that I've said that I understand you don't get with it. But until a few post ago, you didn't want to give the man any respect or credit. How can you knock a successful artist?
That's fine, but you the one in here catching the feels talking bout folks don't really listen to Gucci cuz we think he wack.
All you had to do was click yes and keep it moving.
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Dope McThats not a feelings statement. Couldn't the same be said for you though? You provided your opinion and I provided mine. I would not doubt that some people that voted don't know enough about the artist to say hes wack. I didn't quote or @ anyone when I said that. It was my opinion.
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Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more
Gucci put Coach K on to Migos. Gucci signed Thug. Gucci did Freebricks with Future, further catapulting him into fame.
They don't sound like gucci....him doing a cllab with someone is not an influence
Plus all those dudes are ass
I didn't say they sound like him. Influence doesnt have to be about how they rap. Music production, subject matter, etc.
Gucci doesn't produce and Gucci has no subject matter......so where r u finding influence? Did these artists say he influenced them?
Unless your saying just making bragging music about being in the trap as a subject....then ppl been using that outline for years -
Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more
Gucci put Coach K on to Migos. Gucci signed Thug. Gucci did Freebricks with Future, further catapulting him into fame.
They don't sound like gucci....him doing a cllab with someone is not an influence
Plus all those dudes are ass
I didn't say they sound like him. Influence doesnt have to be about how they rap. Music production, subject matter, etc.
Gucci doesn't produce and Gucci has no subject matter......so where r u finding influence? Did these artists say he influenced them?
For example, Gucci helped get Zaytoven's name out there. Now Future want a Zay beat, Migos got a Zay beat.... -
Dope Mc? don't know rap Gucci put a lot of ? on
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Wack RapperThats not a feelings statement. Couldn't the same be said for you though? You provided your opinion and I provided mine. I would not doubt that some people that voted don't know enough about the artist to say hes wack. I didn't quote or @ anyone when I said that. It was my opinion.
That might be true but homie got like 20+ singles that he was the lead or featured on. Not to mention some of his guest verses on other people's project (Shine Blockas for example).
How is that not enough to form an opinion?
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Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Revolver Ocelot wrote: »
You're proving my point. Anyone that has really listened to him, knows he's dope. You don't like him, okay, then its not for you. Just don't be surprised when someone refutes the negative. Give me the criteria of a dope MC and with the exception of a classic album, Gucci would check the boxes.
Lyrical Ability - ? No
Flow - Nope
Subsistence/Content - Hell No
I don't think you need be a wordsmith to have a classic album. Master P (imo) got 3 Ice Cream man, Ghetto D, and Tha Last Don, and he an average MC at best. But he a ? lyrical genius compared to Gucci.
Uninformed opinion. I love P, but stop. Like I said, its easy to tell that you don't listen to him. Thats you. But I have a hard time respecting the opinion of a person saying Gucci is wack even though he actually puts in work as an artist, has a career that has lasted over a decade successfully (commercially and underground), writes his own raps, has the delivery, charisma, good beat selection and street cred oh and is top 5 most influential artist in Rap, PERIOD, but then reels of three ? Master P albums as classics. What the ? are you talking about???
You overating the ? out of a dude who drips wackness
How Sway? Look at rap music now, a trap artist is behind the way rap music is now. Who's the hottest producer right now? Gucci make a song with him? The ? put people like Mike Will, Zay and Metro on the map. Seems like a strong influence into the culture. It has widely been said that Gucci is probably the best A&R in the game and thats not even his job title...
Being influential to a bunch of dumb mother ? doesn't mean ? ...its like the blind leading the blind
Listen to his music...it lacks quality...its actually laughable at how terrible it is
Changing the face of a genre means a lot. Again thats how you feel.
Changing the face of a genre for the worse means a lot....it means there's a lot of retards running around
There are some talented decedents of Gucci. There is also a glut of artist that shouldn't be artists or successful that were influenced bu Gucci. But he cant control that.
Name em
Future, Young Thug (he's different, don't really care for his stuff, but he does have talent), Migos...
We asked for talented artists.....not ppl ruining the culture
Id also argue lil Wayne influenced those guys more
Gucci put Coach K on to Migos. Gucci signed Thug. Gucci did Freebricks with Future, further catapulting him into fame.
They don't sound like gucci....him doing a cllab with someone is not an influence
Plus all those dudes are ass
I didn't say they sound like him. Influence doesnt have to be about how they rap. Music production, subject matter, etc.
Gucci doesn't produce and Gucci has no subject matter......so where r u finding influence? Did these artists say he influenced them?
Unless your saying just making bragging music about being in the trap as a subject....then ppl been using that outline for years
True. It's debateable but Gucci is recognized as one of the largest figures in Trap Music -
Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Thats not a feelings statement. Couldn't the same be said for you though? You provided your opinion and I provided mine. I would not doubt that some people that voted don't know enough about the artist to say hes wack. I didn't quote or @ anyone when I said that. It was my opinion.
That might be true but homie got like 20+ singles that he was the lead or featured on. Not to mention some of his guest verses on other people's project (Shine Blockas for example).
How is that not enough to form an opinion?
Its enough. His singles don't show everything though. -
Dope McAnd Shine Blockas was dope...
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Wack RapperRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Thats not a feelings statement. Couldn't the same be said for you though? You provided your opinion and I provided mine. I would not doubt that some people that voted don't know enough about the artist to say hes wack. I didn't quote or @ anyone when I said that. It was my opinion.
That might be true but homie got like 20+ singles that he was the lead or featured on. Not to mention some of his guest verses on other people's project (Shine Blockas for example).
How is that not enough to form an opinion?
Its enough. His singles don't show everything though.
Oh it's definitely enough. ? is not exactly the most versatile rapper. -
Dope McRevolver Ocelot wrote: »Thats not a feelings statement. Couldn't the same be said for you though? You provided your opinion and I provided mine. I would not doubt that some people that voted don't know enough about the artist to say hes wack. I didn't quote or @ anyone when I said that. It was my opinion.
That might be true but homie got like 20+ singles that he was the lead or featured on. Not to mention some of his guest verses on other people's project (Shine Blockas for example).
How is that not enough to form an opinion?
Its enough. His singles don't show everything though.
Oh it's definitely enough. ? is not exactly the most versatile rapper.
True to an extent. He expanded his content on Woptober, a little.
